Ekstasis-//7
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I’ve used Eutylone (N-Ethylbutylone) 3 different times now. I thought I’d post my most recent experience. Overall I’d rate it as quite lack-lustre, even mildly unpleasant. I’ve posted a list of different stimulants and empathogens/entactogens that I’ve tried at the bottom of this report along with my own subjective ranking system in terms of how dysphoric, neutral or how much euphoria they produced for me. If you'd like to know where I'd rate Eutylone compared to other stimulants & empathogens/entactogens I've tried, just go to the bottom of the page.
The first 2 trials of Eutylone it was difficult to tell much is any effects. The first time I tried snorting 50mg. There was not much pain initially but after a few minutes there was quite a painful drip. After struggling with running nose, eyes and a burning throat for approx. 15mins I eventually opted to flush out my sinuses with water and be done with it. It was too difficult to tell if there was actual stimulation from the substance or if it was just agitation and distress from the painful drip that was making my heart go. The second time I tried oral. I don’t remember dose but I think it was 100mg or maybe two staggered doses making 150mg. I slept within roughly 2-2.5hrs so was very disappointed at what seemed like no noticeable effects.
Here’s the trip report for my 3rd time. I opted for an initial dose of 200mg orally. I had eaten 2 hrs before. I had fairly mild anxiety before the experience.
T+00: 200mg in capsules taken orally
T+45mins – 1hr: Heart felt like it was pounding & there was an increase in mild anxiety. It wasn’t too uncomfortable but it wasn’t pleasant. I watched some comedy/drama series to keep my mild off it. Heart rate was averaging 86 BPM.
T+2hrs 30mins – 2hrs 45mins: Felt like my heart wasn’t pounding as bad as before. Anxiety wasn’t as bad either. I had slight tiredness.
T+4hrs 30min: Still felt heart beating more than usual but decided to try and sleep. I went to bed. Had a bulb of nitrous. Was surprised that I actually felt the nitrous quite strongly despite my nitrous tolerance. Then I realised it was probably a synergising effect with the residual Eutylone. I say that because I had these abnormal effects, heart was really pounding much more than normally on nitrous, and I had I had a mild headache and slight queasy stomach. I also didn’t have a relaxed feeling it was like it kicked in some stim anxiety.
T+6hrs 30mins: I woke up from nightmares in a mild sweat. I estimate I’d been asleep for the last 2 or 2.5hrs. I had a mild headache in the top of my head and my heart felt accelerated. I decided to take 7.5mg of diazepam and went back to sleep.
The Next Day: I realised I’d been laying down for 8hrs but it was quite broken sleep. I think there were times I was lying there and not sleeping. At least the nightmares didn’t return but I still had mild headaches at the top of my head and a very mildly queasy stomach. I couldn’t return back to sleep despite been tired form the diazepam. I should mention that I had approx. 2 alcoholic drinks roughly 2hrs prior to taking Eutylone. This may have added to the cause of the headaches but I’m doubtful. Early afternoon and I’m still getting the same mild headaches from the top of my head which is unusual for me.
End of trip report
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Below I’ve listed other stimulants & empathogens/entactogens I’ve tried along with a rough rating system for euphoria according my experiences. The 1st line at the top (Piperazines) were dysphoric and had very nasty side effects, (severe nausea & muscle cramping), the 2nd line (Other) where neutral with no euphoria, the 3rd line (Caffeine & Nicotine) where with some euphoria but with some unpleasant side effects (queasy stomach, anxiety, jittery). The 4th line (plant based) where the somewhere in the middle with Khat being my favourite but still quite mild. 5th Line (Cocaine HCl) I’m not a fan despite it sometimes being euphoric I often get side effects (butterflies in the stomach, anxiety and not wanting to talk). The next few lines (amphetamines) are pretty similar with regular amphetamine, 2-FA & 3-FA being only mildly euphoric but quite strong stimulants. Then next few share similarities with them all being quite euphoric and potent stimulants going from weakest to strongest: 4-FMA then 4-FA then Methametamine. The contrast is the true empathogens/entactogens at the bottom which I’d rate MDMA being the most immersive with 5-MABP being almost identical and bk-MDMA (Methylone) not far behind. I’m not a fan of MDEA, MDA or 6-APB, there just too weird and trippy without the loved up empathy of the MDMA experience (for me anyway). Lastly the synthetic cathinones are somewhere in between euphoric stimulant and empathogen/entactogen for me. The only ones I’d rate where 4-MMC (Mephedrone) and 4-CMC (4-Chloromethcathinone) which are pretty much the same effects for me. 3,4-DMMC had some of these effects but was much weaker.
