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ever feel like life is one great big psychedelic experience?

Ever feel like life is one great big psychedelic experience?

  • Yes

    Votes: 180 76.6%
  • No

    Votes: 55 23.4%

  • Total voters
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I made this post about 7 months ago. I ended up inadvertently elaborating on it, elsewhere, just a minute ago, so I figured I'd share my results in this thread.

keep in mind I wrote this in regards to an entirely different subject matter. If you see something that seems responsive and it doesn't quite tie into what I'm saying, odds are it's unimportant, and unrelated. If you have any questions about this stuff, feel free to ask me. I could talk about it all day.

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I think the progression of human understanding begins with our consciousness as a sort of singularity. When our awareness is first developed, all input is indistinguishable. Can't tell color apart from sound apart from pain. It's all just random ass signals we're completely inequipped to process or differentiate between at all, which we must then learn, as we become more conscious.

ascension beyond this state likely begins very minimally while still in the womb. Even to a cognitively functional being, most stimuli within the womb is identical by default. I mean, think about it. The body is submerged underwater. No visual stimuli exists, no sound exists, and most all physical sensation is the same. The only input I imagine a developing child even has opportunity to perceive at all, before it is born, is its own development, in itself, via its own development. I've even toyed with the idea this factor alone may single-handedly be responsible for the unconditional human compulsion to aspire and understand oneself. You may agree with me by the time I'm done, but until then, I'll leave it alone; it's a bit beyond the scope of this discussion. Regardless, though, I imagine this rudimentary assimilatory process serves as a precursor, to whatever degree, for all future integrations of stimuli.

after birth, shit gets more hectic. Input is everywhere. Sight, sound, more diverse physical sensation. Then, reactions. First fears, then needs, then appropriations of value. This causal progression actually strikes me as very radically straightforward, in its essence. It's a chain reaction, just like any other, bound by entirely logical parameters.

awareness is first conditioned, by sheer necessity, to tune out noise, so to speak. The sensation of one's ever-present beating heart, for instance, becomes less perceptible than the existence of objects within one's immediate visual spectrum. I doubt these initial developments even rely on conscious will at all. Rather, they are all a result of the same quantifiable neurological process. That process is the physical adaptation of our brains, enacted to maintain our ability to exist, and to function. Interactivity, then, is quickly granted higher priority than dissociated observation, for reasons of inherent self-preservation alone. I suspect these are the first moments of the human ego; practically indiscernible from the first moments of life.

beyond this phase, child psychology already has all sorts of theories and observations on the further development of consciousness, many of which I agree with, in what little I understand and remember of them. Most high schools nowadays have basic psychology classes, and I know a lot of you guys are in college anyway, so I won't bother trying to explain, as my own knowledge isn't complete enough to imbue upon a person as truth. If you're curious what I'm talking about, though, feel free to investigate Piaget, assimilation, egocentrism, A-not-B errors, and whatever else you may find on the subject; these understandings all relate very closely to the suppositions I myself have made.

the transitions from childhood to adolescence to adulthood are very complicated, and their implications are very broad. I do not have the patience to explain my interpretations of them in much detail, but if you are reading this, I imagine you have experienced them for yourself to some degree. All that is necessary to contextualize them, though, is the understanding that all further development relies on past developments. This is common sense, more or less. Some of it is quite obvious: the progression from childish naivete to realistic expectations of life through the integration of previous experience, for example. Other examples, such as self-deception and biased input filtration, are a bit more subtle, and more complicated. I shall not bore you by explaining them.

to grasp the further evolution of consciousness, one need look no further than traditional philosophy of self. I'm not a fan of any philosophy, at all, other than my own. Rather, I'm bored by it, and a harsh critic of it. I don't think any one school of thought really has any more absolute a grasp of the truth than any other, but I do believe the constituencies between them serve as a fair indication of truth's true nature. Either way, citing some vague ass bullshit and making you figure it out for yourself is far easier for me than attempting to communicate my own understanding of it from scratch, so that's what I'm doing. When you get back from that long, arduous road, you will understand, just as I do, that the end-point of consciousness, so to speak, is a return to the singularity I initially described. Everything is essentially the same. Even contextually, even from the viewpoint of how things affect you personally, they are the same. The only possible way to experience this is by following the logical sequence of events I've loosely tried to describe. I'm not there yet, mind you, but I have tasted it plenty. That is how I know.

to summarize, and to finally tie this into the subject of this thread, I do not believe knowledge is heirarchial at all. I believe the assimilation of experience is sequential and essentially deterministic, and I believe knowledge is secondary to that, and subordinate to it. In this way, I believe every human existence serves as a microcosm of the development of the universe, and particularly, of its increasing ability to organize, process, contextualize, perceive, and eventually manifest itself. The more I understand this, the more it affirms itself, because that's the only way anything can even be possible at all. No matter how deep I try to go to legitimize these observations, I see nothing but more and more parallels. Fractal in nature. God has truly, truly created us in his own image.

I'm very, very close to cracking this riddle. Even if I turn out to be mad, it's all just a part of the plan, at this point.

I'm so fucking serious about this it's ridiculous.

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^^^ it's true, guys, it's true. :D
 
I wish the yes option was capitalized and had three exclamation marks after it!!!

