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Favorite of The Magical Half-Dozen? (2C-E, 2C-B, 2C-T-7, 2C-T-2, DOM, Mescaline)

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I have recently being using 2C-E, and was wondering about which one i should try next. also, what is the effectual differences between the 2C's (eg. one more visual than the other, one last longer, etc.) If anyone has tried quite a few of these, a brief description of their experiences would be much appreciated ;)
 
Although all being part of the family, they're all unique in their own special ways.

You're talking about comparing a 2C-x, with a 2C-T-x, with a DOx, and then Mescaline.

Apples to oranges if you ask me. Sure they're all fruit (i.e. belonging to the same larger family), but they're all unique in their special ways.

If you want to compare 2C-x's thats a bit more on path, same with if you wanna compare 2C-T-x's, as well as DOx's to DOx's and so on and so forth.

2C-E is much more of a headtrip and much more intense all around than 2C-B. 2C-B is more of psychedelic candy (although I do believe it to have some depth with it).

2C-E seems to last a bit longer IMO/E, but not by much.

The 2C-T's are notorious for their bodyload. 2C-T-2 especially is known as a puker, but is known to be quite enjoyable if you can get past that.
Out of the two, 2C-T-7 is usually told to be the more visual one although I cannot say from personal experience which is more visual (although I plan on taking 2C-T-7 in the upcoming months as I recieved a small sample not too long ago).

DOM is told to be the best out of all the DOx's. I have been running trials with a lab rat friend of mine who has tried all the other DOx's and has noted that DOM is the most enjoyable out of all of them (with DOC a close runner up he says). I have not taken the DOM yet as I just dont have the time for it, but come summer I will be enjoying quite a few DOM trips! :)
Keep in mind that because the DOx chems are psychedelic amphetamines, they will all last very long.

2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylamphetamine (DOM) I have found typically lasts from 13-19 hours (including come up and after-effect stimulation).

I find mescaline to be a complete puker. Although its a nice headtrip, I just cant get past the bodyload/nausea & vomiting. I feel that it effects me harder than most people though, so I cant really give a good review on it as i'm a bit biased here.

I hope this helped a bit. You might want to check out erowid.org's vaults for each one of these, as well as read a few trip reports there (and here in our TR section) on these chems to get a bit of a better understanding on them.


edit: you might want to check out this thread - Main 2C-X Comparison Thread
 
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I puked when i did 2C-E last..not my favorite psychedelic, i like good mushrooms or acid a lot better.
 
Wasnt your last dosage of 2C-E taken via insufflation? Insufflating chems makes them come up a lot faster, and often causes people to puke due to the intensity. This applies with any drug really. Ive had LSD trip that came on extremely strong and have caused me to vomit.

(Funny though, you say you prefer mushrooms over 2C-E [im assuming the vomiting has something to do with it as you mentioned them together]. Mushrooms tends to make me puke where as the 2C-x drugs tend to leave my stomach alone [for the most part...])
 
I have experimented with 2c-t-2, 2c-e, mescaline, and 2c-t-7.

2c-t-2:
I've used this one three or four times from a single batch/supplier in doses from 18mg to 23mg.
- Trip timing: This one is like a ninja; I don't feel anything but a slight stoning and nausea until four hours in, when it all hits me like a ton of psychedelic bricks. The peak is marked by confusion, visual/auditory hallucinations, and ego dissolution/death.

- Visuals: They aren't too significant until you smoke some cannabis. I've seen a specific effect when a friend hit a bong, the lighter's flame expanded into a horizontal line across my vision, and the air movement caused my brain to feel like it was being compressed through the downstem. This scared me, and led me into a bout of paranoia/confusion. I don't notice any 2c-e like patterning, instead I got mescaline-like geometricization.

- Auditory: Not much sound distortion. During the peak, music is very strongly tied into the experience emotionally and visually. Different rhythms change the trip, it's not easy to explain. When alone in a bathroom with an exhaust fan running, I heard voices that I assumed were my friends/parents/the collective trying to talk to me, but could not see them.

- Mental headfuck is plentiful for me on 2c-t-2. When I start to lose it, the toxic body feeling leads me to believe I am OD'ing. The negative body load was psychosomatic in most cases, and ceased when problems were resolved or I stopped fighting dissolution.

My first mistake I've made on a grand scale with psychedelics came when I took three dime baggies with a little bit of 2c-e, 2c-i, and 2c-t-2 residue in each (my roommate's reasoning was that there was probably enough in the bags for one person to trip. in hindsight, I'd estimate I ate 25mg of each substance at least that day). I poured water into each, dumping it into a glass each time. When all the bags were cleaned, I drank the glass. I've taken large (900mg+) amounts of mescaline in liquid before, and this was an even worse taste. An hour and a half later, I was in a fierce battle for my ego, flying through the various possibilities my life could be in at that moment, and finally gave in to its lesson. I yelled out to my roommate, who came into the bathroom and asked what was happening. I told him I didn't know where I was or what was going on. He told me I had taken a huge dose of some psychedelic, and it'd all be over soon. I asked for a xanax to reduce the effects, and he suggested against it. When I questioned that, he said "Why would you want to abort something that feels this good?", and upon that, the trip changed into an ecstatic forest adventure. Amazing synergy when you take large amounts of everything, haha. For the record, the main peak felt like 2c-e with the amazing confusion of 2c-t-2. The 2c-i did not make its presence known until later on, with amazing stimulation and visual character.

As if I hadn't learnt my lesson, I mixed 23mg 2c-t-2 with 500mg mescaline in an unfamiliar setting in the city, an hour away via train/bus. Time travel was involved (analogue clocks spinning endlessly, digital clocks extremely unreliable), as well as sensory overload on every level. I could see my way around the party as people's faces aged and distorted in front of my eyes, but audio was completely garbled, as glitchy as improperly downloaded music files. I wouldn't recommend doing this. :)

Conclusion: the toxic feeling from 2c-t-2 make it not worthwhile, though otherwise it has great [scary] healing/mystical powers (this one taught me about the collective life force).

2c-t-7:

This one is just uninteresting (to me). I ordered a large quantity and have experimented with doses from 15mg to 45mg.

The first two hours of the trip have me feeling higher than I've ever been (in terms of being 'stoned'). It's not very enjoyable, mostly a 'blah' feeling during which I don't want to move or talk. Just sit and stare. Not that there's any mental aspect to this trip, it's a very blank/spacy headspace. During my 45mg dose, the most prominent aspect to the trip was the extremely vivid CEVs (kaleidoscopic fractals swinging around), intense OEVs (the most intense colours I've ever seen), synaesthesia (I could taste those aforementioned colours), and the overall INTENSITY of the experience. Every few minutes I'd feel some huge CNS surges in the form of stomach butterflies or vertigo.

I never found music to be very integral to the t-7 experience. Nature walks are good, video games are good, TV is boring.

10mg 2c-t-7 (not noticeable on its own) with 1 tab of weak blotter (threshold activity) led to a very synergistic experience that I'd recommend as a good use of 2c-t-7. Smoking a DMT-laced joint at the peak outside overlooking a river led to a very interesting experience, which can only be described by saying nature became a four-dimensional book.
 
Welcome to PD and BL, Beph :)

We don't really allow comparison threads... well, we allow some but only of more obviously related compounds (like the 2C-x thread Thizz linked). These things are so subjective it's hard enough to compare two closely related drugs but with a range of totally different ones like that it's kinda pointless really. Check out Erowid and the PD Index (linky in my sig) for more info, opinion, discussion and trip reports than you could shake a swirlstick at.

Some good descriptions to be starting with here - many more in the Index :)
 
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