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(Ethylphenidate/Repeated Intranasal) Inexperienced: "Vanilla Ice Cream"

n3wt

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I ate a late lunch and consumed a large coffee prior to this test.

Appearance : A chunky white powder, the clumps break apart easily.

I'm not generally a stimulant user, but I was able to pick this up cheap and I've got 48 hours in a row free, so what the hell. I have some etizolam on hand in case of some kind of trainwreck, and to help me sleep later.

5:10 : Insufflated a small bump to check for allergies or any other problems.

5:22 : Feeling some small effects, thoughts seem clear and focused. Vision seems more detailed. No apparent physical effects at this point. If my heart is beating faster than normal it isn't enough for me to notice. I feel slightly jittery, but I did just drink a coffee and I'm a bit anxious about insufflating a mysterious white powder.

5:35 : Effects have pretty much faded, I feel comfortable chopping up a decent sized line and insufflating. I'm eyeballing my dosages, which is obviously not smart, but the dosage range seems to be about the same as another more expensive white powder, so it's easy to see what amount should be about right. The larger line does burn a bit more, but the burn fades in a few seconds.

5:42 : It takes a few minutes to kick in properly, but it's quite nice when it does. A nice mood lift that comes over you slowly, it's not pushy or overpowering, it feels clean and easy to deal with. I'm enjoying reading, I'm enjoying watching the news, I'm even finding the dull throb in my right nostril kind of pleasant.

5:47 : I'm getting a rather foul tasting drip, about the only thing I can complain about at this point.

5:50 : I'm playing guitar. I'm content to just sit here slowly strumming chords, enjoying the way they sound. Sometimes I play along with the jingles in the commercials on TV, and come up with little melodies to complement them. I'm a real fan of this stuff so far, it does what it does, but it stays out of your way. If you're looking for a dance the night away kind of stimulant, this isn't the stuff for you, but it works a treat for making CNN seem extremely interesting.

6:10 : Still feeling stimulated, but it's more of a nice background buzz now. Still nothing to complain about.

6:35 : Effects seem to have mostly faded at this point.

6:42 : Chopping up another line, the last hour really flew by.

6:44 : There's that burn again. I insufflated a little too hard and some went down my throat, it was very unpleasant.

6:50 : I'm right back where I was about an hour ago. Still no physical effects of any note. I'm listening to music and mostly just enjoying having a day to myself. I have etizolam and some good weed for when it's time to get to sleep, and nothing at all to do tomorrow. This makes me feel pretty good, nothing to stress about, life is good.

6:52 : I'm not really finding that I have the urge to do great big doses of this like I might with other chemicals. There isn't really any big high to "chase" more like a nice feeling to maintain. The idea of doing a great big line makes my nose hurt anyway, I can see that problem limiting this chemical's popularity, though I can't think of any other chemical that really fits into the same niche as this.

7:02 : I'm still coughing and my eyes are watering. Be gentle when you're insufflating this stuff, you don't want it in your throat.

7:42 : I spent the last 40 minutes putting together a mix CD for my girlfriend to listen to at work. I found having something to focus on really pleasurable, and the feeling that I was doing something that would make someone I care about happy was nice too. Maybe I'll tidy up our bedroom later, that'll make her smile. At some point the effects pretty much went away, but I didn't notice until I was done making the CD. I just kind of looked up from my work and realized I felt normal again. This makes me hopeful that I won't have to experience too much of a crash later when I put the bag away for the day.

7:45 : I'm going to run the CD over now.

8:10 : Back home. I way the pros and cons of having some more, I feel it's worth the pain so here we go.

8:12 : Ouch ouch, it went down my throat again. My first successful line must've been a fluke, I can't seem to get it right anymore.

8:16 : I'm getting a bit of a runny nose, and I'm coughing again. I've heard ethylphenidate is sometimes distributed as crystals, that might be a bit easier to deal with. When the chunky powder I have breaks apart it becomes very fine and fluffy, almost like flour. It's difficult to insufflate it without choking, so keep a glass of water around.

8:20 : I feel like smoking a bowl. Mixing cannabis and stimulants isn't always a good idea because they can both cause anxiety. I'm not feeling any anxiety from the ethylphenidate though, and I have some etizolam here, so what the hell.

8:32 : Had a bit of anxiety, I couldn't find my lighter. Hah.

