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instead of wasting £ on heroin (that is good quality :) ) I am going to take myself on a date to see django on my day off work... :)

Hi Pinky! :) How are you? Are you feeling better to-day? Before the drought I used heroin daily so I always felt fine once I had gear. When the drought hit I stopped using altogether coz there was only pure bash around. But over the last year the gear has improved, so I'm now in the habit of using gear for 4/5 days and then staying off it for 9/10 days so that I can pass the drugs test that I do once every two weeks.

As a result I have felt really awful through-out the last year when I'm not using heroin, I'm permanently in 9/10 days of withdrawals even though I take 60mls of methadone daily. :( I thought that the methadone wasn't holding me, I ALWAYS feel awful! :(

But now I've been off the gear just over 3 weeks (I stayed off for a while before xmas as well) and I feel great! :) I reckon the reason why I normally feel so bad is because I use for 4/5 days and then it takes the 9/10 days for the gear to leave my system. Then just as I'm starting to feel better I use gear again, it goes around and around! 8(

The only reason that I haven't scored lately is coz I'm totally broke, if I had the cash I'd be using now! But I realise that it is all or nothing with gear, coz using the way I have been using the last years leaves me in constant withdrawals.

So if your getting those awful withdrawal feeling don't worry, it will pass over the next few days once the gear leaves your system and once you take methadone.

Its the cravings that I find IMPOSSIBLE to control! I am tortured with cravings!!!! As sooooooon as I have some spare cash I'll be scoring!!!! Roll on pay day!
 
methadone starts to saturate receptors at 40mg upwards. i found 60mg and up would reduce the high from gear greatly.

Ditto!! I'm currently on 60mg and as Blondin sez, it really IS like pissing in the wind! Even when gear was half decent, it did virtually fuck all for me - especially when I had to go back to smoking :X Therefore it was just a 'habit', rather than an addiction to gear. The big drought brought me to my senses and I realised I was just wasting money for the sake of it. Now I want to become a full time pot smoker again, because it really is the BEST drug out there for full time use...
 
I get cravings but if I know Im getting gear in a week or a few days etc then they are controllable. I haven't had a smoke for a week or so and have now dropped from 60mg to 10mg of 'done over a two week period I wont be able to score till next week but im cool with it as I have taken a couple of days off and will have a couple of weeks back on the gear till the money rushes out (thats weird I was meant to write 'runs' out)
 
I just scored from a new source, cost me a extra £5 for a bag sadly.

This is very strange gear tbh, it is very like brick dust colour & has weird little black bits in that have run into the gear.
It runs perfect & all the weird black bits have also gone but has a strange chemical taste, the guy rang me 5 mins ago to ask what I throught & said about these bits of black, he says it was in the whole batch but it is nothing to worry about.

This is the most bizarre bag I have ever had tbh, anyone else seen this black bit gear around?
I am based Birmingham ways btw
 
Yeah I saw that down here a few months ago (the summer I think) was strangely excellent. But I defo remember black bits

I am tooting today as my arms are a real mess atm.

I had 7 lines so far & got a bit of a itch but nothing major but I still got most of it left, you say it's good gear backroll?..........
 
Been waking up at 4-5am to take my methadone as being doing a rapid taper over two weeks today i only took 5mg down from 10mg yesterday and so far so good if it doesnt come on top i will try 2.5 tomorrow and nothing the next - trouble is , its all a bit pointless as i will be doshed up next week and have a 2-3 week binge on gear but as an experiment its interesting as normally i dont go below 10mg.
 
So I take it that most places around UK still hit and miss then. I wonder how long it will be until everyone on here can say they can get good proper gear all the time from whichever dealer they go to.
 
