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European Heroin Discussion v We like noise, it's our choice (v.17)

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Yeah same. I really don't get it, it's not as if it's an attractive look...

I'd like to smoke it but considering I live in student halls I really don't think it's a good idea. It'd be very unlikely but there'd always be the possibility someone next door recognises the smell - or I accidentally set off the fire alarms and they'd look for the source and find it in my room. :\
I know I've got to stop using needles. Well I know I've got to stop altogether, which is what I'm trying to do. Honestly 2.5 days without, well today's the 4th day with only one shot in total, is the best I've done in about two months so as I see it I am making progess. It's slow, but it's progress :)

But yes, I'm definitely relying on it too much to deal with the depression. Anyway, I'm on the right track atm so let's just hope it continues like this :)
 
i use to self medicate uswing H for depression and founf that even jusy knowing that i was getting some in a week or so would hold thye black dog at bay.
 
I'm currently on Day 15 without the gear. Dental appointment on the 23rd, though, so I probably will want to get a score in then. It will also be the wrong end of Between Paydays, and this is going to be an expensive month for another, unrelated reason as well. So I will just have to try to get the money together in advance for that.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss it, but can't deny the break is doing me some good.
 
Cornishman said:
This is my 2nd day free from H.

Wouldn't be able to do it without meth though.

Now all I need is a full time job to give me some focus and structure.
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Well done mate, good start. Good luck on getting a full time job tho 8)

And well done Julie n everyone else who's trying to stop, if thats what makes you happy in the long run. Me, the only reason I would want to stop is to stop wasting my hard earned on something that isn't worth the amount I pay for it. If the gear was back to how it was a few years back or better, I'd quite happily plod along running my business working full time and using a few times a day. I wouldnt need money for too much else part from eating, clothes occasionally and a bit spare etc, thats all.
 
So wat a lucky cunmt i am found thisw licle vein on my lH ii said about it tother day well managed to get it salt nighy thats 3-4 timew total i think but just now i couldnt get it - toyrnied it twistede me arm reied it all no luck so thoouth id hve a dig around any way thyen i thouhgjt if i got one this side why not my right hand so thought i found it poked it in 2-3 times and started to make a mess -last thing i want for the missis ti see so i tried the other arm again poked about 2-3 ties trying to keep the needle still in ti minimise damage and blow me up came that wonderful plume of blood so im well happy - it wont last i now that but a couple of days of jabbing is cool and i see it as a sign to not go for the fem after alll
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Cornishman said:
This is my 2nd day free from H.

Wouldn't be able to do it without meth though.

Now all I need is a full time job to give me some focus and structure.
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Congrats! Meth or no meth, that's definitely something. Keep it up :)
I'm on day 5 with only one shot in total, starting to feel really sick again but *I can do this, I can do this*
 
Thanks pap n page.

Tis my 3rd day now. :D
The only thing that sucks is not having anyone to socialize with. All my non heroin using friends have left the county and/or country.

Would go nuts if it weren't for BL.

Being one of the few people with a car I sometimes get called up to 'go on a mission' and get sorted drugs for doing it.
I'm unable to turn it down because I have nothing else to do.

This is why I desperately need some structure. It's enough to make anyone lose the plot being unemployed.

At least 10 years ago you could sit around and get stoned all day.
Now weed costs the same. If not more than gold itself.
Madness.


+Congrats too pagey on hitting day 5.
You must be over that dreaded hill. Well done!
 
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Yay! :D
You managing to deal with the sickness okay ?

I get what you mean about needing structure. I find that even just the tiniest things help, like, say, at 3 pm every day you go for an hour-long walk. At 4 you read a book for 2 hours. Dumb examples but you know what I mean, it could help distract you while you're looking for a job.
 
Cheers pagey.

The meth works v well so I don't really notice any WD's.
Feel bad tho, I relapsed since my post earlier.

Not really my fault. It's just impossible to say no when you're being offered a hit for free.

This is why I desperately need a job.

