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Etizolam - My drug hell

Days off work for short-acting benzos, Izzy. Some people would be fine with 1mg, every other day. Same with Xanax. Although, the withdrawals from this stuff seem to kick in quicker, and some people have said they started getting weird side effects, with constant use (withdrawals?). Not sure. It's not a benzo, though, so maybe that's the answer.
 
I'm annoyed I didn't see this thread earlier, as I went through EXACTLY what Ismene posted about . ( I may have posted elsewhere about my situation)

Apologies, I've not read this whole thread. So I'll just give my 2 cents briefly.

I'd been a sporadic Valium user for 2 years, and never encountered a problem. Despite having 2-3 week breaks. I think I just always missed out on any sort of major withdrawal (despite the ocasional mild anxiety/insomnia). But then before Xmas I went on an etiz binge for about 2 weeks. From 1-4mg a day, with maybe the odd day clean. And then went cold turkey. Literally 24 hours after my last dose I had the exact same symptoms Ismene mentioned, anxiety/insominia and a perpetual fear (even though i knew its root). I must add I had been using valium a little more than usual the week or so before this etiz binge, so perhaps I withdrew from both at the same time. Anyway, it took about 5 days of this horror before I felt normal again.

So I'd warn anyone to be careful with etiz. I know there are citations that state it has a decreased addiction/withdrawal profile than traditional benzo's, but I did NOT find this the case.

I have since used etiz the odd time. But will NEVER dose more than 2-3 days in a row again. The short half-life is such a bitch. Diaz is so much better on all fronts (other than legality).
 
The "fear" is something else isn't it wayne? I've never felt anything like it. Just solid suicidal doom.
 
I always get the feeling of impending doom and dread in my stomach, makes me feel constantly nauseous.
 
Ismene said:
The "fear" is something else isn't it wayne? I've never felt anything like it. Just solid suicidal doom.
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Yeah. The first time in my life I resorted to drinking during the day. Genuinely helped though. As by day 4/5 I was feeling myself again.
 
man it blows my mind how people can be on benzos etc all the time, the memory loss must be horrific, i love them but once the buzz wears off its just sleep. but mixing stuff is lovely
 
Without them I can't function. :(
I hate what I've done to myself, definitely have messed up my head and body. But I can't live without them at the moment, it sucks.
 
they have sone memory or maybe cognitive changes im not sure. the other morning i just poured orange juice onto my cereal without even thinking about it. tge milk and orange juice are in the same size cartons but thats where the similarities end. i would never normally do this sort of thing
 
kace said:
Without them I can't function. :(
I hate what I've done to myself, definitely have messed up my head and body. But I can't live without them at the moment, it sucks.
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Really sorry to hear your having a hard time kace (and others) I got in really deep with Diaz and thought at one stage I would never be free of them and the booze.

Many of the symptoms you describe are, as I'm sure you know associated with anxiety and depression and Benzos give some relief from these, don't waste time trying to pick out what symptoms have been triggered by the drug use and what were there to begin with and likely triggered the use, it serves no purpose.

Don't beat yourself up for taking them, if you need them just now be thankful you have them.

I'd strongly advice seeing a doctor about you anxiety issues I have suffered in the past and left things way too long, my GP estimated that I should have been there 2 years before judging by the state of me when I eventually went. The impending doom feeling is horrible, waking up every day to it is should destroying, no wonder you need a few pills.

Counselling and CBT helped me back on the right track as did ADs, although they are not for all and I no longer take them, the benzos were fairly low on my list of things to sort out so when the time came I was in a much better place to deal with it.

Best Wishes
 
This is a shitty situation. At the moment, i cannot cope without 10 mgs a day. I have been trying to spread out doses, but it's not really helping at all. So i gubbed 10 mgs about an hour ago and feel fine. I WILL NOT have anymore today, trust me. This thread has been a real eye opener. NO STIMS, OR ANY OTHER CRAP that will worsen the situation. I want out.

All the best to those struggling.
 
Whatever you do don't let the doses creep up. If you're going to taper, do it really slowly, over a period of say 6 months, and do it under the supervision of your doctor - get them to only let you pick up a prescription once a week, this can help with your willpower to ration out what you do have over short periods of time and in the long run will help you have the right mindset when you come off them completely.

It is horrible how benzos appear initially really helpful, but it's difficult to appreciate how difficult it can be to free yourself from them until it's too late. That and after a while they just are counterproductive anyway.
 
Ceres said:
It is horrible how benzos appear initially really helpful, but it's difficult to appreciate how difficult it can be to free yourself from them until it's too late. That and after a while they just are counterproductive anyway.
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Benzos are really helpful. Daily/heavy/habitual use of benzos is really not helpful. I have no intention of giving up the benzo script I've had for getting on for twenty years now... but I make damn sure not to take the piss with 'em these days. Strictly as required now. Am probably very fortunate in being able to do that though, I realise. Is a shame cos they are an absolute godsend when used cautiously. Wish I'd learnt that lesson earlier - would've saved a whole lotta shit and I'd probably remember considerably more of me late teens/twenties 8)

Totally agree that tapering from high-dose/longterm benzo use really should be done with medical assistance too.
 
Yeah definately, i mean they certainly have their uses and some people need them for reasons other than just a bit of social anxiety.

I never really got very into abusing benzos atall at any point, bar the odd week or two long flirtations with etizolam, I just never found them to be very recreational or as fun as other drugs. It was actually going too far with mdpv for too long that ended up with my GP prescibing loads of valium and lorazepam over a few months that got me in the state where I had to taper off them .

After a few months valium just made me quite prone to really bad / angry / don't give a fuck / say what you think before you think kind of moods.

It was pretty obvious though that when etizolam appeared on the RC market it was bound to cause problems for a lot of people :|
 
Indeed. Was always gonna end up with tears before bedtime but selling legal benzos is a licence to print money so as soon as they found a few legal ones it was always gonna happen :\

And I think "recreational" use of benzos almost automatically causes twattery to a greater or lesser extent in everyone. Certainly did with me... from the little I recall anyway 8)
 
I've said this before, but my shrink will not presribe me valium. I am currently on Sertraline, Buspirone, and Olanzapine. They are unaware of my Etizolam addiction. I have to do this on my own. Buspirone is supposed to be anxiolytic, not sure if it's kicked in yet, can take weeks. I've just taken valerian and lemon balm and feel a mild calmness.
 
Doc put me on Buspar/Buspirone years ago. Don't remember it being brilliant but did seem to help a bit. Was for anixety mostly. Worth sticking with as some folk find them really helpful.

Also, you can get concentrated valerian root tinctures if you find valerian helps. And when coming off a hefty benzo habit I'd say every little helps... to coin a quite handy phrase now annoyingly permanently linked to some wankers.
 
I would tell them about the etizolam, personally. They will help you taper with supervision and give you a diazepam script to do it, instead of having to buy etizolam atall. There must be an awful lot of people in the same boat who are basically victims of the online drug market, and your psychiatrist should be far more sympathetic than a GP will, if they are decent.

It is difficult though, I can understand why people are reluctant to tell their doctors or psychiatrists about anything to do with drugs, as sometimes it can lead to you getting treated quite unfairly and it's amazing how much stigma can come with any mention of drugs in your records.

But if you are struggling, do get help if you have a good rapport with your doctor/ psychiatrist. They can be incredibly helpful and sympathetic.


Pregabalin is alright for anxiety and prescribed a bit more readily, but it's not perfect either and can have it's own dependance and tolerance issues.
 
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