Ez-test extreme - questions

[chupa chopped]

My friend recently got an ez-test extreme and we were really keen to test it out on some pills that didn't come up on e1 and e2.
The simon's and robadope will react with any primary or secondary amine, i.e. robadope will react red with a solution of methylamine...yes?
So does ketamine (having a secondary amine) react with simon's?
We got these pills that are definately active but didn't test up on e1, e2, simon's or robadope
pink hearts - active
Shock horror that people said there was K in them even after they didn't test up on e2 or simon's! I knew it wasn't K when I ate it.
I was expecting whatever was in it to have some sort of primary or secondary nitrogen. So I guess it's got a tertiary nitrogen or none at all??? What the hell was this stuff!

 

[chupa chopped]

test kit summary
This website has a summary of what testers test for what....
And they've got down that Ketamine doesn't test up on simon's.
Also they say that the Mecke tests up for MDMA but not MDEA. Is this true? They don't mention MDA.

 

[johnboy]

i'll try and chase up the more technical bits of this in a while, but i'll answer one bit now. No reagent test can differentiate between MDMA and MDEA, so I can only assume that the lack of a tick in the Mecke column is a typo.

 

[chupa chopped]

thanks johnboy---there's not much info on the web about the testers.

 

[johnboy]

there's a fair bit in this forum if you wade thru it. unfortunately there isn't a great deal about Simon's and Robadope, as they are relativly new...