I'm always rambling about how life is one big trip.... and when I'm tripping it's like you realize what a fucking trip life is... and how things all sort of fall into place like it's all meant to be... like dominoes tipping over.... one event to another...

it's all just too perfect....

what a trip!
 
Ya know, I had a bit of an epiphany the other day...

I was standing in a bathroom at a movie theater and there was a mirror on the wall that I was facing as well a mirror on the opposing wall. Ya know when that happens, how the mirrors reflect each other into infinity? You can stand there, in between the two mirrors, and raise your hand up, and all of you will raise your hand going on into infinity. It's a reflection reflecting a reflection....which in turn reflects that reflection and so on into infinity.

Does this not serve as a metaphor for the subject/object dichotomy that we experience in this world? Subject reflects object, and object reflects subject and so on and so forth into infinity.

We hear the cliche "we are infinite" all the time, but what does that really mean? I think its a very similar idea to those opposing mirrors in the movie theater bathroom.

Does that make any sense or am I just crazy?
 
nbsp said:
to summarize, and to finally tie this into the subject of this thread, I do not believe knowledge is heirarchial at all. I believe the assimilation of experience is sequential and essentially deterministic, and I believe knowledge is secondary to that, and subordinate to it. In this way, I believe every human existence serves as a microcosm of the development of the universe, and particularly, of its increasing ability to organize, process, contextualize, perceive, and eventually manifest itself. The more I understand this, the more it affirms itself, because that's the only way anything can even be possible at all. No matter how deep I try to go to legitimize these observations, I see nothing but more and more parallels. Fractal in nature. God has truly, truly created us in his own image.

I'm very, very close to cracking this riddle. Even if I turn out to be mad, it's all just a part of the plan, at this point.

I'm so fucking serious about this it's ridiculous.

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^^^ it's true, guys, it's true. :D[/size][/font]


right on! you put that in a very articulate way. ive come to the same conclusions.
could you elaborate on what the riddle is though? ive got a good clue but i want to hear it in your words.
 
Roger&Me said:
Ya know, I had a bit of an epiphany the other day...

I was standing in a bathroom at a movie theater and there was a mirror on the wall that I was facing as well a mirror on the opposing wall. Ya know when that happens, how the mirrors reflect each other into infinity? You can stand there, in between the two mirrors, and raise your hand up, and all of you will raise your hand going on into infinity. It's a reflection reflecting a reflection....which in turn reflects that reflection and so on into infinity.

Does this not serve as a metaphor for the subject/object dichotomy that we experience in this world? Subject reflects object, and object reflects subject and so on and so forth into infinity.

We hear the cliche "we are infinite" all the time, but what does that really mean? I think its a very similar idea to those opposing mirrors in the movie theater bathroom.

Does that make any sense or am I just crazy?

sorry to DP (double post%) ) this thread, whatever

uh, i definatly understand what your saying, but i think in a diferent way then what you understand it.
i see what your saying with object reflecting subject but in a way that the object as being a symbol to the subject upon which it reflects an aspect of the subject, and the subject being a physical reflection of what the object is--matter. also something infinate in the way that matter is always changing and rearanging itself, when you think about the way your body works it is realy all over the planet right now. we are a combination of the earth and sky. the object makes the subject and the subject in turn creates more objects. life is infinate and the concept of life echoes in every aspect of the universe


oh and a psychedelic expereince is by definition life (or vise versa). mind manifesting. that is what our bodies are--the ability to physicaly manifest our minds. its realy beautiful--especialy when you see the reflections and maya in everything, when you notice that it is all tangiable to change at your minds hand and that you realy have the ability to do anything.
 
^ Ah, that's a better way of putting it. Psychedelic experience somehow condenses the general pattern of experience by accelerating our perception of time (or some such thing)
 
ControlDenied said:
^ Ah, that's a better way of putting it. Psychedelic experience somehow condenses the general pattern of experience by accelerating our perception of time (or some such thing)

Agreed.
 
yeh nbsp that is how I see the world too. and yet any philosophy you choose to see the world through will always have some kind of antipode that leaves a barrent waste as its result. which perhaps is the nature of the environment in which the "game" of evolution takes place
 
Absolutely! <3

Seems like the drugs just help you see the "how" and the "why"; sober life is the "what".

I had an experience as a kid, before I ever touched drugs, that was very psychedelic, in that I experienced what most psychonauts would describe as "ego loss" (although sometimes I think that the phrase is overused, and doesn't really describe the psychedelic experience very well). I just remember sorta tripping out for a bit, seeing beyond the ego for the first time.

I'm sure most of you can remember glimpses beyond the ego as a kid, wondering about the consciousness of other animals, etc. I think that young forming minds are much more open, and that psychedelics can bring us back to this clean slate that we once had as children.
 
yeh definitely, children are naturally still part of their intuition, except some very sad weird ones perhaps. i find they are like animals almost, of course i dont mean this in a physical sense hehe, but that they kind of respond unhesitantly to anything and sense vibes extremely well
 
I think the psychedelic experience smacks of mysticism and once you've had that mystical experience under the influence of a psychedelic drug it's just easier to see sober life through that lens.
 
man, you guys send me over
i can see the perspective from which u all speak but i just have to break away from thinking like that
 
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