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Ethylphenidate - Multiple doses - First Time - A long day of feeling fine :D

Mr Blonde

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Introduction: I don't have scales unfortunately, so this was all eyeballed. I'm about 175cm tall, 52-55kg and not much muscle or fat so stims tend to hit me harder then others. I had consumed a cup of coffee prior to ingestion, and smoked cigarettes before, during and afterwards. The night before I had consumed roughly 12mg of etizolam, and five days previously had consumed about 200mg of MDMA. I am not normally a stimulant user, in fact I much prefer downers but I decided I'd try this one out.

0:00 – Eyeballed what looked like around 25mg or so. Burns like a mother going up! Luckily the pain doesn't last too long.

0:04 – Light up a cigarette. Starting to feel something coming on, feeling stimulated. Start to feel a mild drip.

0:10 – Definitely feeling stimulated and have a definite mood boost. Replying to a whole host of messages I hadn't had the chance to get back to in the last few days and have a real urge to talk and talk and talk.

0:13 – Have to keep updating this as I'm still feeling more and more stimulated. Watching the news and every single story that comes up I'm having to look up on the internet for more info. Commonwealth Ombudsman resigns over collusion allegations? I don't know why that makes me so excited but I need to know all the details for some reason!

0:20 – Feeling like maybe the 'pushy' stimulation has stopped rising; I feel really good and need another cigarette for sure. I'm jumping back and forth between news articles and Bluelight.

0:29 – Can hear my brother and his friend playing music upstairs and I definitely feel deeper music appreciation. I'm listening to the notes they are playing, the interweaving of the guitar and keyboard and the dynamics between them. Think I might go upstairs and bug them so I can have some conversation as no one seems to be online at the moment.

1:10 – Wow completely lost track of time there. Was jamming alongside my brother and his friend; my guitar and amplifier are too much to take upstairs so I played on the higher end of the keyboard and came up with some cool riffs and ideas for the songs we played on. I feel as if my creativity has been given a kick. The adrenergic stimulation has died down a bit but I definitely feel the euphoria and drive to do things still. Feeling like I want a re-dose but I think I'll put it off for a while.

1:40 - Did a second line of around the same dosage because I felt like it. :)

1:50 – Feeling that stimulating kick again... very nice, could get a lot done on this substance.

2:16 – Helping step-father out with computer problems. Normally I'd rather be doing my own thing but I feel quite happy helping him out, I like doing something useful. I'll also note here my appetite is definitely suppressed; it's currently 2:27pm and I haven't eaten since last night and right now I couldn't touch food at all. My stomach is rumbling though to remind me that I should have eaten.

2:35 – Feeling like another re-dose, even though I'm very much still stimulated and mood is still up. Haven't had stimulants in a while and I find myself jumping back and forth between conversations, Bluelight, Sydney Morning Herald, forgetting to update trip report. I'm sure that I could focus my energy on to one task if I wanted to though.

3:00 – Have to run some errands, and decide to put off re-dosing until then. Again, I feel pretty damn enthusiastic about it even though it's not exactly my cup of tea. I have a good amount of energy in me... slight headache which is probably from not enough water. Will drink a glass or two now. :)

4:27 – Errands took longer then expected. I could feel the effects wearing off, and felt a little irritable and wanting more. Was glad to get back home and have another line. I also noticed that there seem to be some diuretic properties to this substance, something I often get on stimulants. There also don't seem to be many adverse physical effects; my hands are perhaps a little shakier then normal but I have the shakes in general and it doesn't seem too much worse. My typing is fine. Off to do a few more errands apparently.

5:12 – Whilst still running errands I go into a pharmacy to get my blood pressure checked. 120/70 with a pulse of 90. The elevated puse came from having to walk down an obscene amount of stairs before I got to the pharmacy; before that my heart rate felt fine.

6:30 – Errands took a lot longer then I thought. Have a moderate sinus headache; fairly sure this chemical is irritating my sinus infection. It does hurt a lot when snorted. Just had another line and seems to fulfill that compulsion to dose almost instantly... can feel the energy coming back.

8:05 – Some people came over and had to eat dinner. Forced the food down but unlike recent times I felt very comfortable around our company. Did two bumps for a re-dose, was very painful... if this substance is overused, it could probably do some real damage to the nasal membranes.

