Eyeball Dose DMT

[princessxxleah]

Hi

I just extracted a batch of DMT using Q21Q21s tek2. I have my fluffy white crystals but I don't have a scale that measures mgs. Can I eyeball a dose or is it better to wait to get a scale?

Also, is 30 to 50 mg still the recommended dose?

And finally, if I smoked it by myself will I be able to put the pipe down without burning myself or dropping the pipe when I hit tjat realm.

 

[psood0nym]

You can start with eyeballing an amount you know is too small and just work your way up stepwise from there. DMT isn't physiologically dangerous if you're young and healthy so eyeballing is mostly just a psychological risk. That said, a scale that'll do a reasonable job of accurately weighing a dose can be bought for under $40 and you may be able to overnight it if you're in a hurry. 30 - 50 mg is a good starting dose, yes. Whether you'll be able to keep the pipe from flying out of your hands or burning yourself in the few seconds it'll take you to accelerate beyond ego orbit isn't something that we can tell you for sure, though.

 

[《Plasticity》]

It is reccomended you buy at least a cheap 25$ scale from amazon not only for the DMT but for any chems you plan on ingesting in the future. With that said I tend to eyeball DMT sometimes and do so succesfully but that's because I know what 50mgs looks like give or take. For your first dose I'd go with 20-30 mgs to get a feel for the substance but if you want a breakthrough dose your first time go ahead and dose 50mgs. I have a scoop that measures 40-50 mgs but before I had that I would use the tip of a butter knife. Since you don't have an idea of what 30-50mgs will look like I second psoodonyms' suggestion of starting at what looks like a low dose and work your way up. The good thing about DMT is that tolerance doesn't really build much for me and I can burn through a couple hundred milligrams in a session getting the same results from each dose. As I'm sure you know DMT can destroy you at high doses so work your way up at a comfortable pace, good luck and have fun in hyperspace

PS If your trying to break through it sometimes helps to have a trip sitter to coach you because after the first one or two hits you basically lose motor control and may need to be reminded to take that final hit.

 

[princessxxleah]

As I'm sure you know DMT can destroy you at high doses so work your way up at a comfortable pace.[/QUOTE]

What do u mean?

 

[《Plasticity》]

What do you mean?

DMT is no joke, it's capable of extremely intense and sometimes overwhelming experiences that may change the way you look at the world, sometimes permanently. If you don't approach DMT with caution you can easily be shaken up. Physically though it's pretty harmless and easy on the body.

 

[sekio]

Eyeballing DMT is a good way to end up bitch slapped rather hard with a psychedelic tidal wave. A difference of 10-20mg can be the difference between a good trip and being confused and scared for an hour.

 

[GreenMachine]

Eyeballing DMT is a good way to end up bitch slapped rather hard with a psychedelic tidal wave. A difference of 10-20mg can be the difference between a good trip and being confused and scared for an hour.

eh, in all fairness i think if you are venturing into DMT-land, you should half expect the possibility of that happening anyways man.

i always eyeball my DMT. start super small and work your way up. if you extracted it i assume you have a good bit so i say go for it. if you are particularly sensitive to psychs or tryptamines than maybe it should be saved til you can get a mg scale.

 

[Black]

i always eyeball my DMT. start super small and work your way up.

same here. and good advice.

i started out with a few crystals, but now i just eyeball dmt for 2 people or so and put them into the pipe. when smoking you pretty much know if you need more after exhaling and getting the pipe back from your friend(s). i've never had a problem when there was more dmt in the pipe than needed. it of course depends on your smoking device, your capability to stomach the harsh dmt vapor and your lung capacity, but generally i have always found the whole thing limited rather by the process than the amount inside. for my pipe most people agree that one hit gets you high, two hits have you tripping hard and 3-4 send you to hyperspace. i imagine it's a whole lot different if you use a bong or the machine though...
anyway, if you're new to it it's certainly the best to start low and work your way up. that way you gradually get to know the effects, learn to adjust your dose and learn the smoking technique (that can be tricky at first), ...

for not dropping the pipe i recommend putting it down after each toke (you should generally hold it in for a good while and the effects normally start in full force when you exhale), putting the pipe down before you lean back and putting the pipe down instantly when you hear the crackling of tearing plastic.

