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F*ck depression medication

But you use recreational drugs, right? How is that any less "artificial"?
I'm not criticising you or anything, but dismissing drugs as artificial experiences struck me as odd coming from someone on this board :)
--- G.
 
Well, I see everyone has an opnion. This is a good thing! I agree that many Doc's are pushing the SSRI's to some ppl who would benefit more from some TLC. It would be nice if the path was clear cut. If you need them take them. I know my "shrink" has no plan for getting me off of my med. That stinks. I'm in the process of planning my own withdrawl from the med. Otherwise......make an appt.......and please pay.Please and thanx, Bogie
 
Originally posted by Denial:
id rather be naturally depressed than artificially happy.

I'm sorry you haven't had a good effect from SSRIs - as I said above, my experience is the opposite.
Also, for me, depression isn't about being sad. It's about feeling nothing. Not wanting to get out of bed. Not wanting to do anything. Not believing in anything. Not having any sort of good opinion of myself. Indeed, feeling that people hated me, or were plotting against me. But not feeling sad, as such.
And those weren't real feelings (e.g., several of the people who I thought hated me, actually like and respect me). In other words, what I experience as 'natural' is wrong, and unreal. What I experience while on SSRIs is closer to reality.
Anyway, different people, different experiences, and we don't really know why. I hope you find your answer some other way :)
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Originally posted by Denial:
id rather be naturally depressed than artificially happy.
Nah, not me. I pretty much prefer to be on efexor (225mg/day) and valium (3 x 10mg tabs/day). At least i can now even enjoy my life a bit.
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Simon: quite a vivid description of clinical depression, you're spot on. I just couldn't articulate it nearly as well :)
--- G.
 
There is more suicide and depression today that there ever has been in the past. Drugs are the cheapest and one of the most effective methods of conbating this death toll. Sure itd be nice for more therapy techniques to be used, if u use therapy AND drugs, u get better results - But unfortunatley we live in a capatalist society and money is a big issue in dealing with social problems. If uv got a problem with over prescription of medicine, then call ur local politician and demand more funding for free pscyhotherapy. If healthcare and psychotherapy were both public services, ud see less meds. As they are industries, like every1 else they have to work inside of the constraints of money.
People say, why are there so many stressed people now when there were higher fatality in the past?
Well you in part have a point, the media makes us fearful of many things which bear little or low actual danger , for e.g. marijuana. Its true that people as a whole need to get a grip. However, social stessors, such as verbal or physical abuse by a peer, judgement by ur peers, being obligated to marry, have kids, work the job u dont like - these stressors have a bigger and longer lasting psychological impact than threat of fatality does, mainly because they are persistant and consistant - and because the human brain is geared strongly to respond to social pressures. U wont see a veitman vet complain about how scared he was for his life - peeps get over that - ull see them talk about others who died - the greif of loss of loved ones. Thats because personal fear of death isnt the most overwhelming form of suffering - there are many others far greater.
Another thing u miss on this point is that depression is most definately partly chemical. The chemicals in ur brain, make u beleive the things u do when depressed - those self-delusions which previous posters have described. Its not a mental trick people are just playing with themselves, it has a physical basis. Thats why they call depression a disease these days.
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Originally posted by Simon:
Yeah, Jerry, I think you've confused the attitude Emily was criticising with the attitude she holds herself.
I was just quoting her response to provide context, I wasn't saying Emily herself was holding that attitude. Sorry for the mixup. I agree, though.
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"Religion is the opiate of the masses." People misinterpret this quote too much. What it means is, the world is so shitty people go to religion as a painkiller. Perhaps with religion losing its grip or ability to soothe the pain, more people are going to actual drugs.
 
Depression and the like can be a serious illness for many people. For someone who has a chemical imbalance (like myself) shouldn't we be able to take medication to correct it without people telling us to 'snap out of it'? We can't....
If someone you knew had cancer, should they be denied medication for their illness? No, and neither should we for our illness.
Please, to those with negative views, don't pass judgement.
 
I'm not downplaying the severity of depression but it is common knowledge that anti-depressants (especially in America) are terribly over prescribed. Don't blame those that suffer from it though, blame the half assed shrink that puts them on the medication. Sure, a smart individual could figure out for themselves that perhaps they should try other things first but the norm is "the doctor told me to, I better do it."
 
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