"'F' is the New 'H'": The appearance of fentanyl (analogues) in the Seattle area

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"'F' is the New 'H'": The appearance of fentanyl (analogues) in the Seattle area

This is a rather long but interesting article that came out last month in a local mag that discusses "fentanyl" powder that has been circulating recently in the Seattle area, but has not yet appeared on any official radar screen.

It is interesting because it offers anecdotal insight into its effects, which most likely spring from the work of an underground chemist synthing an analogue. Users describe feeling "energized" when high. I have usually heard fentanyl from diverted medical stockpiles described as "sedating" in effect. Might this be an effect specific to a particular analogue? Anyone have any further info on this phenomenon?

Brian is a rock musician who moved to Seattle about a year ago from a small town in the South. "I was straight-edge for a long time growing up, and there wasn't much down there," he says. "Just small-town potheads and some guys doing meth in a shack somewhere." His most intense drug experiences involved beer and marijuana.

Within months of moving, he was in a popular underground band. John, also in the band and one of Brian's roommates, brought a lot of drugs into their place—pot, pills, cocaine.

"One night, we're hanging out and—typical John—he brings out this white powder and asks me if I want some," Brian remembers. "He doesn't tell me what it is at all. We're freebasing—he pours the powder on some foil, gives me the straw, and lights it up. And I'm like, 'This is fucking awesome!' I just felt so good, so light, just so relaxed. And I ask him: 'What is this?' 'Fentanyl.' 'Oh, what's that?' 'It's heroin.'"
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continued... http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/f-is-the-new-h/Content?oid=7081932
 
Additionally, here's another article from the mid '80s about the spate of designer fentanyl analogues, notably 3-methylfentanyl, that appeared in California. Interesting in that the description of the profile of the intoxication is similar. Excerpted:
Alan Wilks, who has been using fentanyl variants for the last year, said the "rush" is more intense than that of heroin, the high lasts longer and the drug does not leave him lethargic. When he shoots heroin he wants to "space out," he said; when he uses a designer drug he "feels like overhauling a car."

Because the drug leaves users feeling energetic, many "speed freaks" (amphetamine users) now also use fentanyl variants, said William Ayres, a research analyst for the Institute for Scientific Analysis in San Francisco.
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http://articles.latimes.com/1985-04-05/news/mn-27165_1_designer-drug
 
I dont know about you guys but when i get fent bags im fuckin pissed
 
That's the beauty of designer analogues, they can be made to increase drastically the duration. Like it implies in the LA Times article, it can last even longer than heroin.
 
Everlasting Reign said:
That's the beauty of designer analogues, they can be made to increase drastically the duration. Like it implies in the LA Times article, it can last even longer than heroin.
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some analogues may last longer, but pharmaceutical fentanyl and whatever random analogues I've come across in bags are all short lived.
 
Thats a really well written article -- Great find. Thought this part of the article was pretty sweet,


Fentanyl's official—if not always legal—use extends from the medical to the military. It has been tested, and occasionally used, as an agent of chemical warfare.

In 2002, Chechen Islamic separatists stormed a large theater in Moscow that was showing a production of the popular musical Nord-Ost. Around 50 heavily armed Chechens, some with explosives strapped to their bodies, took around 850 people hostage, including the cast and crew, and demanded that the Russian military abdicate Chechnya or hostages would start dying. After three days of standoff and negotiation, Russian soldiers blasted a mystery gas through the theater's ventilation system, incapacitating the rebels and the hostages, and then raided the building. The mission was not entirely successful. Between 115 and 200 of the hostages died—depending on whose numbers you believe—but only one, according to Dr. Andrei Selt- sovsky, chair of the Moscow health committee, died from gunshot wounds. The other 114 to 199—including 17 cast members of Nord-Ost, two of them child actors—were killed by the gas.

The Russian government tried to keep the chemical composition of the gas secret: Doctors on the scene complained that they could not treat hostages because police wouldn't tell them what they'd been gassed with. But four days later, Health Minister Yuri Shevchenko announced that the gas was a derivative of fentanyl. (For the chemists among you, it's widely believed—but has never been confirmed—that the Russian gas was Kolokol-1, which contains 3-methylfentanyl. That's a derivative of fentanyl that's more commonly made in clandestine labs and sold for recreational use than regular pharmaceutical fentanyl. In other words, the type of fentanyl you're buying on the street is probably the same type used by the Russian military.)
 
lots of people OD on this crap thinking it is heroin.... that is the only problem i see with this drug... if your going to sell fen than by all means fucking tell people what it is so people do not OD
 
Wait a minute. Isn't Fentanyl something like 100 times as potent as Morphine? And by extension much more potent weight for weight than heroin?

Doesn't this cause a load of potential issues like overdose owing to the significantly higher drug potency? I'm sure if someone took an amount of Fentanyl equivalent to the amount they would do for heroin, this wouldn't end well surely, wouldn't that lead to a fatal overdose?

Is this actually sold as Heroin? Or do the dealers sell it as Fentanyl? Or a heroin/Fentanyl mix. This is scary stuff - yet more reason why drugs should be legalised. I wouldn't like to think of the number of deaths this has the potential to cause.

Sorry if any of this post is inaccurate - I don't know a huge amount about opiates, other than the fact that Fentanyl is far more potent than heroin.
 
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Due to its potency and skill required to cut it properly, it can be deadly. Look into the 2006 fentanyl deaths.


Article starts out a bit slow, but gets a little better. Other than the premise, that there's a fent analog going around the Seattle area, and it might have been for a while, there's nothing really new. They should have talked to law enforcement, dealers, hr workers -not just users. And they should have had a sample analyzed, to see exactly what's in it and how cut it is.
 
I've recently been educating myself about the RC marketplace and found a few opiate agonists that fall into this legal grey area. One drug in particular, and I know I'm not spelling this correctly, "Bromadol" or however it's spelled is one of these ultra potent Fentanyl analogues, and supposedly one of the most potent in the bunch. Is there anyway for one to use this drug in a safe manner?
 
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