Yeah mate, I started this with a thread called 'Drought with nasty H' : http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/535073-drought-with-nasty-H in 2010. I never realised just how widespread the problem was at that time. and to be honest I don't think things are back to normal yet! OK, there may be some decent gear around again, but the prices seem to have been permanently inflated due to it. Actually, it's done me good because I've now come to my senses and (almost) stopped buying gear. So now I have the benefit of rose tinted specs where I can bang on about how good it was in the old days.. =D

Oh! It was you! Fantastic. I remember scoring for a couple of days in Oct 2010 (I think it was then) and every time it was this weird, horrible gear that did nothing. Ran really fast on the foil, left no trail, tasted chemically like tcp. Every dealer had it and I had no idea what was going on. Out of desperation I just tapped "Weird tasting smack" into google and your thread came up at the top! It was then I found out that my problems were more than just an isolated event and that you, and lots of others, had been having the same problems. I think at that time, though, there was still only about six or seven of us that had posted about it within a couple of weeks there were 10 of thousand of posts about it, on here and on other sites/forums. Wasn't it a weird time? I've been doing gear well over 20 years so I've seen droughts come and go and I'd never experienced anything like this. I've told people who stopped using before the 2010+ drought and they always say and think the same: "well, I could have scored". And I'm like, "no you fucking couldn't, no body could score. Even the guys with dozens and dozens of numbers, that ones you go to when you're really stuck yourself, they couldn't find a dealer with anything other than a load of old bash".
I had enough after a few weeks of it and had a chance to head over to the states so I took it. I scored over there easy enough although they were having problems themselves with the new Oxy formula which you can't crush and snort/fix like the old Oxys. And their black tar is weak compared to out good skag. Mind you, anything was fixing me at that stage because the gear had been so crap in the UK. I came back a month or so later and I was expecting the drought to be over and it was *still* the same, worse if anything. I was spending £100-£200 a day on bags of gears that did *nothing* but I couldn't stop the white (which I usually never do without dark) and I was getting crazier and crazier. It was like I knew the chances were that I was just going to buy more bash but I couldn't stop myself. I couldn't get a script for anything other than DFs and Librium, for complex reasons, and I was sick all the time, in spite of the money I was spending! In the end I thought, fuck it, being clean has got to better than this shit. So I stopped using and stayed clean for a couple of years. I got the urge to have a snowball after seeing someone shoot one up in a documentary I was watching. Man, that image really got inside me... I couldn't shake it and within the week I'd decided that I *had* to have a snowball. I hunted down an old 'mate' (actually wanker) who I got to score for me and you know what? The gear was good. The white was OK too. I didn't shoot a snowball because I lost my bottle at the last minute (or saw sense, whichever way you want to look at it). But I thought, "the gear is back to normal". When I post the post above which you quoted, I thought that it was all cushty again. Not so: you're totally right, aren't you? The first couple of bags were good, light brown hard packed rock smack. Then I got some which was like tar, but crap. The last few days it's been this dark brown, slightly damp powder which sorts you out but I have to smoke 0.5 fast to get a nod, which isn't right; I've only been back on about 10 days and have hardly got a habit.

So... I don't know why I writing this. I think I just want some company. My wife and kids don't know I've started using again, nor do any friends or other family. No one knows, apart from you, and you don't know me. Actually, the one wanker that I'm scoring through knows and he's the only one. It feels weird. I've got used to being open about what I do and I don't really like all the secrecy. Was it worth it, going back on the gear? I was tempted back in by the thought of that snowball but in the end I lost my bottle when I thought about the possible OD that might follow. I love my kids and I don't want them to have to live without a dad. So I've kind of chucked it all in for the sake of a few smokes of crappy dark and mediocre white... I feel a bit short changed, might stop again. Wonder if I can?

Loads of people down South have thrown the towel in because of this drought but in the last two years I've also never known so many people I know to die of drugs related deaths. It's weird: I'm not sure why it's happening. They seem to be dropping like flies. Sad.

Does anyone who used through the drought actually think it's totally back to normal in their town?

F.U.B.A.R.: really thanks for posting that original 'drought with nasty H' thread! I would have gone totally nuts if it weren't for finding that thread at the time!
 
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Pontifex , yeah man i remember your zolpidem shot calamity!
I rarely do an i.m shot & when i do i use the right needle, minimal vit-c, swab the injection sight with an alcohol swab, jab it in deep then aspirate by pulling back on the plunger to be sure there's no blood.

Had what my friend called "bangin gear" that was supposed to be just as good ad what had before x-mas but it was nowhere near as good & if it was from the same batch it must have been stepped on heavily. Still got a little rush though. @ yeah AGAIN i could not hit a vein with those horrird little insulin pins (29g). So today i picked up some 25g's & had a small shot (???
 