8:50 – Keep thinking of things to add to report. By now re-doses are starting to have less of a stimulating edge, but are definitely keeping mood elevated. I also find I'm still getting really involved in multiple tasks; writing out long emails, reading studies, chasing up on things, etc...

9:06 – Another larger re-dose just taken. Estimated at 50mg. Unlike amphetamine and methamphetamine, this stimulant does not seem to be particularly good at keeping my nose dry and free of mucous, so I'm making sure I blow my nose before snorting. I also noticed that my pupils are somewhat dilated; not too bad (I like dilated pupils, especially on women ;) ). I've only noticed this now that it's dark, I was checking earlier on in the day and my eyes seemed normal.

9:16 – I've been feeling the physical stimulation kick in again for the last few minutes... so there is some tolerance that I've developed during the day to the effects of the drug.

10:08 – Considering one last re-dose before I make up some codeine to come down. I think I'll go for it, having a good time and no work tomorrow.

10:25 – Just had another re-dose, same size as last time. Estimate at around 50mg? As I blew my nose before snorting, I noticed a little amount of blood in the mucus. Perhaps wasn't such a good idea to snort so many lines when I already had nasal trouble.

11:19 – Still going, almost want to keep dosing and go all night! Conversation flows like water, to steal a cliché. Think I might need to come-down eventually though.

12:34 – Starting to die down as I haven't re-dosed. Have a CWE brewing and am ready to come down and then conclude this report. :)

14:18 – About an hour ago I dosed 2.4 grams of codeine and then about 20 minutes later followed that with 14mg of etizolam. I know these are high doses, but I have big tolerances to opioids and benzodiazepines. I would advise that you don't get a tolerance as high as mine, because it's not very fun. Not at all. I'm feeling relaxed now, as I was coming down I was feeling some muscle tension, headache from electrolyte imbalance most likely and a very painful nose. Everything is good now though, still haven't got much of an appetite and am still fairly alert, don't feel much like sleeping. Will take an extra 6mg of etizolam and see if that helps.

CONCLUSION: This is a very interesting substance. I think we have all heard that before, but I'll throw it out there anyway. To level with you all, I'm not much of a stimulant user. I've used amphetamine and methylphenidate but not for a few years. The last stimulant I had used prior to this was MDPV, and that was a few months back. I didn't really enjoy MDPV; the first dose or two was nice, but then it went downhill from there. Too many physical side effects for me, and the compulsive re-dosing didn't even really fix the problem unless I was using ultra low doses.

This stuff I found much preferable. I didn't feel any vasoconstriction or other peripheral side effects that worried me, and when I had my BP tested it was fine. In fact the pharmacy assistant was telling me it was a bit low! Probably because of my age (21). I am very unfit though and smoke a lot of cigarettes and so I was happy to see my BP was OK. The pulse rate elevation was probably from having to go down quite a few flights of stairs to get to the pharmacy. The only other times that I felt my pulse rate was elevated was when it was first kicking in after a dose.

I did notice that I wanted to keep doing more. Eventually I called it quits and used my comedown package to get some rest... didn't get much though because I also tried out about 15-20mg of MXE which combined with the codeine and etizolam was enough to have me feeling very nice but not sleeping much at all. I liked the little adrenergic boost that it gave as I first dosed that then mellowed out into a more mental effect. I felt like I could do so much at once, but towards the end was trying to focus on one task at a time to get it completed so that I could then continue on with conversation. This was one of the big positives of this substance; normally I don't talk too much, don't socialize much... but on this I was talking and talking like I was going to be mute tomorrow!

And that's where I feel the comparison with cocaine ends. Whilst this is a dopamine re-uptake inhibitor like cocaine, it definitely has more of a push to it. The duration isn't that long; I suppose a single dose would have you feeling baseline around 2 hours, though the appetite suppressant and insomnia effects persist longer then that. I definitely took this one for a wild ride; I'd suggest starting off low and seeing how you from there. If you have anxiety problems then this may exacerbate them; I tend to have problems talking to people and fitting in at social situations but with this I felt very comfortable talking to people. Also felt like I could get a lot done on it, if I didn't have so many different things going on at the time of the experience.