8:30 : I'm not finding Cannabis and ethylphenidate to be a great combination. I'm not having any anxiety problems, but the cannabis doesn't seem to be doing much other than dulling the experience. I was liking the focus I had before, so this isn't desirable.

8:35 : I'm feeling a little anxiety, it's slight but I thought it worth pointing out. It keeps popping in my head that I should keep track of the time, so as to make sure I get enough sleep. As soon as I remember that I have no commitments tomorrow the feeling passes. If I did have to work tomorrow though, I could see that feeling building and becoming something worse. Again, I wouldn't recommend mixing cannabis and ethylphenidate.

8:52 : I just packed and got halfway through smoking a bowl before I realized what I was doing. I don't smoke cigarettes, but if I did I'd likely be chain smoking like crazy right now. The ritual of tapping the bowl out, grinding up some weed between my fingers, filling the bowl, lighting the lighter, inhaling deeply, holding it for a second, leaning back and exhaling slowly and watching the smoke slowly drift up towards the ceiling is really pleasurable. I don't even feel like getting high. I wish I had something inert to smoke, maybe something with a nice flowery or herbal flavour. I'll remember that for next time.

9:02 : My appetite is suppressed, but not very much so. I could eat right now, but I don't have any food in the house and going out to get some feels like a hassle, so I probably won't. I don't feel like a superhuman who has no need of food or sleep like someone might have on a stronger stimulant, I'm just not hungry enough to run out and get food.

9:05 : I find myself grinding my teeth. It's not compulsive, I can stop if I want, it's more like I just happen to enjoy grinding my teeth for some reason. I also enjoy shaking my leg. If I'm painting a picture of a shivering crackhead, that's not the case. I'd imagine I look more like a little kid who's full of energy, it feels nice to move around and let some energy out, but I don't have to.

I feel like this is a good place to end this report. There really isn't much more to say. It feels good, it feels clean, it hurts your nose, and it seems to last about an hour. It's not going to blow your mind, but don't turn it away if it's offered to you. Despite the burn, it doesn't seem to be doing any damage to my nose, though a long binge probably wouldn't be good. If my opinion on this substance changes at all at any point I'll update this post, but for now call it Vanilla Ice Cream.

I'll update this tomorrow to describe any kind of "crash" I experience, and to document how much trouble I have getting to sleep.



Changed title to fit our format guidelines, PM is you've any questions. :) - Thou
 
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Update, as promised. I took my last dose of the night around 2:30 and took 1mg of etizolam at the same time. I seemed to float back down with no real discomfort or crash. Another 2mg of etizolam and a few bowls and I was asleep within a couple hours.
 
This is exactly how an experience report should be formatted, thanks for the report and glad you had a bit of fun.

I'm a bit weary myself of this one, but then again I'm not really a big stim guy. I just like them for getting work done and helping with inattentive type ADD.

Do you have anything in your experience to compare this to? Amphetamine (IE: Aderrall or any of its salts), or even better, 4FA? I found 4FA to be superior to adderall for my ADD, but insurance doesn't cover it unfortunately :(. So much smoother and longer lasting than IR amphetamine.

I've always hated ritalin myself, just a nasty one but that's just my opinion.

So we have established that this lasts about what, around an hour insufflated? I'd love to hear experiments with other routes of administration. It's a shame these compounds are so goddamn new that the information containing the bioavailability for the different routes of administration aren't a hop, skip, and a google search away complete with chart and equipotency.

Thanks for taking the time out to write this.

Thou
 
Unfortunately I only very rarely take stimulants. Generally I stick to beer, weed and psychedelics.

I've never had prescription stimulants, and the only "street" stimulants I've had are a few experience with Cocaine and MDMA. Obviously it more closely resembles Cocaine because their mechanism of action is about the same, but at the same time the subjective effects are so different that it's not really a useful comparison. Sorry, I'm really not the right person to ask.

I'd imagine if you don't like Ritalin, though, you probably won't like this either. I've never had Ritalin, but from reading other threads on this site I've gathered that Ritalin (Methylphenidate) and Ethylphenidate are mostly the same with the latter being less potent, but having fewer side effects.
 
thanks for doing a trip report on this. i am also wondering about other ROA on this since, everyone seems to agree its too harsh to do up the nose. ive heard bombing it, or capsuling it works quite well, have you tried this method, and if so how much and what do you think of it compared to snorting it, as far as effectiveness goes?
 
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