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European Heroin Discussion v We like noise, it's our choice (v.17)

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I love the way the people push the myths that taking drugs is the easy option in life. It's very difficult running a habit a home and a job. here's to stuff getting easier. I am beginnig to change my mind set slowly but surely.

I didn't do anything this weekeend but feel as though i am suffering post st patrick's day kinda feelings. Having a little smoke now. i really don't love it like I used to.
 
got me some oxy;s tday so that will fuck up my tapering schedule but fuck it now im use to the high (it takes a while to appreciate them a bit like coke when you first start on that - powder) i love the critters just gotta wait 2 weeks for some cash to get some of the best food ive come across .
gotta me careful cos i left myself with just enough phy tabs to taper down on till i get the gear.
My doc fucked up last time he scrioted me 21 5mg valium so to make up for it he gave me 28x10mg and 28x5mg so harsd to keep my hands off these - gonna do a week on and a week off if i can but im already doing 20-25mg where i would normally do 10-15mg with a bottle of wine....so i will break opwn the claret and pop a blue.
later folks
@ructs did u here of the 3 bikers?
 
Is a 40mg oxy going to do that much, looking at oral conversion to codeine it on 400mg, which is fuck all. Or does it being sniffed means its going to worth it? 400mg codeine would do fuck all to me.
 
brimz said:
I clocked that as well Cornish

Have you ever had Fent b4 ?
It's nothing at all like Heroin . No Euphoria . I've had it Gel Patches , Normal ones & Injectable . I would leave it well alone . It also sounds like a recipe for an overdose

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I don't dislike Fentanyl . It took me ages & several patches to make it work for me though . It's very difficult to judge & cos of it's strength i always was cautious . I know how to get what i want from it now but we are all diff erent so what works for me might not for you .
I'd love a couple of patches right now after chatting about it !
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Haha, great minds eh Brimz.

Yeah I had a patch a while back but didn't get anything recreational off it.
Prob gonna give it a miss and stick to what I already know.
 
Ponti- glad your ok brother!!! Having experienced several OD's- one of my friends was chipping and wanted to try the needle- said well if you gonna might as well do a speedball. Spiked him and asked how does it feel- he said "good' then promptly I dont feel dood and then started seizing a few seconds later. I was living in a house with 8 other roomates and I was one of 2 heroin addict. Well I called 911 and he stoped seizing so I hung up after 1 ring. Usually they send out the cops and paramedicts but they didn't in my case for some inexpicable reason. Then he started seizing again. But that quickly resolved. I had nightmares of him dead at the bottom of our ghetto swimming pool for weeks but he was ok.

The other main heroin addict, Mathias, died of an overdose in like 2003. I feel some guilt. We were both clean, I relapsed, went to his birthday. We stayed in touch (in the SF Bay Area)- he got into a motorcycle accident, I introduced him to my connection for dope- the vicodin sparked the craving- he copped for a bit but then went to his connect in Santa Cruz, CA. They found him dead at his favorite surf spott with a needle in his arm. Fucking shame he was one of my very best friends.

Found out about it a year later- our mutually friend yiannis, told me about it a year later when we randomely ran into each other when i moved back to SD. So i got the details. That explained his cell phone being off line... Anyway I was close enough to him that i was gonna ask him to be my best man when i got married... My trip to Oregon with him is chronicled somewhere on this thread I think...

So be safe ponti- your dope is probably not smokable but snort it if you are gonna do it- practice harm reduction. Your a cool dude and have a young wife and your whole life ahead of you. And Thailand is a scarry place to be using dope... abstinece is the best option. I have been off dope for 3 weeks- tappered rapidly with street methadone but I took up drinking and now I'm a bloated cunt- EtOH is a far worse drug but easier to be fuctional given the price of H (was getting ripped off). But atleast I didn't have to cross the border like alot of the youth to hook up at the great open market that is Tijuana- albeit dangerous.

Anyway, was checking in with my European Brothers and Sisters. Being St Patty's day recently and watching Trainspoting thought of you.

The dope I was getting was good- knock your dick in the dirt to use the old school CA dopefiend expression- and that's from smoking.

But I would imagine if you survive the dangers of using in Thailand provided you survive, and getting caught, pale in comparison. In Mexico amnesty is for sale at historically bargain prices- free market- justice for at bottom basement prices.

But that border sucks!!!

Paid alot to get it on this side of the border and didn't use long enough to get a proper connect- some sketchy times one involving getting tailed amd my midlleman jumping out of the car as i turned the corner in downtown sd cause he had warrants. By some act of God i didn't get pulled over... some other poor bastard did, i got on the highway, came back and parked but couldn't enter his house cause the cops had stopped someone outside and it was an hour before he was cuffed and his car towed. then i forgot where I parked in the confusion- thought my car got jacked...finally found my car and left 5 hours later. Was nodding at the wheel at 4 AM on my 45 minute drive home.

Are people from Glasgow " soap dogers" (from the book)? I know I am- especially when i'm using.

Anyway my laptop don't work so I have to go to public spots.

I was talking to a friend about this thread and how I'm like the tolken yank that haunts it from time to time. The context was the troubles. I told him that what surmounts the tension between the British and the Irish is there shared hatred for the USA. So finally we're doing our part to promote world peace...lol!!!

Ultimately we are all brothers and sisters, regardless of ethicity or nationality, vicitms of this 100 year "war on drugs" and ideally comrades in the worldwide resistance to end this war without end.

Hang in there Ponti!!!

Comrades be safe and well!

ps I liked IV fentanyl- and it doesn't show up on conventional drug screens.
 