All in all, I'd give this a 8/10. Keep in mind I'm not much of a stimulant user though, so your mileage may vary but I much preferred this to MDPV which made me scattered quite quickly. Methamphetamine I'm not so much a fan of due to duration and peripheral effects, and that's what I liked about ethylphenidate. There were hardly any physical side effects so to speak of.

I'm happy to answer any questions people may have, as my trip report is a bit all over the place. :)
 
great report, lots of good info. were most of the lines except for the ones u stated were 50mg, close to the size of your first line?.

this was very interesting to read, i also tried for the first time yesterday and your describing everything i was feeling better than i can lol. im a similar height and weight to you and i also enjoyed this more than most stims it seemed more gentle yet still more euphoric than mdpv.

i spent the whole morning redoseing 30-50mg every 30-45mins and found i couldnt focus on one task, i would begin doing something but like 1 min later i start somthing else. needless to say i ended up cleaning the fuck outa my pool, garage and house.

i play guitar and keyboard and look forward to attemptin a jam wiv sum mates to check out the music appreciation. (this has just spawned an idea of me hellz wanting to combo ep+mxe, i find mxe to have some of the strongest music app)

i will also add after my inital dose i had a baccy bong and after the effects of baccy where gone i did feel a nice euphoric lift and then just that urge to communicate, i hopped on bl and a few other site before i new it 40 mins had passed, but i did feel the increased socialbility taper off with the more re doses i was doing.

Thanks for the great report, first Australian report on ep D:.
AFA<3
 
^ I found that I developed a bit of a tolerance as well, but it by doubling the redose I got the sociability and communication back and was up until 1:20am conversing on it, then took the the comedown kit and was still conversing for another hour or more. :)

I'll attach a picture to show the size of the first line I did, they weren't very big but I got a lot out of them. Quality isn't so good but should give indication of size.

If anyone else gets this, make sure you break up any little clumps before snorting.
 

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This was one of the big positives of this substance; normally I don't talk too much, don't socialize much... but on this I was talking and talking like I was going to be mute tomorrow!

It's true!


Great report, can't wait to try this one. Well written too hey, I usually get bored with long reports after a minute or so but this was great.
 
^ Thanks comrade, I was worried it was a bit too long. Good thing I got distracted doing lots of different things or it might have been even longer!

Today my nose is very blocked up, had to resort to using some Nasonex (oxymetazoline) to clear it up as it was unbearable. I probably should have taken it easier, given the sinus trouble I had prior to this.
 
I find my nose clogs really bad; but then i snort it back and it's just the rest of the ethylphenidate. This is still a valid question for me, my technique is solid but i'll still get a bit of a drip for half an hour am i doing this right or is it normal?

edit: I was in a rough state here, couldn't walk or speak properly. I appreciate the corrected spelling as i could not see. Is it common for vision to be blurred so bad u can't read your phone/computer screen?

edit: double vision still persists but there are no more colours. I took some phenazepam to try and sleep it off but it didn't work; i've been up since the first dose and i don't know how to come down.

so i haven't slept since last night consumed 300mg in total so far (thought it was 400 but found some). How long can I keep this show on the go? The weekend? I have a job starting Monday blah so this is my last weekend blast until I get fired or laid off lol.
So question: how long can i redose this stuff (assuming I take care of my body); what are the doses gong to be like, 20-50-100mg bumps? and what duration are you guys finding with accumulation of doses? I mean you take 400mg over the night will your heart blow up or cardiac arrest? Looking to use this safely out tonight sorry for all the questions, totally new to stims except irresponsible Ritalin use in high scjool[/U]

basically i am asking how i can have the most fun with this stuff while being safe.
The answer is to probably take it in moderation like the doctors prescribe. Sorry I am so dumb when benzod/amped/psyched out on here lol.
 
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You should be cautious with and RC and try not to binge but people will so try to eat, drink and sleep well.

Considering how weak this chem seems to be compared to methylphenidate, I don't think 400mg will throw you into cardiac arrest but it's a good idea to keep your eye on your heart rate and blood pressure.

I'm guessing you will need to keep upping your doses throughout the binge if you want to get another high but I find with most stims to keep stimulated but not chase the high to dose half or less of your original dose.
 