If I was to rate Eutylone compared to the others I’d say it’s somewhere similar to those on line 2 (Other). I didn’t get any noticeable euphoria, there was noticeable stimulation & side effects weren’t too bad.
P.S. I don't reccomend fluorinatied amphetamines or any other fluorinated compounds for that matter after developing thyroid desease some years ago. Organic molecules that have a flourine attached to the benzene ring maybe safe but comounds like Methoxyflurane the fluorine atom is therorised to break off and hence why it's very toxic and known for fluoride poisoning. All I know is that the older editions of The Merck Index used to list fluoride as a thyroid lowering medication and I found out from expert doctors/endocrinologists that fluorine and bromine competes with iodine for the thyroid gland so I don't mess with anything containing a fluorine or bromone atom on it these days just to be safe. I've been taking milligram doses of iodine daily for years now along with water free from fluoride and my last thyroid ultrasound looked great!
THE LIST
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Piprazines: Piprazine Pills (Reagent Tested Fake Ecstasy) (Most likely TFMPP & BZP)
Other: 1,3-DMBA Citrate, Propylhexedrine, 2-DPMP, Modafinil, Hydrafinil
Caffeine, Nicotine
Plant based: Cacao Tea (Caffeine), Ephedra (Ephedrine), Khat tea (Cathinone), Coca Tea (Cocaine),
Cocaine HCl,
Adderall (3:1 ratio of dextroamphetamine to levoamphetamine), Dexadrine (Dexamphetamine)
Synthetic Cathinones: Butylone, MDPV, 3,4-DMMC (3,4-Dimethylmethcathinone)
4-MMC (Mephedrone), 4-CMC (4-Chloromethcathinone)
Fluorinated Amphetamines: 3-FA, 2-FA, 4-FA, 4-FMA
Methamphetamine,
Empathogens/Entactogens: MDEA, MDA, 6-ABP
bk-MDMA (Methylone), 5-MAPB
MDMA
The first 2 trials of Eutylone it was difficult to tell much is any effects. The first time I tried snorting 50mg. There was not much pain initially but after a few minutes there was quite a painful drip. After struggling with running nose, eyes and a burning throat for approx. 15mins I eventually opted to flush out my sinuses with water and be done with it. It was too difficult to tell if there was actual stimulation from the substance or if it was just agitation and distress from the painful drip that was making my heart go. The second time I tried oral. I don’t remember dose but I think it was 100mg or maybe two staggered doses making 150mg. I slept within roughly 2-2.5hrs so was very disappointed at what seemed like no noticeable effects.
Here’s the trip report for my 3rd time. I opted for an initial dose of 200mg orally. I had eaten 2 hrs before. I had fairly mild anxiety before the experience.
T+00: 200mg in capsules taken orally
T+45mins – 1hr: Heart felt like it was pounding & there was an increase in mild anxiety. It wasn’t too uncomfortable but it wasn’t pleasant. I watched some comedy/drama series to keep my mild off it. Heart rate was averaging 86 BPM.
T+2hrs 30mins – 2hrs 45mins: Felt like my heart wasn’t pounding as bad as before. Anxiety wasn’t as bad either. I had slight tiredness.
T+4hrs 30min: Still felt heart beating more than usual but decided to try and sleep. I went to bed. Had a bulb of nitrous. Was surprised that I actually felt the nitrous quite strongly despite my nitrous tolerance. Then I realised it was probably a synergising effect with the residual Eutylone. I say that because I had these abnormal effects, heart was really pounding much more than normally on nitrous, and I had I had a mild headache and slight queasy stomach. I also didn’t have a relaxed feeling it was like it kicked in some stim anxiety.
