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Ever think about where your cash goes to?

Did you aim this at me or the other guy you quoted? I'm not absolving the consumer of responsibility, merely pointing out that unethical practices go on in near enough every business about. It's hard to find a t-shirt that was produced ethically let alone drugs. I also consider funding Big Pharma to be an ethical problem too but ultimately I need medicine.

I don't fund Mexican cartels since I live in the UK but I'm sure some of my money ultimately goes to other criminal operations. Again I can't absolve myself of all responsibility here, but at the same time, it is a side effect of prohibition. No one would take risks on potentially cut drugs from gangs if they had a legal regulated alternative.

Most of the stuff I use is legitimate pharma except weed and psychedelics. As I understand the medicine diversion supply chain, it tends to come from wholesalers in countries with lax regulation, imported into the UK and sold on the darknet or by dealers. Often the dealers are pretty close to source because ordering pharmas from corrupt countries like India or Pakistan (where a lot of the benzos come from) is very easy so you don't need a criminal gang to middleman it for you.

Also, this.
 
I get my drugs (always been a prescription-drugs guy) by lying to doctors and buy off people with their own prescriptions, so what damage is my cash doing? I'm pretty sure sweet old lady who sells me her fentanyl patches doesn't work for ISIS. Or the college guy who'll sell me his methyphenidate because one of his roommates moved out and him and his friend are struggling with rent?
And those are both real people I actually buy from.

 
if you've got any sort of a brain, then you know that using drugs supports crime. as you've said though, people that use any drug tend to bury their head in the sand when it comes to this issue. i count myself in with the head buryer's in that as long as i get what i want, i.e. crack and gear, then am happy.
 
I get almost all of my psychedelics from clearnet sources, mostly from a well-known distributor of stock that is synthesized by a company who is extremely above-board and producing things legally in their jurisdiction, and only distributes it to a select few approved vendors. I feel pretty good about it that it hasn't passed through any cartels or organized crime networks, unless you count gray-market psychedelic vending as crime, which I don't since it seems pretty victimless (as far as I can tell). I get my weed from illegal distribution of legal weed from surrounding states but I also feel pretty good about that. I don't support big pharma, because fortunately I am not on any medication. Actually the drugs I feel the worst about personally are tobacco and alcohol, because those industries aren't great. I also feel rather bad that corporate legal weed has pushed out the small-time farmers who created the American homegrown weed scene in the first place.

But overall I feel pretty good about where my money is going, compared to where it could be going. I left opiates behind a long time ago and although I do a little coke if offered I would never spend money on it, it's a major waste (I do understand that I'm being complicit in the crime involved in coke distribution even by doing it but hey, it's hard to turn down a bump isn't it?). I don't personally get any of my drugs off the street at all, not even my weed.
 
No way of knowing. Surely at the high level most drugs do come from serious criminal gangs who are likely involved in other shit, a sad side effect of prohibition.

But you should also wonder where your clothes come from? Probably a sweatshop staffed by children. What about all those made in China electronics? Not just the factories putting the things together, but also the supply chain for the metals which are often mined yet again by children. What about the dodgy practices applied by big oil companies who are destroying the planet? Even your bank might be helping cartels to launder their money as HSBC was recently caught doing. And this is before we even get into the shady af pharma industry. Look at what Purdue did in the US!

It's pretty much impossible to avoid all unethical practises in your purchasing decisions. Not to say that legalisation wouldn't help reduce the dark side of the trade, it surely would. But often you get the media scaremongering about how evil the drug trade is while ignoring how much horrible shit goes on behind the scenes to get people their clothes and smartphones.

I agree with you there 100% & we share the same views.
 
Yes.... I started becoming concerned after watching a documentary circa 2012 after watching a documentary on the out right slaughter and violence in Mexico.


