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Benzos Etizolam Tolerance

Madrus

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0.25mg used to be good.

Now, after about a week of almost daily 0.5-1mg use, it feel like nothing.
0.5... nothing.. + 0.5mg... meh.. + 0.5mg.. okay there's something.
So 1.5mg it took.

Well. Shoot.

Anyway, when do the withdrawals start? It's been 7-8 days.
 
So long ago that I don´t even remember. But wasn't 1 mg a standard dose?
AFAIK WD's of Benzo's, specificly Etizolam , take some week's more to become dependend. So I think your safe, you can taper when in doubt.
But don't continue weekly use.

If you don't space your use you will def get physically and mentally dependant, with which i have no experience luckely.
Avoid that at all cost's is the best advice, Etizolam was imo in the top of usefull Benzo's, and its not even medically used over here.
Reminds me a bit of Clobazam with sedating effect's added.
 
I took it for 12 years at dozes 0.1-1mg for sleep every night with a few intentional breaks up to a week to test for withdrawal symptoms. I never experienced any aside from not being able to fall asleep. I quit it cold turkey a couple of months ago and didn't have any withdrawals, aside from suffering from not being able to get any normal sleep. I did use natural supplements like valerian during this process and I am still using them gradually tapering them off.
 
It has some metabolites that last a pretty long time, but I think you have withdrawals before a week for sure. especially at that low of a dose.

Also man you guys with your tiny doses are really telling me everything I need to know about the form you use/d it in. Sat there trying to figure out how you would shave down a 1mg pill to do 0.1mg and then I realized I'm being stupid.
 
Can anyone help me find real Xanax I've been getting laced ones sometimes cause I always test them and I jeed a safe supply
 
Only places that can help you with that one are your doctor or a forum that doesn't have a rule against sourcing drugs.
 
Antares said:
It has some metabolites that last a pretty long time, but I think you have withdrawals before a week for sure. especially at that low of a dose.

Also man you guys with your tiny doses are really telling me everything I need to know about the form you use/d it in. Sat there trying to figure out how you would shave down a 1mg pill to do 0.1mg and then I realized I'm being stupid.
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It's rather simple. When I first started making my own Etizolam solution, I came up with the following process.
I used to make 60ml EtOH/water/PG solution of 300mg of Etizolam, which gave me 5mg of Etizolam per 1 ml. I then removed the rubber bulb from the dropper that I was planning to use to dispense the solution, blocked its bottom tip with my finger and used an 1ml insulin syringe to fill the dropper precisely with I ml of solution. I then put the bulb back onto the dropper and counted how many drops it would dispense. I did it several times using chilled and room temperature solution. For that particular dropper and solution, under normal conditions 1ml = 5mg of etizolam = 30 drops, which equated to 6 drops for 1mg of Etizolam. Note that different proportional mixtures of solutes would have a different viscosities, while dropper tip radius, dropper shape and dropper material (glass/plastic) contribute to surface tension so you would have to measure specifically for your dropper and formulation.
 
Your withdrawal equals your time and it does typically take about a month to notice symptoms at low doses.
Most don't stop until they are taking doses that pretty high with anything.

The biting you take, is equivalent to the bite you took
 
Well shit. It's been 3 weeks and I've been taking it daily.
Now I'm up to ~1.5-2mg/day.
The morning 0.5 doesn't really register.
The dreams in the morning are very vivid and odd and sometimes involving taking etizolam in false-awakenings.

I tell ya, taking a GABA drug for days on end like this may not end well.
I have clonazepam which I can use to taper eventually - it's longer half-life.
Yeah. Should've been more responsible.
Sometimes in life though - it's nice to have a button to take away all worries and concerns. (Though they're simply waiting for you the next day)
 
Well, shit, it's been about 40 days. Daily use. 2-4mg/day. Tolerance has risen. Nightmares in the early morning.

I have some clonazepam. Can someone lay out a taper strategy for me so that I don't go into a seizure please?
Thanks.
 
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@Madrus try the Ashton manual. Taper your dose, stick to a plan.
let me know if I can help somehow.
Also, after how many days did you have physical symptoms?

I took gerodorm 40mg for 10 days then between 1.5 and 2.5mg for 4 days, then I took 0.5mg on Monday, 0.5mg on Wednesday. I haven't taken any since. I might be wrong and dose 0.5 in a random day but I honestly can't remember.
 
Try reading this thread. You also have the Ashton manual link there.

Benzos - ⫸Benzo Guide v.1⫷

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Madrus said:
0.25mg used to be good.

Now, after about a week of almost daily 0.5-1mg use, it feel like nothing.
0.5... nothing.. + 0.5mg... meh.. + 0.5mg.. okay there's something.
So 1.5mg it took.

