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Opioids experiences (not chemistry) re. potentiation of opioids with phenylalanine

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Hey how's it going? Hope we're all nice and safely off our tits. I've been searching BL for discussions about peoples experiences trying phenylalanine for opioid potentiation. I found some chemistry based discussions, but I haven't found much in the way of experiences. Maybe this is because the stuff is rubbish. If that's the case them my experiences are purely placebo. Here is what I've found:



Drinks claiming 'a source of phenylalanine' on the label seem to provide a few minutes of potentiation to both Codeine and Kratom. My Codeine doses where I tried this ranged between 400mg and 550mg. Kratom doses were about 2g-4g fortified powder. I found that a big mouthful of an appropriate drink would yield more intense opioid effects for about 20-30 mins, starting 5 mins after taking the drink.



Please don't make this thread into a chemistry discussion. There are threads from years ago covering that stuff.



My questions are: has anyone else tried anything similar? If so, what did you find?



Cheers, D
 
TheAzo said:
Looks like the answer is yes:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10998643
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Thanks for that. Problem is, this article basically says phenylalaline appears to potentiate, then goes on to discuss the chemistry behind the suggestion. I've found loads of material like this, but as per my initial post, I'm wondering if anyone can share real user experiences - whether successful or otherwise. IMO, good potentiation can play a vital role in harm reduction.

So, has anyone on this forum attempted opioid potentiation with phenylalaline? If so, what did you experience?
 
I always use DLPA (500-1000 mg) before I take any opiate. I noticed a significant potentation at the beginning (mainly with pod tea), that's the reason I got it in regime. Never stopped using it so can't say if the effects wear off when I drop it. I always take it in empty stomach.

I don't know if it's the D or L-form or both behind this, I never took pure D or L so cannot know. But DLPA is definitely in my regime, with or without the opioids.

However when I'm in WD (pods) I have dosed up to 1500 mgs of DLPA without any success. Zero value on that, but I'll still keep it. The first times I took it even without opioids I experienced some serious analgesia and feelings of well being. However, I never experienced them after that, so i'm not sure if it was a placebo.
 
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Nice one, thanks for that. On wikipedia it says that it's a mixture of the two. Think I'll be investing!

Looks like a slow thread but any other personal experiences would be much appreciated.

Cheers
D
 
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