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Eye wiggle questions.

Delta, I took 30 mg. of d-amp throughout the day. I rolled the same night on these mitzu's. I originally thought these pills were mda. Someone tested them and said that the simons turned cobalt and that meant these were mdma. Anyway I took four more of these last night, and they were not near as trippy as the first time. The first roll off these was incredibly tripped out. Hallucinations and all the goods that mda brings to the table. Last night on these was the complete opposite. It was filled with euphoria, and just felt like a classic mdma experience. It is pretty weird, I think.
 
As you can see, identifying mdma specifically with only a simon's reagent isn't possible, but the color you described is consistant with an mdxx substance, and from what you've described, I'm leaning towards mda.
It actually sounds like a pretty typical 2 night experience, nothing weird about it. Tolerance to mdxx substances builds pretty rapidly. In as little as a 2 day binge, the entire 2cd experince can be brought down hard. I've had many experiences taking pills 2 days in a row, and I know I've definately done so with mda, at this point, it isn't difficult to tell the difference between the 2 for me. What you described sounds pretty typical.
I haven't messed with dextro-amphetamine in years, and my knowledge is somewhat limited, but 30mg is a moderate dose, and since amphetamines and stimulants are the most common cuts in pressed ecstacy pills, it's safe to safe there was also some extra speed in there.
Just out of curiosity, what brand of dex did you take, because apparently, certain tablets ,arked 30mg, are actually 22mg.(See here under "formulations".)
 
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Delta, actually they were 10mg tablets, the blue ones. My friend told me it was the generic for adderall. Also, the first time I rolled on these mitsu's was three weeks ago, today. I just popped an additional four last night.

I can easily tell the difference between mdma and mda also. Its just people on pillreports are claiming these were mdma. Its weird because last night it felt like mdma, but Ive been taking 5htp. I dont know if this would make much of a difference. Three weeks ago these felt like a full blown mda trip.

Although last night I was looking at this star when I was in the middle of my peak. The star began to morph into all sorts of weird things like a form of a human being dancing in the sky. It also began to change colors and at that point I knew I was peeled, obviously.

Maybe the awesome euphoria I experienced last night was a result of the 5htp?
 
Oh, sorry, I though you took them 2 days in a row. Kinda changes things.
Well, mdma has also certainly been known to cause hallucinations in higher doses, and it's definately plausible that 4 pills would contain such a dose.
5-htp only *in theory* replenishes seratonin, there is no "proof" in the literral sense, but I happen to believe it works and I take it daily.
3 weeks is enough time for a small group of people to fully restock on seratonin. From what I've gathered, it varies from anywhere to 2 weeks(very rare), to 2 months(also rare). It's safe to say the majority are right around the 1 month mark. Supplementing with 5-htp certainly increases your chances of being one of those people in the smaller numbers.
As I'm sure your aware pillreports is by no means a sure thing, an unfortunately, neither are testing reagents, although I swear by them. Anyway, my point is neither one of us will ever no for sure what it was you ate, but I'd feel comfortable betting on mdxx.
 
^I agree that it was most likely MDMA that was consumed. I have had full-blown hallucinations (colored translucent orbs of brightly colored lights flying out of the speakers across the dance floor) from soley MDMA; but I have not had the classic, warm, empathetic experience from MDA. From my experience MDMA is the only compound that can cause both the warm, loved-up euphoria as well as some amazingly vivid hallucinations.

dizazterpiece6799 said:
Delta, do you know if there is a possibility that the D-amp I took with the mdma could have played a role in making my roll seem of a mda nature. Meaning more trippy of course.
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D-amp is not capable of producing psychedelic (trippy) effects until you've been on it long enough to hit some psychosis.

dizazterpiece6799 said:
I mean, you can reach the same level of euphoria that mdma results with methamphetamine. Cant sleep but sometimes methamphetamine surpasses mdma as far as euphoria. Actually without the wobbles from mdxx, sometimes it can be similar in feeling.
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I disagree. I've done *lots* of meth and I don't think it is accurate to say that meth produces a "stronger" euphoria than MDMA; but just a different kind of euphoria. Also, there are many more significant differences between an MDMA experience and a methamp experience than the wobbles.

purplefirefly said:
I actually experience eye wiggles from other drugs (psychedelics) such as 2c-i, 2c-b, 2c-c...I'm sure there are others as well. Mdma is not the only drug that can cause the wiggles.
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Damn, I wonder if my eyes wobbled when I was on 2C-B...only used it once and that time I was far too fucked up to walk or form words much less find a mirror to check my eyes...
 