T+6hrs 30mins: I woke up from nightmares in a mild sweat. I estimate I’d been asleep for the last 2 or 2.5hrs. I had a mild headache in the top of my head and my heart felt accelerated. I decided to take 7.5mg of diazepam and went back to sleep.
The Next Day: I realised I’d been laying down for 8hrs but it was quite broken sleep. I think there were times I was lying there and not sleeping. At least the nightmares didn’t return but I still had mild headaches at the top of my head and a very mildly queasy stomach. I couldn’t return back to sleep despite been tired form the diazepam. I should mention that I had approx. 2 alcoholic drinks roughly 2hrs prior to taking Eutylone. This may have added to the cause of the headaches but I’m doubtful. Early afternoon and I’m still getting the same mild headaches from the top of my head which is unusual for me.
End of trip report
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Below I’ve listed other stimulants & empathogens/entactogens I’ve tried along with a rough rating system for euphoria according my experiences. The 1st line at the top (Piperazines) were dysphoric and had very nasty side effects, (severe nausea & muscle cramping), the 2nd line (Other) where neutral with no euphoria, the 3rd line (Caffeine & Nicotine) where with some euphoria but with some unpleasant side effects (queasy stomach, anxiety, jittery). The 4th line (plant based) where the somewhere in the middle with Khat being my favourite but still quite mild. 5th Line (Cocaine HCl) I’m not a fan despite it sometimes being euphoric I often get side effects (butterflies in the stomach, anxiety and not wanting to talk). The next few lines (amphetamines) are pretty similar with regular amphetamine, 2-FA & 3-FA being only mildly euphoric but quite strong stimulants. Then next few share similarities with them all being quite euphoric and potent stimulants going from weakest to strongest: 4-FMA then 4-FA then Methametamine. The contrast is the true empathogens/entactogens at the bottom which I’d rate MDMA being the most immersive with 5-MABP being almost identical and bk-MDMA (Methylone) not far behind. I’m not a fan of MDEA, MDA or 6-APB, there just too weird and trippy without the loved up empathy of the MDMA experience (for me anyway). Lastly the synthetic cathinones are somewhere in between euphoric stimulant and empathogen/entactogen for me. The only ones I’d rate where 4-MMC (Mephedrone) and 4-CMC (4-Chloromethcathinone) which are pretty much the same effects for me. 3,4-DMMC had some of these effects but was much weaker.
If I was to rate Eutylone compared to the others I’d say it’s somewhere similar to those on line 2 (Other). I didn’t get any noticeable euphoria, there was noticeable stimulation & side effects weren’t too bad.
P.S. I don't reccomend fluorinatied amphetamines or any other fluorinated compounds for that matter after developing thyroid desease some years ago. Organic molecules that have a flourine attached to the benzene ring maybe safe but comounds like Methoxyflurane the fluorine atom is therorised to break off and hence why it's very toxic and known for fluoride poisoning. All I know is that the older editions of The Merck Index used to list fluoride as a thyroid lowering medication and I found out from expert doctors/endocrinologists that fluorine and bromine competes with iodine for the thyroid gland so I don't mess with anything containing a fluorine or bromone atom on it these days just to be safe. I've been taking milligram doses of iodine daily for years now along with water free from fluoride and my last thyroid ultrasound looked great!
THE LIST
-----------------
Piprazines: Piprazine Pills (Reagent Tested Fake Ecstasy) (Most likely TFMPP & BZP)
Other: 1,3-DMBA Citrate, Propylhexedrine, 2-DPMP, Modafinil, Hydrafinil
Caffeine, Nicotine
Plant based: Cacao Tea (Caffeine), Ephedra (Ephedrine), Khat tea (Cathinone), Coca Tea (Cocaine),
Cocaine HCl,
Adderall (3:1 ratio of dextroamphetamine to levoamphetamine), Dexadrine (Dexamphetamine)
Synthetic Cathinones: Butylone, MDPV, 3,4-DMMC (3,4-Dimethylmethcathinone)
4-MMC (Mephedrone), 4-CMC (4-Chloromethcathinone)
Fluorinated Amphetamines: 3-FA, 2-FA, 4-FA, 4-FMA
Methamphetamine,
Empathogens/Entactogens: MDEA, MDA, 6-ABP
bk-MDMA (Methylone), 5-MAPB
MDMA
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