Etizolam, dependence and drug tests.

[Gaz_hmmmm]

Hi

I'm posting this as I've been using Etizolam daily for a couple of months and am obviously dependant on them.

The weird thing is, is that when I did a drug test (urine) the line for benzo's barely showed.

Now I've been getting these (1mg tab's, not in a blister) from one of the so called 'Big 5' (It's a UK website with great reputation), I've also had (Not for a few weeks) their pyrazolam 0.5mg tab's.

The tabs that are being sold as etizolam feel like benzo's to me, but I can't understand why it, as in a positive for benzo's on a UA drug test would not show up properly. For all I know the slight positive was caused by diazepam that'd been taken within the last 2 weeks.

Does anyone know why?

Is it because it's a thienodiazepine?

Let's say the company isn't actually selling Etizolam, is there any drugs they could use that'd feel exactly like benzo's and wouldn't show on a UA?

Thanks in advance!

 

[knock]

Well, without knowing the chemistry in great detail, drug tests rely on chemical reactions which lead to a detectable physical change. A test for benzos will rely on a specific chemical reaction taking place, which is common to the molecules in the benzo class. But there may be some benzo-class molecules whose specific structure means they do not react in the required way.

By way of analogy, I can test for Scotsmen by getting people to speak a sentence and comparing their accent to what I know are Scottish accents. But some Scotsmen have funny (not recognisably Scottish) accents, and will not be identified in such a test. And some people with non-Scottish nationality speak with a Scottish accent, perhaps because they've been living here for a while.

A more accurate way of testing for Scotsmen might be an analysis of DNA, but that's expensive, and some people born in Scotland will slip through that net too. Or I could ask to see a birth certificate, and that will pick up many Scotsmen, but some people born in Scotland will have a different nationality because they applied for US nationality at some point in their life.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

it might be cos its a thieno thingy. But it binds fully to all the benzo receptors in the brain and works full damn well as a benzo. These tests areant all that. It seems that most of these uncontrolled substances completely slip through all tests as the tests arent designed to pick them up. I guess no ones got round to designing tests for these substances.

Its very difficult to know the scale of usage in the wider population. Everyone in EADD has heard of these uncontrolled substances, but all the IRL drug users ive met have never heard of these substances. If they havent, then what are the chances the people in charge of designing these tests having heard of them, or even feeling the need to design tests for them. It seems to be a very tiny percentage of drug users using these things. EADD gives a whole different picture though.

Opiate tests dont even detect bupe as an opiate in the '5 panel' opiate test. But that might be cos of its agonist/antagonist properties. I dunno. I suppose its not a proper opiate, allthough it binds far more strongly to the brains opiate receptors than anything else. Its all quite confusing when you have a bit of knowledge, but havent got it all.

 

[curious_24]

Brilliant analogy!

 

[backroll]

I always get shouted at by the yank mods for talking about drug testing on here! No Comment!

 

[knock]

Ha no we don't allow "drug testing questions" i.e. we're not here to help anyone pass a drug test. It's in the EADD guidelines now.

But this is a pretty innocent technical question, "why would a benzo-type drug not show up on a benzo test", not "help me beat the test", so I don't see the harm.

Mind you my view of these things seems to be well wide of the Establishment Line.

Having said all that, the question has been answered as completely as is necessary. For a more detailed answer you might need to look elsewhere. So, closed.