Well. Shoot.

Anyway, when do the withdrawals start? It's been 7-8 days.
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I have extensive use / experience with Etizolam and its dechlorinated analog (Deschloroetizolam)….in addition to every other pharmaceutical benzodiazepine and RC Benzo alike

Etizolam, being a Theinotriazolodiazepine (a benzodiazepine analog) is most active at the a2/a3 subunit receptors- mainly anxiolytic & antidepressant properties (slightly similar to Alprazolam (Xanax) due to its Triazolo ring

Etizolam apparently has a reduced liability to cause dependence compared to Lorazepam (Wiki) …I have read several medical journal studies that compared Etizolam in controlled studies alone, and against classic benzodiazepine drugs such as Lorazepam & Diazepam, in addition to Alprazolam

Etizolam synthesized in Japan is a very effective anxiolytic. Rapid acting, relatively short half life and duration of action, with rapid clearance. Definitely has one of the best safety profiles as a benzodiazepine type anxiolytic. Essential a benzodiazepine as its MOA is identical to Xanax, Valium, Ativan, etc

Your usage is totally normal and would be classified as “low therapeutic doses” and not a long time using Etizolam. You could reduce dose during the last 1-2 weeks of a taper like 0.25mg in morning, 5pm ish, and an hour prior to bed…the just a 0.25 in morning and night. You would feel minimal discomfort (if any) at your usage level

You COULD go to your doc, or a walk-in clinic and tell them you were using a benzodiazepine and have stopped, and request a short supply of medications to aid in your cessation

Clonidine 0.1mg tablets. Scored tablets, even half a tablet is effective at reducing withdrawal symptoms from every known addictive drug. A robust potent rapid acting anxiolytic & mild sedative …reducing BP and norepinephrine in the CNS, rapid 30min onset reducing restlessness, anxiety, sweating, mental & physical destress, cardiovascular system calming properties. Amazing anxiolytic & sedative. Non addictive and any doc will prescribe 10 tablets for the 1-2 weeks after benzo cessation if needed. I STILL use Clonidine 0.1mg tablets to this day (as needed) as a potent rapid acting, non-benzodiazepine anxiolytic & sedative.

Gabapentin 100mg X 3 daily - off label anxiolytic (Gabapentin & Pregabalin (Lyrica) are often used when tapering off benzodiazepine / opioids / dopaminergic stimulants, etc ….doc might deny request, but could very easily give you a script for a low dose Gabapentin 100mg X 3 daily for 5 days (as needed) especially prior to bedtime - sleep disturbances caused by benzo withdrawal

In a nut shell….your low dose, short duration of Etizolam isn’t THAT much of a serious issue.

If anything, very mild to minimal mental distress / slight anxiety or anxiousness/restlessness due to no more Etizolam but would be a few days if anything. Low dose Clonidine or Gabapentin would be ideal IF you experienced any distress …again, nothing more than a week of super low dose comfort meds to relieve any discomfort

….You should be perfectly fine ;)
 
Ive had a 12mg a day habit all july and just ran out of my last benzos of any sort, i went down to 3mg in 3 days in a phoned in taper attempt but now im out cold turkey, how fucked am i?
 
bluecollartweeker said:
in a phoned in taper attempt
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Just wanted to say that is an excellent and clever term.

Keep us posted on what happens. (Same to you OP) Hopefully you’ll both be OK.

I imagine 12 mg is a very huge dose though. 12 times the recommended amount.
 
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JackARoe said:
Just wanted to say that is an excellent and clever term.

Keep us posted on what happens. (Same to you OP) Hopefully you’ll both be OK.

I imagine 12 mg is a very huge dose though. 12 times the recommended amount.
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Withdrawls are starting now, i think, i was cold sweaty and twitchy so i took a benzatropine, clonodine, and 3 codeine and slept for a good chunk of time. Im stable now thanks to my friends generous olive branch in the form of 4 bromazolam, and i scavenged enough moolah to get some alp but the big man is slow and can take days to drop em off
 
Etiz to my knowledge develops physical tolerance slower than other benzos, and it's also with my thankfully limited experience one of the few recreational ones, use under a week, don't have many on ur possession won't get hooked. Avoid it again for months. Remember kindling.
etizex sux etilamm=1 is da boy thankfully its only 10 in a blister pack but be bery carful with benzos or analogues folks. Its not recreational in the general sense but makes things feel a bit more ok, which is where the risk of psychological dependence and addiction comes in. harm reduction always. benzobuddies is a site for a reason, not sure of the saftest way to use maybe like 3mg one day, 2 the next, then 1? get rid of rest dont touch for a while.
 
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