Every parent's worst nightmare: how ketamine killed our daught

Can i come stay with you? =D

But seriously ketamine is not very dangerous at all if you are responsible with it hell it does not seem to fuck my brain up nearly as bad as well alcohol. Also i love how they always call it a horse tranq and forget to mention that it's used in hospitals everyday as well.

sure! C'mon down! not sure where your rainy, foggy island is, but it's hot and sunny down hee in texas. ya!
AND my buddy's on the way over with a new bottle of opana and fetanyl patches.. been awhile!
i'll check in l8r, unlss i'm outside up on the roof or something...cheers!!=D:D:D<3
 
IDIOT, ot her fault if her parents and elders had provided with the right education she may have figured out sedatives and water don't mix, feel sorry for her, but angry that ketamine was blamed.

i'm on ketamine now and feeling very upset such an incident has occured through this kind of experience.
 
Intresting article taken from: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ps-cocaine-as-new-drug-of-choice-1366714.html

However, a survey carried out by Professor David Nutt, the chairman of the Government's drug advisory panel, ranks the class C drug as the sixth most dangerous illegal drug available – more harmful than Ecstasy and cannabis. The mistaken belief that the substance is risk-free is encouraging more young people to try ketamine and to take it in increasingly higher doses.

But experts say that it can cause heart or lung failure and point to the fact that it has been linked to 23 deaths between 1993 and 2006. In 2006 it was classified as a class C drug.
Martin Barnes, chief executive of DrugScope, said: "There is worrying evidence that people are experimenting with larger amounts or are even injecting the drug. Evidence of young people using ketamine is a particular concern, especially as many users may underestimate the risks involved."

The popularity of the drug, which can be snorted, swallowed, injected and even smoked, has grown from an estimated 60,000 users between 1998 and 2000 to about 113,000 in 2008. At last year's Glastonbury festival, police seized double the amount of ketamine than they did at the 2007 event.


Cool, data can be fun, let's couple that data with some statistics:

Ketamine users in UK as of 2008: Lowball it at 100,000
Ketamine deaths in UK in the last 14 years: 23, that's 1.6 per year.

Let's compare that mortality rate to say, tobacco!

Taken from: http://www.ic.nhs.uk/statistics-and...ng/statistics-on-smoking-in-england-2010-[ns]

In England in 2008 21 per cent of adults reported cigarette smoking, the same as in 2007 and lower than 39 per cent in 1980. Prevalence continues to be higher among men than women, though the difference in 2008 is reduced compared with recent years, with 21 per cent of men and 20 per cent of women reporting cigarette smoking.

In England in 2009 three in ten secondary school pupils (29 per cent), had tried smoking at least once and 6 per cent were regular smokers (smoking at least one cigarette a week). Girls were more likely to smoke than boys; 10 per cent of girls had smoked in the last week compared with 8 per cent of boys.

In England in 2008/09 two thirds (67 per cent) of current smokers reported wanting to give up smoking, with three quarters (75 per cent) reporting having tried to give up smoking at some point in the past. Around two thirds (69 per cent) of adults report that they do not allow smoking at all in their home, an increase from 61 per cent in 2006. Four in five people (81 per cent) agree with the smoking ban in public places.

In England in 2008/09 an estimated 462,900 hospital admissions of adults aged 35 and over were attributable to smoking. This accounts for 5 per cent of all hospital admissions in this age group.

In England in 2009 an estimated 81,400 deaths of adults aged 35 and over were attributable to smoking. This accounts for 18 per cent of all deaths in this age group.


In conclusion,

Ketamine kills 1.6 people per year out of 100,000 users, or less than .001%
Tobacco kills almost 20% of it's users, or 1 out of every 5 people.

I think these facts speak for themselves.
 
sure! C'mon down! not sure where your rainy, foggy island is, but it's hot and sunny down hee in texas. ya!
AND my buddy's on the way over with a new bottle of opana and fetanyl patches.. been awhile!
i'll check in l8r, unlss i'm outside up on the roof or something...cheers!!=D:D:D<3

You sound like a nice guy man, don't do a bunch of fentanyl and opana and go on your roof, ever see the movie 'Stuart Saves His Family'?
 
^ Both have formulations that are made for animals. Duragesic patches are typically given to animals after surgery, perhaps that's what he meant.
I know, but it seemed that the poster that I was quoting believes that they are only vet meds. Just trying to point out that they both have a greater capicity for human useage.

