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fact/fiction? "percent purity"

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Often times you'll hear someone try to tell you "this stuff is X% pure"...what are the chances they actually know how pure the mdma is? In this scenario assume it is tested and is in fact mdma. I hear it all the time around me and is suspect it's a bunch of drug dealer BS but some of these sources do in fact personally know the manufacturers personally and are close but still, I'm skeptical. What do you guys think? Do people talk about how "pure" their molly using percentages around you? sounds like some crap to me but who knows maybe it's possible with every batch theyre told or shown the purity?

Also for those in the know what is the science behind actually testing mdma to determine purity?
 
Well in EU there are a number of places that are legally a loud to test samples and give back a percentage as far as purity goes. That's actually illegal in the US I believe. Chances are your dealer doesn't have a GCMS though or any other expensive analytic equipment for that matter so unless he is able present you with a read out I'd dismiss it as BS.
 
If you bought your drugs at street level, youll have to wash your drugs yourself to get any real estimation of purity percentage, and even that would be an estimation. Labs with equipment sensitive and accurate enough to determine actual percentages are not exactly common occurences in this game. Percentage is dealer lingo for the most part.

The most reliable way to know youre getting "purer" drugs is to find one of those rare drug connections that strictly mess with the good shit, and reliably come through with the bomb. Youll have much more peace of mind knowing your drug trip is probably going to be awesome by default, rather than know I got an 80% E pill.

Personally I find speedy pill rolls much better than plain molly, even though the molly probably contains a much higher % of actual MDMA. If you wanted to give me molly, Id literally ask if you have some cut with anything speedy first before I took it.
 
Even in the EU I'd take it as BS. All dealers are wrong until proven right, IMO.


Do what you do with every drug, buy a small amount to reagent test and if it looks good take a small dose to gauge potency. If it seems on par, get a larger amount




Besides, even the chemist who made it doesn't have a GC/MS so he can't truly know how pure it is to begin with
 
Unless the 'molly' has been tested at an analytical chemistry lab and there is a fuckin report they can show you, consider it bullshit.
 
You could also run TLC, really easy and if there are any major adulterents they'll spot.
 
This wasn't really about my source I was just using my situation as an example. my gear is tested

I was more wondering if anyone gets a hold of stuff that is tested for purity. because I hear these percentages thrown around all the time and know that it is almost always bs. But I guess if you're in the right circle you might actually know how pure your mdma is
 
I have gotten stuff in the past from a place where they say the percent purity and its usually spot on... I mean if buying normally on the street your not gonna get reliable numbers, people will fluff up their product with the whole " 96% pure shit my dude" bullshit.
 
Hiltoniano said:
I have gotten stuff in the past from a place where they say the percent purity and its usually spot on... I mean if buying normally on the street your not gonna get reliable numbers, people will fluff up their product with the whole " 96% pure shit my dude" bullshit.
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Spot on? I didn't know it was so easy to tell the difference between 70% and 80%


I mean really.. sure, some dealers can have their product tested... but when it comes back at 60% pure do you think you're going to hear about that or do you think that perhaps they might lie to you to try and make their money back?

When you're dealing kilos at a time it only takes a 5-10% cut to make a few extra thousand dollars
 
Most likely they'd have it tested to see how much they could get away with cutting it.....
 
MDMA can't be more than 84%
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One Thousand Words said:
If they are that close to the manufacturer I would be asking why they are given cut product in the first place?
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It's common for many chemists themselves to cut the drugs, as I said even just a 5-10% cut can make hundreds of thousands of extra dollars over time. It's not like anyone can notice a 5% cut either, hell even a 20% cut most inexperienced users wouldn't be able to tell. A 150mg dose would be 120mg still, plenty to get you rolling. It's easy to blame a weaker high on things like a full stomach, tolerance or a bad environment. Most people around here take 2 capsules of "molly" for a roll, if that was the pure 200mg I'm sure they'd get much higher than they anticipated.

I'd say here in the US they cut it down to a potency that is more suitable for dosing, while places like the Netherlands where testing centers are available they add small enough amounts that it could be passed off as just synth impurities. Even with that tiny amount though, when you're moving thousands of kilos like that recent operation that was busted we're talking about some MAJOR money.





also let's not forget that we've seen MDMA re-rocked with cuts like MSM the way methamphetamine is. It's almost certainly the chemist, or at least someone with knowledge of chemistry, doing that.
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I would take anything your drug dealer tells you with a grain of salt unless they can provide specific lab analysis' (GC/MS).
 
"There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."--Mark Twain.

As for me, when buying a new unknown drug from a dealer, I'm more likely to ask, "Is it good?," rather than, "Is it pure?"
 
It's extremely unlikely that they know.
More established dealers higher up the chain has a bigger chance of knowing, usually when they deal in kilos.
If you're talking about a street level dealer slanging grams at a time 99% of them are full of shit.
Testing for purity takes advanced lab equipment, a reagent can test for presence but can't be used accurately for purity.
Sure if your reagent turns black instantly and bubbles off of a tiny amount you can guess its of good purity
 
^ even someone dealing kilos probably wouldn't know. It's not like they're going to spend 50,000 to get a home GC/MS machine lmao.



They might know whether it's been adulterated before it got to them but even then they're just trusting what another person says. If someone says an exact % number, chances are they pulled it out of their ass.

EZ Test is designing an MDMA purity test, but the one's they have for cocaine and heroin aren't very reliable...
 
OP: when somebody tells you a percentage they are totally full of shit. They would have to know what all of the impurities actually are (not just that they are there) which would involve some serious purification systems that cost 100's K then they would need to have the knowledge of a PhD scientist to characterize what these impurities actually are. Then they could give you a % accurately.

Also, you cannot get the % with a GC-MS because the GC-MS isn't going to prove to you or tell you what the impurities are...its just going to tell you they are there but you need to know the molecular mass and/or structure of the impurities which a GC-MS might let you guess what they are but isn't going to prove anything, you would also need an NMR (500k-1M$) an HPLC (-300K) and a PhD (free).
 
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