 

[Contained]

I'm a big "numbers" guy when it comes to psychedelics, as in I'm very careful to accurately weigh out my doses. The only exception to my rule is dmt. In my opinion, I feel like dmt will bring you wherever "it" needs to and weighing out the doses (to me) is in a way trying to control the experience.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

We should just have a blanket ban on asking if eyeballing a dose is ok, its so fucking annoying getting fucktards comming on here asking if its ok to eyeball a fucking dose.

No don't eyeball your dose, stop being a friggin tight ass and get some fucking scales.

Sooooo not necessary dude
I mean other psychedelics sure it's potentially dangerous to not eyeball doses but I personally have never been able to breakthrough off of one toke anyway, usually takes at least 2-3 so measuring seems unecessary when I can control my intake simply by knowing how much I'm inhaling.
And on another note many people take dmt to become virtually incapacitated by the experience which would make weighing your doses irrelevant imo

 

[Transform]

We don't have a a blanket ban on eyeballing (though IMHO it is highly inadvisable for any substance) but the BLUA does require members to be civil to each other. Please bear this in mind.

Yes OP, you can eyeball DMT as it is not physically dangerous but there are SO SO many reasons not to make a habit of this behaviour. Personally I would wait until I had a scale on principle.

If nothing else it will allow you to teach yourself the value of proper preparation - this is certainly something you should have considered beforehand!

Edit: On second thoughts, I have removed the post.
We welcome discussion, debate and disagreement but if one cannot make their point in a civil and friendly manner then we would rather it was not made at all. Such attitudes will not be tolerated in PD.

 

[Broseph Smith]

I often will have quite a bit of DMT left in the "machine" after I have used it several times. On more than one occasion I just hit the "leftovers" and have had some intense trips. I always weighed my doses out exactly when I first tried DMT, starting with 30mg and working my way up.

Now I eyeball each dose as I have an idea of what 50mg looks like, but mosty because I am aware that even with the fresh dose I will also still have all sorts of oil that is left from previous trips and thus I will never be able to know exactly how much is in the machine.

In my experience, and my experiences is all I can speak for, DMT comes on fast and thus I may take only two hits before I blast off but sometimes three. Never one hit, never four hits. Usually 2, sometimes 3. I feel it is because DMT will blast you off quick and when ready. In other words, I maybe will load 50mg but only smoke 30mg and blast off safely and leave 20mg that may be combined with a later dose of 50mg making a total of 70mg (equivalent). When I hit the 70mg equivalent I may not use all that either because I breakthrough before I can finish the product in the machine.

In my experience and from personal use, the exact measuring of it is not critical, especially if you want to breakthrough after you have experience with lighter doses. But if you are not wanting to breakthrough or are trying for the first time I would also strongly suggest weighing it out and starting with smaller doses. But it won't kill you if you eyeball it and get a little more than intended.

 

[Solipsis]

Eyeballing DMT is a good way to end up bitch slapped rather hard with a psychedelic tidal wave. A difference of 10-20mg can be the difference between a good trip and being confused and scared for an hour.

Agreed, buy a scale - they don't have to be much more than 30$ That will give you a potentially instable one with a papier-mache outside but you should be able to measure DMT with it, just don't weigh DOX compounds with it or something. Check out our scale thread:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=348436

If you can afford buying extraction materials then you can afford the scale.

 

[MrSpeedyG]

Transform you are right I apologise for my response to the thread, it was in no way appropriate. I am just personally sick of people asking if eye balling their dose is OK. If you have to ask yourself that question, then go get some scales. In the interest of harm reduction, scales should be in possession of anyone who needs to measure out doses.

 

[Solipsis]

To err is human, that goes for you but also for people who fool themselves. For example by downplaying potential consequences of eyeballing drugs and emphasizing on the instances where people have done it and gotten away with it via selective perception. People are smart and they have urges, that smartness can be used against yourself to try and get what you want the easiest way.
Anyway you are still right from a harm reduction point of view that scales are imperative when it comes to potent drugs that have not been cut to shit and meant for an audience who will rucksichtlos snort the powder until they get high. But you will never convince someone of such wisdom if you are abrasive about it. There are probably sayings along those lines in every language but I can't be bothered to find and mention one. ;P

 

[Transform]

Just to add that you can get a set of 0.001g scales from ebay for $10/£6.50 now, and they're as good as any sub $50 set of scales.