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Ever do Ether?

KinoTheBlueElf

KinoTheBlueElf

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It is way more of a psychedelic than what is show in Fear and Loathing. If you do enough, it is like a dissociative, you close your eyes and you're in your own little world. Theres people, patterns, and all kinds visions. I'm wanting to know if anyone has experienced Ether in this way. Please share your stories.
 
In my teens... many, many years ago, going after Crowley's visionary experiences I did Ether several times. Yup, kind of dissociative and euphoric. Yet my greatest trips were on a ether+chloroform mixture, which was amazing. It was my true psychedelic experience. Ether and Chloroform were the sole inhalants I tried. However, I lost interest because of the stench one gets. Everyone knows you were near ether, for it exudes from your pores for a looooong time, and I got out excuses to smell the way I was. So one day, me and a friend used this fact as a pretext for ending my little C+E bottle, and so it was the end with an incredible blast!
 
Ether is a good experience, as experiences go. But the chemical itself is super nasty, and almost any ingestion of ether will leave you reeking like the shit. It also burns mucosa pretty bad (solvent) and is liable to catch fire and explode if not handled carefully.

You will smell for about 12-24 hours after ingesting ether. It boils at about 30 degC, so it comes off mostly on your breath and in your sweat. You'll smell like the town drunk even if you don't act like one.

It's a lot easier on the liver than chloroform is though. If you're going to experiment with inhalants, ether is probably "the one" to try.
 
sekio said:
It's a lot easier on the liver than chloroform is though. If you're going to experiment with inhalants, ether is probably "the one" to try.
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It is also a lot easier on your nose too, chloroform sometimes causes me to get painful sores in my nose that last for days.
 
Rorthron said:
In my teens... many, many years ago, going after Crowley's visionary experiences I did Ether several times. Yup, kind of dissociative and euphoric. Yet my greatest trips were on a ether+chloroform mixture, which was amazing. It was my true psychedelic experience. Ether and Chloroform were the sole inhalants I tried. However, I lost interest because of the stench one gets. Everyone knows you were near ether, for it exudes from your pores for a looooong time, and I got out excuses to smell the way I was. So one day, me and a friend used this fact as a pretext for ending my little C+E bottle, and so it was the end with an incredible blast!
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The Ether is whats doing the smell. Chloroform by itself smells very sweet and the smell from it doesn't travel like Ether fumes.
 
I like the taste and smell of ether, but the neighbors probably won't:(.

Ether is one of the craziest drug's I've done. It doesn't kick in as fast as nitrous but lasts much longer. I huffed a bunch from starting fluid which was mainly ether but some heptane and hexane. Everything got really weird, I ran and sat down. Got stuck in some kind of loop for what seemed like eternity, couldn't move. It was only like 10-15 minutes. A lot like hydrocarbon inhalants. It was very unsettling. I can't understand how Hunter S. Thompson could handle ether but not PCP. The movie "Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas" does not convey the true madness of ether.

I still would like to try really pure ether in moderation. Starter fluid usually has heptane and hexane. Both aren't good, heptane's not so toxic but hexane is. I have seen starter fluid with just ether and CO2, but don't want to have the neighbors think there's a drug lab and it might have peroxides in it.

That ether/chloroform mixture sounds interesting. It's a street drug in Brazil called lanca perfume. It's usually scented as lemons. Banned but popular, especially during Carnival. Sometimes ethyl chloride is used instead, also banned.

Chloroform is so fucking toxic, yet I just want to try it. It's supposed to be really sweet, potent and quicker acting than ether but slower than nitrous oxide. Also converts into trichloromethanol which is similar to chloral hydrate. Sadly it converts into phosgene too.
 
Apparently (on account of the phosgene and miscellaneous chlorinated gunk that CHCl3 makes) chloroform gives a righteous hangover.
 
THC2LSD said:
Chloroform is so fucking toxic, yet I just want to try it. It's supposed to be really sweet, potent and quicker acting than ether but slower than nitrous oxide. Also converts into trichloromethanol which is similar to chloral hydrate. Sadly it converts into phosgene too.
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Yes toxic, but not outrageously toxic. It was used for a long time as an anesthetic. I did never abuse it neither in the number of times used nor in the amount - I never passed out, for instance - The ether - chloroform mixture used was rumored to be the sweet spot for best effects: 2 parts of chloroform + 1 of Ether. A small amount on an handkerchief and we inhaled it until it was dry, then laugh and repeat!
 
but still I wouldn't do Chlorform often, its also carcinogenic so even once can be enough!

But Ether is great! I did it quite a lot.
Once on a festival I felt like Fear and Loathing, it was already dark and all those lights and people really confused me as I couldnt find the exit anymore (wanted to go back to my tent) and stumbled arround the festival and trying to giver ether to all other people :D later 2 guys even went with me and we emptied the bottle :D
But the hangover I got next day was the worst ever, I also puked like 5 times in the night and also in the morning and got the badest headache ever...

On other tries at home it was more relaxing and you can really get some beautiful closed eyed vision, its a lot like Nitrous oxide but lasting a bit longer and you can easily huff more :)

I read some reports about huffing toluene too but never did it (its also a carcinogen but not as bad as chloroform so I would consider it safer)
 
Torabora said:
but still I wouldn't do Chlorform often, its also carcinogenic so even once can be enough!