Santa muerte is some very creepy shit indeed. All the little Mexican bodegas by my house all have Santa Muerte and Jesus Malverde(seated on a chair with his little bolo tie, remote control and a fat stack of cash) statues for sale along with all the Mother Mary candles, rosaries and other various saint statues. I'm a quarter Puerto Rican and we have a similar thing on the island called and made popular by the Sublime song Santeria but it has a lot of differences and isn't nearly as sinister. A friend of mine practiced it. It's pretty much ancestral, Catholic, saint worship, totem worship and voodoo all rolled into one. He had a bunch of totems that he named all over his house. He would leave them shots of liquor, food and yes he did sacrifice chickens. Their remains would be littered around these various totems all for the purpose of his ritualistic enchantations.

I know very well about Santeria & also Santa Muerte & Jesus Malverde, I am UK based & follow them. I have a shrine built to Santa Muerte in my bedroom for example.
I am yet to kill any animals though & find that whole thing foul.
 
With all that said, OP you definitely fear mongering here.. Omg a house full of pot and immigrants you say?!?
-GC

You sir are an idiot, good thing it isn't your family that are illegaly run across many international borders for a safer life only to be forced to grow weed in some horrific UK council estate & have the threat of death over your head by some Chinese triad gang.

Strange you seem to skip the huge issue with meth & the several thousand people a year having their head cut off & their corpse dumped in wastelands of North-West Mexico.
 
Let me just say to all you lot saying how great you source your stuff etc..........how do you know your most trusted soruce doesn't sell stuff on the deep web & take TSR for example we all know DPR was taking a small cut for the service. What did he try to do with his cash again folks?.......oh yeah hire a hitman that turned out to be a CIA agent.

Just saying like...........

Also for you lot you ever heard of that Tod guy that ran his LSD bunker with that stripper Krystal? Look what he got into also, you think he funded his shady as hell lifestyle by charity? No he was selling his lsd to people like you lot.
 
Not sure why they'd need to sell on the deep web when they have legal chemical they can sell easily to way more people on the clearnet. But yeah it's true I don't know for sure. But let me put it this way. I'd rather support ****** than the pharmaceutical companies, or the cartels. Quite sure ****** isn't beheading people and terrorizing multiple countries. It's a matter of scale. They're probably not totally clean. And yeah there has been some fucked up stuff on deep web markets. But compared to alternatives...

By the way I'm not trying to compare myself morally to anyone, just discussing my perspective. I don't think all drug sourcing is created equal in terms of harm.
 
By the way I'm not trying to compare myself morally to anyone, just discussing my perspective. I don't think all drug sourcing is created equal in terms of harm.

From full blow selling ass for crack (or crack for crack if you will) to abusing your vicodan or ativan rx, we all all just drug addicts trying to fight through life the best we can. Whether you're homeless and shooting heroin or well-off and buying lots of OC80's online we're the same really. Just different levels of affordability, really.
 
oh yeah yeah, they don't even need that much either, they're tryin to kill them all too, really.
oil for opium.
do you think the govt. is sober
or doesn't need low interest cash either.
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i kno ??

I believe you may be hyper-vigilant, Ma'am. Might I recommend a nice sedative? I promise it's not microchipped ?
 
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I seriously do not care where the $ goes... it may all be ultimately going to CIA for all I know to separate and conquer. They do this often.
Been a tactic for many a thousands of years....
 
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I seriously do not care where the $ goes... it may all be ultimately going to CIA for all I know to separate and conquer. They do this often.
Been a tactic for many a thousands of years....
Been a tactic of what?
 
Been a tactic of what?
devide and conquer.
information is out there but we send troops (elite) to prep the locals for warfare... cause a rift and step in and police the country.
remember the iran/contra thing with olie north?
just sayin they aint about world peace... its money...
 
devide and conquer.
information is out there but we send troops (elite) to prep the locals for warfare... cause a rift and step in and police the country.
remember the iran/contra thing with olie north?
just sayin they aint about world peace... its money...
Ah I know literally NOTHING about any of that. Maybe because I'm UK? Or probably just I'm very politically ignorant.
 
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