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^No offense but you told someone who wanted to try out IV H that he 'may as well do a speedball'?! That's fucking irresponsible/dangerous man.
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wcote said:
Is a 40mg oxy going to do that much, looking at oral conversion to codeine it on 400mg, which is fuck all. Or does it being sniffed means its going to worth it? 400mg codeine would do fuck all to me.
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With no tolerance you'll feel it and most likely enjoy but don't expect too many bells and whistles. Is one of me fave opis but you need quite a lot to really enjoy (ime, imo, etc, etc). If you can get 'em cheap then go for it though.

In fent news, I find it mostly a bit meh but wouldn't kick it out of bed too hard. Only ever smoked and sublingual'd it though. Don't think I'd go near shooting it unless I was extremely sure of what I was doing. Actually, I just don't think I'd bother. Not got the veins for it and it's over in a flash anyway. Poppycrack is fent.

Jspun said:
Are people from Glasgow " soap dogers" (from the book)? I know I am- especially when i'm using.
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Bwahahahahahahaha! Kinda depends on which bit of Scotland you're from, I suspect. I've yet to meet a Scot who doesn't have a fine line in insults to aim at every other part of Scotland. I've definitely heard "soap dodgers" from one of me old smack dealers though (who was from Dundee, I think - who are "sheep shaggers" I think... although that one seems fairly universal). Meh. They're all sweaty socks to me anyway ;)=D<3
 
i cant wait for the oxy train to come round, i hope its not faR, i heard it's whistle not too long ago :D
 
No Pagey you are completely right, that is fucking irresponsible.

I'll not bother, not cheap enough.
 
Forgot to add that I wouldn't read too much into that codeine conversion, Wcote. 40mg of oxy feels fuck all like 400mg of codeine. Oxy is very euphoric and speedy. The nods come later and it's nowhere near as itchy as codeine is. There's good reason why folk <3 it but it's definitely a bit overrated. Not as overrated as fent, mind. I'd happily give up all other opi's for a decent oxy script but only cos it just happens to tick all my boxes really - it's an outstanding painkiller (at least it is for me) lasts a decent length of time and is just very enjoyable to be on in general (which is not always the case for opis - methadone being a prime example). I also love the energy - really suits my lethargic arse. And who doesn't like euphoria? :D

It's insanely overpriced though. If I had to pay US prices ($/mg 8() then I'd never bother. If ya happen to know anybody with a script for it willing to part with a few for a reasonable recompense they're well worth it though.
 
When you say fuck all like 400mg of codeine, you mean a lot better?

I'm guessing so! Well I might try a couple then. See how it goes.
 
^Yeah, the oxy high is much more stimulating than the codeine one (I get super talkative on them) and the nod isn't as deep and sedating IMO. And well it just makes you really euphoric.
And yeah, as Shambles said it's not as itchy ;)

I'm getting some tomorrow as well actually <3
 
Guess I just going to have to try it out..... Oh no! =D

Shambles, podging gear is quite good, deffo worth it, I waited few mins was like wtf, then ooooooh. recommend giving it a whirl, just don't have a smoke beforehand like I did, I could rate that initial rush..... But I'd bet it be good!
 
Thanks for the update - seems like it may be my only real option for enjoying gear again. I have no intentions of ever getting back to habitual use but it is a very nice drug and a shame to not be able to enjoy once in a while. Have mixed experience of chasing. I quite like it for auld times' sake but it's so very wasteful and just never comes close to giving a proper smacky rush :(
 
I smoke it with a pipe and gauze, now that gives you a good old rush. Way better than off foil, my technique with foil is fine, but it just does not give nearly as good as rush as with a pipe and gauze, well there is a technique to it, its not as simple as just putting gear on top a lighting it and inhaling, few tricks to make sure you don't burn it.

I know people say its a direct flame it will destroy it. But its not that simple.

I'll give 'instruction' on how to do it properly another time.

But keep it in mind, its far superior to foil. You just cannot get big enough hits with foil.
 
Pagey said:
^No offense but you told someone who wanted to try out IV H that he 'may as well do a speedball'?! That's fucking irresponsible/dangerous man.
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No offense, but he was just telling a story. There's no way JSpun was bragging and Im absolutely positive that he or anyone else dont need lecturing that what he did was irresponsible :\

Morning folks. Went to bed craving gear and now woke up waiting for half 8 to come so I can go score. Since the gears been better and Ive been using daily on top of my reduced meth I reckon I might have a wee bit of discomfort when I stop. I much preferred the old days before I met my local connect, when I had to drive 6 hours round to score my quarter at a time, use for 2 weeks then have a week or two off. Everyone told me I was mad but it worked for me; I also hadnt smoked crack for years. Now Im back to using daily, and my clinic never wanna see me so I dont even have to get clean for piss tests now :|

Mind you, when the drugs are acceptable the only thing that pisses me off is the cost. If I was single again I might consider travelling for a year, Israel, Thailand, Burma, Myanmar etc, India (maybe), Columbia, the States in no particular order. Have a good day muckers
 
Aghani' Heroin that's WHITE!!!!

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http://en.rian.ru/world/20130312/179959947/Over-20-Tons-of-Heroin-Seized-in-Afghanistan.html

Now I know this was apparently going to Russia but if it was why's it white, do they cut it brown along the way to Europe or do they sell Heroin #4 (Snortable and Injectable without cooking up) to Russia and certain Asian states and brown Heroin #3 (Diamorphine Freebase, smokeable, needs to be 'cooked up' to make it injectable.) to Europe?
 
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