And those statistics are just absurd. Twenty-three deaths there in 14 years! Oh my, it's an epidemic of rotting corpses8o8)
 
I know, but it seemed that the poster that I was quoting believes that they are only vet meds. Just trying to point out that they both have a greater capicity for human useage.

And those statistics are just absurd. Twenty-three deaths there in 14 years! Oh my, it's an epidemic of rotting corpses8o8)


True, I just remember when we had my dog neutered and they put a 25ug Duragesic on him for his post-operative pain. I was dopesick that day too and I was really tempted to eat the thing, but then I thought to myself: "Im only dopesick.....the dog had his balls cut off....." Needless to say, I didn't take it.
 
LOL thanks, but i'm not a guy! and i didn't see said movie. and i stayed inside and now regretting scoring at all, cuz i'm right back to detoxing, and it's not any easier than the last 300 times!!! i'm hangin' in there tho!!
 
fuck. the. media.

Ketamine did not kill anyone!

Doing depressants in the bath tub killed someone.
 
i did try some durogesic once and almost died i swear, no more vet meds for me

Fentanyl and ketamine are just as much drugs for humans as they are for animals. In fact, fentanyl is much more potent in humans than dogs or cats.

Using drugs at all, without doing the proper research, is why many people "almost died".

I know, but it seemed that the poster that I was quoting believes that they are only vet meds. Just trying to point out that they both have a greater capicity for human useage.

And those statistics are just absurd. Twenty-three deaths there in 14 years! Oh my, it's an epidemic of rotting corpses8o8)

I know right?

I have tried an NSAID which killed over 90 people in about a 3 year period between 1990 and 1993.

There are so many way more dangerous drugs than most recreational ones. Ketamine is especially safe on its own. When you combine ketamine with ethanol and other drugs, you should expect strong synergy.
 
it is a shame she died.

I find ketamine + alcohol intensely euphoric.

I dont know about bath on it tho, seems like a waste. would rather rage out at a show or kick it with my friends.
 
^psh. don't fight ignorance with ignorance. that's like saying the drunk college student who falls off a balcony was killed by gravity.
 
LOL!! TEXAS where else?? seriously, we've had stuff like that and many others that we get at the clinic at Tex. AM. i started experimenting with some things, but not K, a long time ago.
hmm TX...

i had a couple of buddies who acquired and did w/e with K. one night for some reason they started drinking it, then drink the wrong thing.

1 died, the other went catatonic.
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IDK if he came out of it, in austin 99-01?



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i would never do less then .25, usually .5 at a time, and was always a gem with DMT, but i never feared for my life... on the dance floor, or living room floor.
 
^psh. don't fight ignorance with ignorance. that's like saying the drunk college student who falls off a balcony was killed by gravity.

meh, internetz miscomm. I was trying to convey how ridiculous it is to blame someone's death on some inanimate matter. Blaming it on ketamine is as ridiculous as blaming it on water, I guess is what I meant.
 
I agree with Roger&Me, its not ketamine that is the culprit here. Its the fact that this woman did a large dose of a depressant anesthetic in a bathtub. Thats like using a hair dryer in the bath tub. Darwinism at work.







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I'm finding some of my fellow bluelighter's lack of sympathy for the girl kinda disturbing. Yes it was a sensationalist piece, what kind of news isn't? The fact is the poor girl died as a result of having used ketamine. Maybe not directly, but it contributed.

I'm not gonna go off on a rant of ketamine is bad (I love K =D). But I think the girl should get atleast some sympathy, especially from drug users who I'm sure have done things way dumber than this, but have gotten away with it. Calling this "Darwinism at work" is just straight fucked up, she didn't go take a bath on it out of sheer stupidity, she just didn't know and thought it'd be relaxing. People are gonna say "well she should have educated herself!".. Some people don't have time to be spending all day browsing pubmed or lurking through BL. Sure she should have atleast looked into it a bit before trying it, but does her ignorance deserve death? Fuck no.

/rant

On a different note, sensationalist and kinda factually inaccurate or not, some of the actual facts from this are what I like to hear. The dad realizes that the schedule of the drug means nothing to users, and that educating them is the important thing. This is a HUGE step up from those parents that have had their kids hurt from a drug and immediately call for a universal ban.
 
Saying "Darwinism at Work" would be fucked up if I said it to her family, but I didn't. I don't know the girl, and neither do any of you, and her family will never see this, so we can put our emotions aside and look at this situation objectively for what it is:

Don't do drugs that make you pass out in the bath tub.


Yes, I've done stupider shit, and lived, and for that, I am lucky.
 
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