EXTREME Benzodiazepine tolerance.

[WorldWarMe]

Okay, this is really screwed up. When my friends take an example of 30-60mg Temazepam they're high out of their mind in a dream like state, and they have a tolerance as well.
Me, personally, can take up to 1,200mg of Temazepam (yes, 1,200mg) and feel EXTREMELY euphoric but I will not black out, fall asleep nor wake up with a hangover.
I was prescribed Nitrazepam two days ago, 10mg is supposed to be the highest dose prescribed so I decided to try 50mg. Nothing. Nothing at ALL. Took another 50mg. Nothing. Got extremely impatient, did a really stupid thing and took 300mg Nitrazepam to see if I could feel the effects. I hardly felt it. It lasted about an hour with a very little high.

Also, Alprazolam. I can take 30+mg and drink Bacardi 151 all night and not black our nor have a hangover.

Something is clearly wrong here, any advice? Is this normal?

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Do you take any other drugs or frequently drink alcohol? Some people also just have an extremely low sensitivity naturally.

 

[WorldWarMe]

I don't drink. I only drank those two nights. Also, I take opiates when I can get ahold of them. MDMA once every three years or so. Shrooms very rarely.

Edit: I also smoke a TON of weed.

 

[pally pete]

Okay, this is really screwed up. When my friends take an example of 30-60mg Temazepam they're high out of their mind in a dream like state, and they have a tolerance as well.
Me, personally, can take up to 1,200mg of Temazepam (yes, 1,200mg) and feel EXTREMELY euphoric but I will not black out, fall asleep nor wake up with a hangover.
I was prescribed Nitrazepam two days ago, 10mg is supposed to be the highest dose prescribed so I decided to try 50mg. Nothing. Nothing at ALL. Took another 50mg. Nothing. Got extremely impatient, did a really stupid thing and took 300mg Nitrazepam to see if I could feel the effects. I hardly felt it. It lasted about an hour with a very little high.

Also, Alprazolam. I can take 30+mg and drink Bacardi 151 all night and not black our nor have a hangover.

Something is clearly wrong here, any advice? Is this normal?

Unfortunately some of us are just wired up this way, many find it hard to believe but it's the unfortunate truth.

At my worst i would consume 300mg Alprazolam or 9000mg Temazepam or maybe 3000mg of Diazepam in 36-48 hours and think nothing of it... Although i would on a lot of occassions suffer sever amnesia but not much else.

 

[WorldWarMe]

Why is this though? If normal people took our doses they'd instantly slip into a coma. Is it the way our brains are wired or is it because I've been on benzos for seven years?

 

[pally pete]

Why is this though? If normal people took our doses they'd instantly slip into a coma. Is it the way our brains are wired or is it because I've been on benzos for seven years?

I guess for me it was gradual increase in tolerance over the course of a couple of years. Some people do have naturally high tolerance to certain substances but not this high a tolerance.

Someone with no tolerance would almost certainly die off anywhere near these doses.

 

[Snowy]

You both have built your tolerance. It's not that surprising when you increased the dose for years.
I guess you are heavily addicted to benzos. What are you going to do about that?
Or do you really want to continue this?!

 

[nAON]

How long have you been using benzos regularly for?

EDIT: missed your post

 

[pally pete]

You both have built your tolerance. It's not that surprising when you increased the dose for years.
I guess you are heavily addicted to benzos. What are you going to do about that?
Or do you really want to continue this?!

Ive been trying to quit since July 2010.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Oh I didn't realize you'd been on benzos for 7 years, I thought you meant you could take those doses with no tolerance. Of course if you have been taking them for a long time and gradually raising your tolerance that would mean you could take a much higher dose than someone else with a lower tolerance. You likely just have built up a very high tolerance. Were you able to get effects from normal doses back when you first started using benzos?

What are you hoping to achieve from this thread? It kinda sounds like you are just bragging about how much drugs you can do, I hope that isn't the case. Don't know what more anyone can say here other than it's not healthy to have a tolerance that high and the only thing you can really do is gradually decrease your dose.

 

[WorldWarMe]

Oh I didn't realize you'd been on benzos for 7 years, I thought you meant you could take those doses with no tolerance. Of course if you have been taking them for a long time and gradually raising your tolerance that would mean you could take a much higher dose than someone else with a lower tolerance. You likely just have built up a very high tolerance. Were you able to get effects from normal doses back when you first started using benzos?

What are you hoping to achieve from this thread? It kinda sounds like you are just bragging about how much drugs you can do, I hope that isn't the case. Don't know what more anyone can say here other than it's not healthy to have a tolerance that high and the only thing you can really do is gradually decrease your dose.

I made this thread because before when I was first prescribed them (for probably about 2.5 years) I felt the full effect of the drug. At this point, no matter how much I take, I can't feel the full effect.

Also, one more question.

I took 200mg Nitrazepam at about 12pm (16 hours ago) and took 150mg of Temazepam about 6 hours later and hardly felt anything. 150mg usually provides me a very euphoric, empathy and dream like state, but this wasn't the case this time. I then took 300mg more Temazepam and am actually quite high. The only thing is I don't feel the euphoric, empathetic and dream like state.

Is it because Nitrazepam is more along the lines of a sedative and it blocked the euphoric, empathetic and dream like state?

If that's the case, if I were to wait 24 hours before I take anymore Temazepam would I feel the full effects again?