Hey doppelganga,not seen you about for quite a while, thought you'd left or been put in nick or something.
 
EASY TIGERS.....

Gear scene round me is looking rather good just now ,got 2 fella's both really wanting my custom ,so i can play them off price wise, im kind of sticking with one though, as he drops, off to me without me even asking him to.
but both gear is fucking lovely . ( HONESTLY) ,not like it was 3 years ago,but by far the best yet, it does what its meant to and im not smoking a teenth to get stoned.
A Q is lasting a few days (as it should ) its hard as fuck, smells wicked,and gives you that lovely full throaty taste,you know that happy content feeling after 4 runs on the trot when the smokes bursting out and your trying so hard to keep it in .
well im playing that game constantly , and the Mrs thinks im fucking nuts ,but i couldn't be happier.

i really hope you guys are half as happy as me,cause the gear world can be a fucking great place (can also be a hell hole) LOL.
 
I can only get my hands on weak as shit stuff, cheap but nothing like when i started :(, aint got the energy to shop around at the moment either
 
My laptop packed it in a few months back & i had a hiatus from alcohol & opiates for like 3 months also. The only drugs i did were temazepam for sleep & high grade marijuana. Then i tapered down from 55mg of methadone to 20 & switched to 4mg of suboxone, which although it kept me away from opiates better than methadone, gave me side effects like insomnia, headches, nausea & basically no "satisfaction".

So early december i got back onto methadone 20ml up to 30 & now i'm at 25ml & oft potentiate this with coffee, amitriptyline (Elavil) & Valium & or Temazepam. Not daily with the benzos though. With those i've been going thru 20/30 10mg Temazepam & 14/28 5mg Diazepam per month. This is mainly down to the fact that i've stopped taking prescribed & illicit opiate painkillers & i'm reducing the meth. However ill take a few benzos with an illicit high dose of methadone ( 70ml ontop of my scripted 25ml )

Btw Blondin, i dont take the high dose of meth if using Heroin. In fact when i do have a sesh i try to do it earlier in the day so i can get my dose later at about 5 or 6 pm

P.S got some 25 gauge pins to try out next week instead.

I'll chevk back im to update how the gear is & how smooth things go with the 25g instead og those horrid insulin 29g or those huge blues (23g i think they are)

Goodnight Bluelight
 
I did 1 5mg tab of 'done yesterday and one today .....alll good 2 week detox is the way to go been at work the whole time and sleeping like a baby no w/d's at all 70-5mg in 2 weeks
 
Oh! It was you! Fantastic. I remember scoring for a couple of days in Oct 2010 (I think it was then) and every time it was this weird, horrible gear that did nothing. Ran really fast on the foil, left no trail, tasted chemically like tcp. Every dealer had it and I had no idea what was going on. Out of desperation I just tapped "Weird tasting smack" into google and your thread came up at the top! It was then I found out that my problems were more than just an isolated event and that you, and lots of others, had been having the same problems. I think at that time, though, there was still only about six or seven of us that had posted about it within a couple of weeks there were 10 of thousand of posts about it, on here and on other sites/forums. Wasn't it a weird time? I've been doing gear well over 20 years so I've seen droughts come and go and I'd never experienced anything like this. I've told people who stopped using before the 2010+ drought and they always say and think the same: "well, I could have scored". And I'm like, "no you fucking couldn't, no body could score. Even the guys with dozens and dozens of numbers, that ones you go to when you're really stuck yourself, they couldn't find a dealer with anything other than a load of old bash".
I had enough after a few weeks of it and had a chance to head over to the states so I took it. I scored over there easy enough although they were having problems themselves with the new Oxy formula which you can't crush and snort/fix like the old Oxys. And their black tar is weak compared to out good skag. Mind you, anything was fixing me at that stage because the gear had been so crap in the UK. I came back a month or so later and I was expecting the drought to be over and it was *still* the same, worse if anything. I was spending £100-£200 a day on bags of gears that did *nothing* but I couldn't stop the white (which I usually never do without dark) and I was getting crazier and crazier. It was like I knew the chances were that I was just going to buy more bash but I couldn't stop myself. I couldn't get a script for anything other than DFs and Librium, for complex reasons, and I was sick all the time, in spite of the money I was spending! In the end I thought, fuck it, being clean has got to better than this shit. So I stopped using and stayed clean for a couple of years. I got the urge to have a snowball after seeing someone shoot one up in a documentary I was watching. Man, that image really got inside me... I couldn't shake it and within the week I'd decided that I *had* to have a snowball. I hunted down an old 'mate' (actually wanker) who I got to score for me and you know what? The gear was good. The white was OK too. I didn't shoot a snowball because I lost my bottle at the last minute (or saw sense, whichever way you want to look at it). But I thought, "the gear is back to normal". When I post the post above which you quoted, I thought that it was all cushty again. Not so: you're totally right, aren't you? The first couple of bags were good, light brown hard packed rock smack. Then I got some which was like tar, but crap. The last few days it's been this dark brown, slightly damp powder which sorts you out but I have to smoke 0.5 fast to get a nod, which isn't right; I've only been back on about 10 days and have hardly got a habit.

