The Spiny Pines
Greenlighter
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I've been visiting this forum for a while but have never posted until seeing this thread. I know other have said similar things but it bears repeating. Many of the things people are saying about 25i were said about LSD when it first became used for recreational purposes. The Manson murders were one of the many things used to try to demonize LSD along with countless other violent crimes, suicides, and reported OD's.
I am by no means trying to say that 25i is as safe as LSD, or even necessarily safe at all as so little is known about it, but the few situations in which overdose death resulted solely from 25i consumption all seem to be due to dangerous individuals misrepresenting the 25i or extreme user error and a total lack of judgment i.e. people snorting bumps or even lines of it in powder form when literally a spec is all you need to trip balls. A guy who injected a bunch of LSD in 1977 died (I think it was a little over 300 milligrams). The other 25i overdose deaths I've read about cannot be attributed solely to the 25i as other things had also been ingested. The total number of 25i fatalities I have found from all of these incidents is in the single digits in a day and age where much more gets reported (and sensationalized) then when LSD first hit the scene.
Now of course overdoses not resulting in death have also occurred, but damn near everyone I've read about has also been because a piece of shit vendor misrepresented or mislabeled, or inexperienced and uninformed users taking too much, or hero dosing or other forms of general stupidity that seem to plague many of us lovers of inebriation and which Shuglin warned against many times.
I am certainly no expert on this issue, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I wouldn't recommend psychedelics to most people, and I would never recommend 25i or probably any research chemical to a first time psychedelic user due to the lack of reliable data and the relative ease of obtaining better cherry poppers such as magic mushrooms, but I am of the opinion that if someone is responsible with 25i, they will find it to be a very worthwhile chemical. LSD will always be king, but you can overdo it and it will lose magic. So as with most things, a little variety is nice.
Sorry that was so long, thanks for reading and please be safe.
I am by no means trying to say that 25i is as safe as LSD, or even necessarily safe at all as so little is known about it, but the few situations in which overdose death resulted solely from 25i consumption all seem to be due to dangerous individuals misrepresenting the 25i or extreme user error and a total lack of judgment i.e. people snorting bumps or even lines of it in powder form when literally a spec is all you need to trip balls. A guy who injected a bunch of LSD in 1977 died (I think it was a little over 300 milligrams). The other 25i overdose deaths I've read about cannot be attributed solely to the 25i as other things had also been ingested. The total number of 25i fatalities I have found from all of these incidents is in the single digits in a day and age where much more gets reported (and sensationalized) then when LSD first hit the scene.
Now of course overdoses not resulting in death have also occurred, but damn near everyone I've read about has also been because a piece of shit vendor misrepresented or mislabeled, or inexperienced and uninformed users taking too much, or hero dosing or other forms of general stupidity that seem to plague many of us lovers of inebriation and which Shuglin warned against many times.
I am certainly no expert on this issue, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I wouldn't recommend psychedelics to most people, and I would never recommend 25i or probably any research chemical to a first time psychedelic user due to the lack of reliable data and the relative ease of obtaining better cherry poppers such as magic mushrooms, but I am of the opinion that if someone is responsible with 25i, they will find it to be a very worthwhile chemical. LSD will always be king, but you can overdo it and it will lose magic. So as with most things, a little variety is nice.
Sorry that was so long, thanks for reading and please be safe.