Good on ya for keeping up the good work.
Once I start working I'll be joining your ranks! :)
 
blondin said:
the Blondin rapid detox is a no brainer..... need to be on just gear for at least a month with no methadone then a 2 weelk rapid detox starting at 70mgs (asssuming 'normaltype of habit of good gear .5 or so) dropping by 5mg a day till 10mg then pm me if you want the fdinish - i have posted here before and done it loads of times myself
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It works too, I've tried it - or at least a version of it. I'll need to do it properly next week though as my initial attempt was half arsed, then my mate got banged up and left me with a 1/2 8th to either sell or smoke so I ended up fucking smoking the damn thing. Blondin you should post it in the aforementioned thread if you haven't done so already. It works a treat and its painless, and not even relatively so either - just painless. At worst all I endured was anxiety towards the lower doses, but benzos will counter that. Marijuana too for some folk, but not at all for myself - it exacerbates my anxiety 10 fold and I begin to think my entire existence is, was and ever shall be a fucking shambles.

EDIT: Just had to pick up a garden gate for a mate a few minutes ago, said if I stash it off for him until morning I can take myself a nice .25 out of it. How the fuck does he expect me to properly manage to take out a .25 without a damn scales...ah well, tried my best anyway. Took a picture of what I took out of it anyway for proof, but he's a decent skin - wouldnt be any agro if it was much over.

Not the nicest - I mean fuck it, it'll do and all it cost was a walk as far as the local chippy. Dark tan, first line sizzles and wastes away but afterwards its not too bad. Bit of a sweet taste to it which I always consider a bad sign but meh - what do you want for nothing. Will smoke most of it while I browse about for an hour, keep a few linears for the mammys day dinner tomorrow after-fucking-noon...
 
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When I'm at a PC I'll go explain more of plugging gear. Was quit good, just shouldn't have had a smoke first, as that initial rush was gone. Still was good old kick.
 
I know its abit strange to ask seeing how nasty methadone is to get off. But how does one work around getting on methadone? I've got a chronic pain condition and self medicated with hard narcotics and benzos ( oxy, fent heroin etc) for a couple of years which my docs know about now, so Im never seeing any proper medicine. My thought is maybe try to get on methadone so I am at least on some form of pain medication but everyones telling me I got to start using heroin again or something.
 
Methadone ain't great from my experience, subutex is better than Methadone.

Not much more I can think to say!
 
arent subs usually for quite a shift detox?. Methadone isn't particularly recreational without benzos or cyclizine but it is a really good painkiller in my experience.
 
well, you don't have to get on heroin as such. just make sure that you have heroin in your system when they test you. say if you turn up and tell them that you're addicted to heroin, they test you for heroin you got none in yer system you look like yer just tryin to et a load of green for someone else or that you just want the meth. so present yourself, have your addiction story all ready and some reasons fro wanting to be on a meth maintanence script. so you don't have to have a full blown a habit, just have it in yer system.
 
Subutex (buperenorphine) was originally only used as a painkiller (brandname Temgesic) and still is. The doses are a lot lower then when it's used for maintanence though. And it is used for lomgterm maintanence of addicts as well as for tapering.

That aside, we really can't advise you how to get on a methadone script for pain management. On rather iffy ground there. But I can tell you you won't get on methadone maintanence without having a heroin habit.

PP: Isn't it normally more than just havin heroin show up in a piss test? Would also involve making up a whole backstory when you see the support workers surely? It no doubt varies around the country but the ones I've been to require regular (weekly) meetings with a support worker and also regular pisstests.
 
Never heard the track marks thing and doesn't really make sense as plenty peeps have a chasing habit. I do know I wasn't just scripted methadone straight off the bat. Needed a referral from me GP initially but that's probably not the same everywhere. I'd've thought having some level of history of use noted somewhere (if only having gone into the local DSP place and spoken to a support worker (or whatever they call 'em where you are)) would be fairly minimal requirements most places though but may be wrong cos has been a while since I was on a 'done script.
 
jeez, i can't remember. Now i come to think of it i've had a meth script that long i can't remember getting it. I don't think you have to keep turning up on a weekly basis and testing +ve for meth though. i started on dfs, then stopped treatment, then went onto subbies, came out of treatment, then got pxed meth but i was actually giving that to someone else. anytime i've missed pick up they always test me for either or before they reinstate it. never had to show track marks.
 
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