So... I don't know why I writing this. I think I just want some company. My wife and kids don't know I've started using again, nor do any friends or other family. No one knows, apart from you, and you don't know me. Actually, the one wanker that I'm scoring through knows and he's the only one. It feels weird. I've got used to being open about what I do and I don't really like all the secrecy. Was it worth it, going back on the gear? I was tempted back in by the thought of that snowball but in the end I lost my bottle when I thought about the possible OD that might follow. I love my kids and I don't want them to have to live without a dad. So I've kind of chucked it all in for the sake of a few smokes of crappy dark and mediocre white... I feel a bit short changed, might stop again. Wonder if I can?

Loads of people down South have thrown the towel in because of this drought but in the last two years I've also never known so many people I know to die of drugs related deaths. It's weird: I'm not sure why it's happening. They seem to be dropping like flies. Sad.

Does anyone who used through the drought actually think it's totally back to normal in their town?

F.U.B.A.R.: really thanks for posting that original 'drought with nasty H' thread! I would have gone totally nuts if it weren't for finding that thread at the time!

Yeah mate, it's amazing how it all happened so quickly isn't it? One day I was buying the usual fairly decent gear, the next it had all gone to shit! The day I started that thread, my contact had gone to go and get his usual Kilo. So we waited, and waited, and waited some more.. eventually he came back with fuck all, saying it was all bash and not worth buying cos it all tasted of TCP. Fair play to the man really, he's a user himself and wasn't prepared to sell something he wouldn't touch with a bargepole. So after much ringing around, it transpired that everyone had got the same TCP smelling bash. This is when I posted to Bluelight, thinking that if anyone knows what's going on, it'll be you lot. I really thought it was just a localised problem at the time, but the first reply I got was from someone in prison in the N.E. (I think), saying that he'd got the same shit. Then it was like the bloody floodgates had opened because there was suddenly hundreds of people saying the same thing! The rest is history...

I still haven't got a clue what was in the TCP stuff, but after that there was all sorts of rumours about what the 'gear' was cut with. A particularly nasty one was the rosin cut (violin polish/solder flux), this stuff solidified in the works as soon as it cooled. Then there were rumours of sleeping tablets, paracetamol etc. I had a drugs test at the height of the drought and it came back positive for barbiturates - now I've never (knowingly) taken barbs in my life, so the only way this could have happened was through the gear.

Now I know there's a lot of people on here saying they're getting really good stuff again, but it seems to be only certain areas. I certainly don't think the standard is back to how it was pre-drought, and I don't really think it ever will be now that the dealers have realised what they can get away with. The prices have certainly gone up. But as I said, it's all done me a favour because I've finally come to my bloody senses and realised just what a fucking rip off the whole business is. However, I don't half miss having a decent dig...!!
 
I got tired of the crap gear and just the whole game really.Not used since end of last August and my worker at our local DSP told me that people are telling her that at the moment some of them are having to do 4 bags where 1 bag used to suffice.
So it's obviously still shite around this town but people still keep buying it.
 
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