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eye wiggles

Alright, I don't live with my parents so asking mommy to pick me up is not and option!
I don't find stimulants such as coke & Ecstasy (NOT MDA) to impair motor skills!

Yeah, sure DUI is against the law but guess what?
So is popping tabs, there is a risk factor in almost every single thing you do.

I was waiting for your reply on that which is why I stated "Feel free to talk shit about DUI!"
 
They affect reaction speed and control. I don't get my mum to pick me up -- I get a lift with others (who haven't been taking drugs) or use public transport.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14714102

Effects of MDMA (ecstasy), and multiple drugs use on (simulated) driving performance and traffic safety.

Brookhuis KA, de Waard D, Samyn N.

Department of Psychology, University of Groningen, Grote Kruisstraat 2/1, 9712 TS Groningen, The Netherlands. [email protected]

RATIONALE: The effects of MDMA on driving behaviour are not clear, since the direct effects of MDMA on cognitive performance are reported as not generally negative. OBJECTIVES: To assess in an advanced driving simulator acute effects on simulated driving behaviour and heart rate of MDMA, and effects of polydrug use. METHODS: A group of young participants who had indicated that they regularly used MDMA were asked to complete test rides in an advanced driving simulator, shortly after the use of MDMA, just before going to a party. They were tested again after having visited the "rave", while they were under the influence of MDMA and a number of different other active drugs. Participants were also tested sober, at a comparable time at night. Separately, a control group of participants was included in the experiment. RESULTS: Driving performance in the sense of lateral and longitudinal vehicle control was not greatly affected after MDMA, but deteriorated after multiple drug use. The most striking result was the apparent decreased sense for risk taking, both after MDMA and after multiple drug use. This was clear from gap acceptance data, while the ultimate indicator of unsafe driving, accident involvement or even causation, was increased by 100% and 150%, respectively. CONCLUSIONS: Driving under the influence of MDMA alone is certainly not safe; however, driving back (home) after a dance party ("rave") where MDMA users regularly combine MDMA with a host of other drugs can be described as extremely dangerous.
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see also http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...ve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11714155

There are ALWAYS alternatives to driving. As I've said, public transport and getting a lift with friends.

Sure taking drugs is illegal, but whats the risk difference between that and driving? Thousands of people are killed every year driving under the influence of illicit drugs. Only a few die from MDMA consumption (if that), and thats just in NSW (Australia). I imagine the risk factor certain increases by at least 100x, and thats just to yourself.

Much of the argument on the legalisation/decriminalisation of drugs hinges on the fact that its only yourself you're impacting upon -- the criminal law is designed (primarily) to stop you inflicting harm upon others. By driving under the influence of drugs, you're crossing that line, and so I believe should attract the full penalty of the criminal law.
 
^I really don't want to argue with you you deffinetely are right that driving under the influence is dangerous but for me there are no other options as everyone I party with is very 'open minded'!

Safe Rolling PPL!
 
About driving under the influence: EVERYONE HERE HAS DONE IT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. Sure, it's not safe, but sometimes you HAVE to drive somewhere, and the only person who can get you to your destination is YOU.

I'm not condoning DUI; I'm just playing the devil's advocate here for a sec and pointing out that 99.9% of the people on this board who go to parties, do e and have to drive home afterwards don't always have a designated driver to get them home safely -- nor do you always have a place to sleep afterwards while you're still coming down.
 
I can't do them, if I can it is very minor and only occurs when my eyes are moving very fast to keep up with the action.
I have a friend who can make his eyes whip back and forth and get eye wiggles anytime he wants, it's genetic. He does it sometimes when we are rolling and it freaks us out.
 
i can make my eyes wiggle while sober too, but my eye sight gets blurry. i can't do it with focused eyes. when rolling everything is still nicely crisp but all the lights get zig zaggy...absolutely wonderful.
 
AlphaNumeric said:
I was once completely battered and I wanted to send someone a text so badly I went up to someone who looked less fucked than me and asked if they'd be nice enough to allow me to dictate a text message that they'd type into my phone for me and send it to the right person.

They were happy to :D
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I love eye wiggles. And yes, i've done the old "dictate this sms for me please" haha
 
if i have a low does of mdma, i get nothing just a nice euphoria, if i get a medium dose i get eye wiggles which feel so fucking good!! if i have a high dose my eyes just go to the back of my head which feels even better but can be embarrassing in public places as how fucked up i look.
 
eye wiggles can be pretty fun, only ever had them on pure mdma and i have to be quite messy for them to happen.. objects in the room when my eyes squinted just shaking about rapidly.
 
dentuk said:
eye wiggles can be pretty fun, only ever had them on pure mdma and i have to be quite messy for them to happen.. objects in the room when my eyes squinted just shaking about rapidly.
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i have eye wiggles every time i roll. i don't see everything shaking though, it just starts to blur when the eye wiggles start. i've even had sore eye muscles after rolling :)
it's also fun to look at the night sky while rolling. as you can't keep one star in focus for long, the stars jump around a lot. that usually makes me laugh my ass off. i can't wait to roll again =D
 
i thought this thread sounded familiar.. It wasn't untill I read the entire thing that i realized its from 4 years ago!!!
 
Haha, oh the memorieeesss

Eye wiggles/rolls can be piss annoying whe ntrying to text or concentrate
but i find theyre generally controllable unless a super high MDMA dose :)
 
mmmmmm... eye wiggles are the best. :) I don't get them every time, but I know I'm FUCKED UP when I do! LOL

Although this last time I had really blurry vision when I woke up after sleeping for about 5 hours n it kinda freaked me out. It lasted for about 2 hrs after I woke up. Anyone else have that happen before?
 
I now take magnesium (2 caps x 250) everytime I roll. Not only do I not get any jaw grinding but I get reduced or almost no eye wiggles. If there is anyone who doesn't like the blurred vision part of rolling I would suggest taking magnesium as it reduces both the clenching and wiggles A LOT and sometimes to virtually nil (however, pupils are still large)
 
The only time i get this is when im rolling balls, that uncontrolable powerful roll that rarely ever happens, and when it does happen I know it for sure. My eyes roll back everytime I roll but I can very easily control that one.
 
Eye wiggles are great while ravin like a fool! except they absolutely blow when you're trying to text someone or cut up a line of molly.... verrrry difficult for me to do hahah
 
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