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I don't even need a mirror to notice that it is happening. If I am just trying to space out or focus on something in particular I can feel my eyes darting back and forth. Sometimes it can almost give me a sensation of being dizzy.
 
purplefirefly said:
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I don't even need a mirror to notice that it is happening. If I am just trying to space out or focus on something in particular I can feel my eyes darting back and forth. Sometimes it can almost give me a sensation of being dizzy.
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Yeah, I have felt it while on high doses of MDMA before...but I was sooo gone on that 2C-B that I could have had one eye closed the whole time and not realized it. I had very little awareness of my body while plastered into that couch. I promised myself the next time I get more 2C-X I will not snort it and I will keep the dosage sane. If I can follow through with that hopefully I'll actually notice it if my eyes start wobbling.
 
i havent gone cross eyed, but i do get the eye wiggles on pills that are strong thats when you know you are feeling real good!! :)
 
Sandbaq, thanks for the info. I have reached the same euphoria with methamp as I have with mdma. I have even surpassed it. But of course, I prefer mdma because you can sleep for one, and I love the wobbles. But I have not done lots of meth, just about 6 or 7 times a long while ago. Just from what I experienced the only similarity was the euphoric high.
 
stvtlb said:
i havent gone cross eyed, but i do get the eye wiggles on pills that are strong thats when you know you are feeling real good!! :)
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I agree, thats when I feel like im rolling balls.
 
Well, I smoked/injected crystal from friday evening until my last shot at 10pm last night. Then I ate two quality pills from a trusted source 3hrs later at a rave. I got confirmation from more than one person that my eyes were wobbling all over town. <3 phenethylamines.
 
Nice...I never experienced any wobbles from methamp. I imagine that if you inject it things could get a little crazy.
 
dizazterpiece6799 said:
Nice...I never experienced any wobbles from methamp. I imagine that if you inject it things could get a little crazy.
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To my knowledge I have never gotten wobbles from methamp either. Last night the wobbles started about 45min after I double-dropped the pills. I have had my vision go fuzzy right after a shot of meth; but it doesn't feel quite like the fuzzy wobbly vision from MDMA.
 
Ahhh, well that makes sense. Thats why I love mdxx. Id imagine I would love the 2c substances if they made my eyes wobble. But I never heard of any wobbles from those chemicals. Alot of drugs can you make you feel good, but only mdxx has gave me the wobbles, so far anyway. But I really dont plan on experiencing any new drugs. I think Ill stick to mdxx. But if someone does try the 2c substances and they experience the wobbles, let me know.
 
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You really need to be careful when taking psychoactive chemicals. The "high" that you achieve from them isn't always going to be the same and your mindset is going to be a BIG part of how your experience goes. Pychedelics are not just "fun" drugs and they really should be respected (as with every other drug of course).

I would not suggest anyone take a pychedelic just because they like one small phsyical effect that you may or may not get. Please don't be reckless when it comes to drugs, it's best to research all possible effects before just diving in.

I also already mentioned that one side effect from all the 2c's I have tried is that I do infact get eye wiggles.
 
Thank you firefly for your concern and advice. I almost tried 2cb once, but I changed my mind because someone told me it was an uncomfortable high and it was compared to lsd. Im not too into that sort of high anymore. I like my eye wiggles but I like feeling good while experiencing them. Im not really into that "out of body experience" anymore. Along time ago yes, but not now. So yes, Ive done my research on 2c and decided not too try it.
 
Just for the record, eye wobbles were a heavy effect of the legal tablets of the80's. They were also chocolate chips and smelled heavily of sassafras. So in answer to one of the above stated posts, specks and smell of sassafras are very desireable traits in ecstasy.

Le Junk ;)
 
Le Junk said:
specks and smell of sassafras are very desireable traits in ecstasy.
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Not necessarily.

1. My understanding is that any such smell left over suggests that the synthesis was not done properly or completely.

2. Not sure about other countries but here in Australia it has been known that dealers will mix aniseed oil with bunk pills to make people think they are good.


Personally i have never had a pill that smelt like aniseed turn out to good quality.

In fact all the best pills I can think of had no noticeable smell at all.
 
drumnbass420 said:
For me a good roll is one with the eye wiggles. The bunkish/crap pills give me none.
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I totally agree with you man, I always figured that if I dont get eyewiggles, I either got a pill with little or absolutely no mdxx. Ive been rolling since 1999 when I was 16 years old and thats how I see it. Eye wiggles or im not rolling!! Sorry kids!!!
 
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