Thank you in advanced.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

If you keep on trying to get high off your prescription you'll come to a point where it will be difficult for you to simply be maintained without going into withdrawal.

 

[pally pete]

If you keep on trying to get high off your prescription you'll come to a point where it will be difficult for you to simply be maintained without going into withdrawal.

QFT.

I feel as though im in a constant state of withdrawal no matter how much or how little i use, i used to be able to go cold turkey (not recommended and highly dangerous, even possibly fatal) for upto 1 - 2 months, id ride the worst of the withdrawals out, let my tolerance drop and then go back to using get a few days/weeks relief and then id be back to square one again!

 

[WorldWarMe]

Okay, so clearly I have a massive tolerance to benzos and I plan on attempting to taper off ASAP. I get a 14 tab 5mg Diazepam prescription once a week, and I plan on using those to do the tapering.

Also, about the euphoric temazepam question. I waited only 24 hours after taking the very sedating Nitrazepam and took 360 mg Temazepam and I feel alright. Its only been about twenty five minutes since I took the capsules though.

Sorry for any grammar or spelling mistakes, I'm typing this on my phone.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

I know this isn't absolutely necessary but I'm adding it for effect.

If I took 360mg Temazepam I would feel more high than at least 90% of bluelighters who are getting high will feel tonight for two minutes then pass the fuck out wherever I am, no matter how much coffee I could chug beforehand or what I'm doing. Hell, If I took amphetamine I'd still be out like a light.

 

[SpinningFree]

Proper Benzo Tapering

Okay, so clearly I have a massive tolerance to benzos and I plan on attempting to taper off ASAP. I get a 14 tab 5mg Diazepam prescription once a week, and I plan on using those to do the tapering.
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To me, this does not seem like a high enough starting point. I took a quick look around the net for a Benzo converter, and the strength of Temezepam is roughly 2 to 1 for Diazepam. I don't see an average dose per day for you clearly in the thread, but based on what you said, 14 tabs of 5mg Diaz per week is not NEARLY enough to ween you off properly. You have been taking it for 7 years? Did you explain that do your doctor. It's unfortunate, but many doctors do not know the risks of Benzo use and withdrawal. You need a LOT more to taper properly or you're just going to reach for more Temazepam to get through the WDs. Perhaps find a doctor that knows a little bit more. Maybe print out a Benzodiazepene conversion chart and tell him how much you averaged. Be honest. Some doctors really understand and will work with you..... others won't, or don't understand enough.

There are a lot of doctors out there. Keep looking until you find one who will really help. I'm not suggesting you double-dip and get another prescription, but once that Diazepam runs out, I would get another doctor who can give you a bit more to work with. Even so, no doctor is going to write a script for 75 mgs of Diazepam a day, BUT you can also taper down the Temazepam while you're taking to Diazepam. Tem has a long half life and I would suggest definitely switching to a high dose of Diazepam and then start by lowering the dose SLOWLY! There are a lot of good tapering programs for various benzos on the net, and I would encourage you to search and learn.

Seven years is a long time, so you're going to have to taper down VERY slowly. It's not fun and you'll have to deal with the lack of sleep, jitters, and other WD symptoms. Search around and there are some meds/herbs/smart drugs that may help to alleviate some of the symptoms.

Bottom line is, it's not easy, but you can definitely do it. Go SLOW. It may not seem like you're making any progress and you feel like crap for a long time, but your body has a great ability to re-shape and change itself to adapt to the absence of the drug. Be careful, but you can do it!

 

[WorldWarMe]

Well I was just prescribed 210mg Xanax and 3,400mg Temazepam aswell as Diazepam so I should be able to wean myself off properly now.

 

[ErgicMergic]

^ Crazy ass Canadians with your ridiculously generous taper plans. I heard some of your opioid addicts get prescribed 3 Oxyneo 80mg's a day for opioid maintenance...

OP, at this point, you need to start slowly tapering off benzodiazepines if they are causing you more harm than good. Even if you think you are getting no side effects, you will notice how badly those massive dosages are messing with your cognitive function and memory if you get clean from them.

You burned your GABA candle from both ends: sure, they burned in an awesome, bright color that was fun at first, but now your "wax" (tolerance) is finished and there's no more use in trying to light the candle (dose more and more benzos) again, you'll just keep burning your fingers.

 

[pally pete]

Tem has a long half life

Temazepam does not have a long half life really (8-20 hours)

The worst withdrawals ive ever had off any Benzos were Temazepam and Alprazolam and ive trued a fair few Benzos during my addiction.

The withdrawals i had off Temazepam made me want to jump out my window and kill myself

 

[WorldWarMe]

I withdrawed HORRIBLY off of Temazepam a while ago. And as you said, it was the worst thing ever in my life.

^ Crazy ass Canadians with your ridiculously generous taper plans. I heard some of your opioid addicts get prescribed 3 Oxyneo 80mg's a day for opioid maintenance...

OP, at this point, you need to start slowly tapering off benzodiazepines if they are causing you more harm than good. Even if you think you are getting no side effects, you will notice how badly those massive dosages are messing with your cognitive function and memory if you get clean from them.

You burned your GABA candle from both ends: sure, they burned in an awesome, bright color that was fun at first, but now your "wax" (tolerance) is finished and there's no more use in trying to light the candle (dose more and more benzos) again, you'll just keep burning your fingers.

I only had to pay <snip - no prices>, as well.