But Ether is great! I did it quite a lot.
Once on a festival I felt like Fear and Loathing, it was already dark and all those lights and people really confused me as I couldnt find the exit anymore (wanted to go back to my tent) and stumbled arround the festival and trying to giver ether to all other people :D later 2 guys even went with me and we emptied the bottle :D
But the hangover I got next day was the worst ever, I also puked like 5 times in the night and also in the morning and got the badest headache ever...

On other tries at home it was more relaxing and you can really get some beautiful closed eyed vision, its a lot like Nitrous oxide but lasting a bit longer and you can easily huff more :)

I read some reports about huffing toluene too but never did it (its also a carcinogen but not as bad as chloroform so I would consider it safer)
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And also Chloroform doesn't really give you the cool visions like Ether does, but with Ether you have to deal with the smell. I still like Ether the best though.
 
Don't have any experience myself, but I thougt I'd share a small anecdote from the local paper.
There was a small accident and the car with a woman driver got approached by the police. She reeked of alcohol and thus she had to do the breathanalyzer test. Turns out she has 10 promille. That's how it gets measured here in Belgium. To give you an idea, the legal driving limit now is 1 beer, being 0.2 promille. They say 4promille can kill you. Turns out she could converse totally normal. It was the Devil Ether ! Apparently it's a false positive, because the test shouldn't detect ether. She still was fined though, for driving under the influence.
 
sekio said:
Ether is a good experience, as experiences go. But the chemical itself is super nasty, and almost any ingestion of ether will leave you reeking like the shit. It also burns mucosa pretty bad (solvent) and is liable to catch fire and explode if not handled carefully.

You will smell for about 12-24 hours after ingesting ether. It boils at about 30 degC, so it comes off mostly on your breath and in your sweat. You'll smell like the town drunk even if you don't act like one.

It's a lot easier on the liver than chloroform is though. If you're going to experiment with inhalants, ether is probably "the one" to try.
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I've got a "did you know" for you ; )
Did you know that there are Ukrainians celebrating "Watra" (I don't know exactly what it is, but Ukrainians living in Poland gather in the north of it) who drink ether? Yes, it boils at body temperature. I've heard they burp soundly ; )

I'm also willing to try some ether. Friend has got some from the times it was used during surgeries.
 
I would avoid keeping bottles of unstabilised ether around, they can form crystalline peroxide compounds which are friction-sensitive explosives.
 
The ether peroxide compounds are the kind of explosives that will blow up if you breathe on them, they're not going to make it into your body. If you see an old bottle of ether with crystals forming in it, call a bomb squad...

Diethyl ether is fairly safe (as solvents go) physiologically, most of it evaporates through the skin and breath, and the remainder is metabolised to ethanol.

Chloroform is less safe but it does not form peroxides. Instead it decomposes to phosgene, chlorine etc.
 
^A better test for peroxides is to use potassium iodide. If the ether changes colors the peroxides are oxidizing the iodide to iodine. I could have sworn I read somewhere that old oxidized ether is harder on the lungs. Pure ether itself is kind of hard on the lungs, really it's only toxic effect beside anesthesia. As opposed to chloroform which damages a lot of shit.

Chloroform can be stabilized with about 1% methanol or ethanol. Probably better to use ethanol.

I'm kind of curious about other ethers. Vinyl ether sounds interesting, though it's very unstable and more toxic than diethyl ether. I think it was later combined with diethyl ether to get the best of both. Methyl Propyl ether sounds interesting too, but there's very little information I can find on it. Isopropyl ether is supposedly better than diethyl ether, but I don't think it's been used medically and makes diethyl ether seem like child's play in explosiveness and peroxide formation.

And there's the halogenated ethers. Isoflurane has been abused, and also sevoflurane. Although sevoflurane seems to have caused more deaths. Desflurane is suspected to have decent abuse potential, it's properties are not unlike nitrous oxide. Haven't read any cases of it's abuse or deaths, although that could be because it's not widely used due to an unpleasant taste, smell, lower potency, and higher costs.
 
THC2LSD said:
And there's the halogenated ethers. Isoflurane has been abused, and also sevoflurane. Although sevoflurane seems to have caused more deaths. Desflurane is suspected to have decent abuse potential, it's properties are not unlike nitrous oxide. Haven't read any cases of it's abuse or deaths, although that could be because it's not widely used due to an unpleasant taste, smell, lower potency, and higher costs.
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Those Ethers are still used today in anesthesia after induction to keep the patient under. Isoflurane is mostly used in vets while Sevoflurane and Desflurane are used in hospitals.
 
I used to enjoy ether, I'd often use it and it was a great little sojourn. I preferred it to chloroform, much less hangover. "Fear and Loathing" gave so many kiddies a very false impression of ether. Nothing like as it was portrayed, or described for that matter. Pretty mellow stuff really, no bats, drama, etc. Just a very pleasant all consuming intoxication.

I always used peroxide free ether with my LAH reductions, no worries, burn through the stuff (uh not literally), heheh Id dry my ether for these reactions with LAH itself, no worries there even :D. But anyways, when I got in trouble, the cops carted all of this away, along with everything else, and I found myself wishing during dark nights that these peroxides would be forming,blow the fuckers up. No such luck, although I can't imagine they'd hold on to that sort of thing for long, unfortuntely.
 
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