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Fake or adulterated MDAI and MPA?

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TLDR: Should pure MDAI dissolve completely in a solution of warm water?

Got a delivery yesterday from a reputable vendor of 10g MDAI and 10g MPA. The MPA seems to need about double the amount some others are reporting (50mg feels like a red bull, 100mg like 4 red bulls) in order to have any stimulating effects and has the consistency of cornflour. It does have a slight chemical/caffeeine taste and dissolves completely in water to become clear and non-sticky. In anyone elses experience does this sound like a product they have obtained that is genuine MPA?

My main concern, and I most likely wouldn't have questioned the MPA had it not been for this, regards the MDAI. Had many grams of totally bunk MDAI before so was wary in the first place even with this vendor. The product I was delivered is perhaps just a shade off-white, very fine crystaline but clumpy and slightly shiny. 200mg had almost no effect two hours later, nor did an additional 200mg but 600mg total by the end of the night (yes, I know it was reckless) created the feeling of having taken a pill just before the come up but the come up never came. Slight grinding of teeth and erectile issues did, which didn't marry well with the porn fiending it brought on.

The MDAI does not completely dissolve in solution as I expected it should but rather partially dissolves and flakes of it go into suspension. On top of the extreme dosage needed to produce any effect I saw this as a likely red flag.

This vendors AMT and 4-MEO-PCP products were excellent on previous purchases, and active at widely described dosages. Their customer service is usually good and I intend to approach them about this. Before I do though, knowing for sure that MDAI is or is not totally water soluble would help on stating my case.

Thanks for any constructive input. Obviously I do not advise or condone taking any RC that does not seem to conform to the expected product in the manner I did. I did so as it seemed most likely to me that the product was MDAI but severely cut with an inactive substance though that is a very poor reason I know.

EDIT: Having just tried to dissolve the product sold as MDAI again, it may not be water soluble at all but just go into suspension.
 
Yeah the MPA sounds about right.. some people don't get much affects from it.. i like it but take more than 100mg per dose.

MDAI is also such a subtle drug some people don't (realise they have or) get the affects some others do..

Have you tried either drug from a different vendor?
 
Tan MDAI was the first I tried, before the UK cathinone ban and found it to combine well with Methylone. After the cathinone ban tried grams of white supposed MDAI from four different vendors between now and then and found all to be more or less inactive. That very much put me off and made me wary of buying any substance sold as MDAI but the vendor I dealt with has always been spot on in the past.

After having read trip reports on MDAI all day now I think they were most likely spot on in this case as well. Did see a lot of reports recently of people praising new batches to the rafters when mixed with MPA but didn't work out like that for me. From what I've read it can be a very variable experience and that seems to be a characteristic of the chemical as well as different batches.

Thanks for your reply!
 
Sounds like the tan MDAI wasn't MDAI.. ;)

Yeah i found MDAI mixed with MPA to be quite rushy and much more intoxicating that either one taken alone.
 
Think part of the problem may have been that I took the MPA first over an hour before the MDAI so I'd have opened the dopamine floodgates too early for the drugs to really synergise. On re-dosing the MPA I don't imagine there was as much dopamine being released as when taken initially.

Having spent the better part of the day reading trip reports of MDAI I'm now pretty sure the product is indeed legit. It's also widely described as being quite insoluble in water so that tallies with my observations.

Some recent reports of a very MDMA like high from the MDAI/MPA combination got me quite excited so I think my reaction to the experience was a matter of my expectations being too high. It's possible there is a superior batch doing the rounds too I guess. Will certainly be investigating further.
 
The white crystal MDAI seems to be purer than the brown one. I had a bad experienced from MPA+MDAI combo from a monumental dose (see TR if interested), however, this week end i had 3 vodka red bull + 150 mg MDAI bombed + 50 mg MDAI mixed with drink and had a very pleasant evening (nothing crazy but a very pleasant evening), no comedown so far...
Note: i am quite experienced with MDMA and analogs
 
We don't allow "what did I take" or Substance ID threads here any longer.

Extra time, feel free to make another trip report about your experiences this weekend, but we don't allow life trip reports.

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