I've only used it for 12 hours so far, can't comment on a binge. I didn't notice some tolerance developing and needing to up doses towards the end. I haven't heard much of longer binges then that; let us know how your weekend adventure goes, and keep us updated! :)
 
so far it's day 3 for me. Day 1 got research sample, immediately tested for allergies then went for 20mg or something. I'm now up to doses of 200mg throughout the day and can't sleep. I still feel great with another 100mg to snort before it's hopefully crash time. I could either use a decent size of phenazapam to knock me out but would zopiclone 7.5 work better? I need to get some sleep or will my body just crash with a few diphydramine.?? I have trazadone too but it doesn't work well.
 
From this report and from experiences in Aus Drug Discussion, it seems to be a little bit more relaxed and more euphoric version of its methyl brother.

Robotripping, I'd stick to the phenaz if you can. Z drugs can have some pretty weird side effects and black outs so it's probably not a good idea to mix one with such an unknown RC
 
more dopamine activity and less nor-adrenaline, slightly less potent but makes up a bit for it with the DAT activity.
it's farrrr more smooth than methylphenidate. I'm coming down now and not even reaching for the benzos yet.
Ethylphenidate also has a much shorter action. which I think has been discussed.


and thanks for the tip ^ i don't want a zombie walk out of the house or something. Maybe ativan will have to do but not sure what my tolerance to it is anymore. Will I eventually just burn out naturally or will this require downers?
 
I've only ever used racemic Ritalin here in Australia, and this definitely has less physical side effects. Lasts for a shorter amount of time as well.
 
^ I found that I developed a bit of a tolerance as well, but it by doubling the redose I got the sociability and communication back and was up until 1:20am conversing on it, then took the the comedown kit and was still conversing for another hour or more. :)

I'll attach a picture to show the size of the first line I did, they weren't very big but I got a lot out of them. Quality isn't so good but should give indication of size.

If anyone else gets this, make sure you break up any little clumps before snorting.

i sure hope that fiver wasnt used to rail with...


wasnt there a horror story posted on here somewhere about someone getting hep c from using dirty money to line wiv?
 
man i cannot fall asleep on this stuff; took 200ng or so along with 3-5 phenazepam, 1mb ativan and against recommendation a 7.5mg zopiclone which did nothing but gave me a cool little trip where I saw text flutter on the sky. I'm also a natural nocturnal. What am i going to do to sleep/ Gf is gonna give me shit for taking the ativan and zopiclonde. I cannot walk or do much other than sit here, if i get up i risk falling a fatal death.

This has been the first stimulant binge since ritalin in high school - i hope i'm not making a post in the DS in a month sayin what am i gonna do my phenazepam problem is worse now tho (I've been toothpicking it - don't judge me i canot even afford 151 or my kitty doesn't eat. And I can toothpick with the best of the best - not a black out yet

hello hello hello is there anyone in there? is there anyone home?
Relax, relax, relax i can ease your pain, get you on your feet again
 
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fuck it i'm not sleeping till a train hits me or i black out. Funny thing was I was so fucked on benzos that I couldn't walk and couldn't see anything straight, pure ataxia. Now this can't be good for me but I've been nonstop using 200mg/day with slight increases since Thursday (any fighter jet recruiters on here?) So what the hell do i use to knock myself to sleep. Part of the experience is that I don't want to sleep; lose productive bluelight time.

and an update: double vision still slightly present but i can somewhat type decently. Would like to pin this down on the benzos as when i take a good dose of ethylphenidate my eyes become quite clear and focused, It's not like the crash is that bad; it's mild if anything, i just can't physically sleep and have no desire to.
 
I find BL pretty bad for sleep too. Sound like you're just gonna have to ride this one out unless you have some seroquel or you could try an OTC sleep aid with a strong anti-histamine in it.

The double vision is a pretty common side effect from Phenazepam.

I have been in you over stimulated and fucked on benzo position before, it's not that great. Best just to find something to keep you entertained until you feel ready for sleep
 
This sounds like it could be really good. But sadly I havent heard much about it except on here. I guess its not to common where I live. How lame. lol
Well glad you liked it, sucks you couldnt sleep though.
 
i sure hope that fiver wasnt used to rail with...


wasnt there a horror story posted on here somewhere about someone getting hep c from using dirty money to line wiv?

Unfortunately it was. :\

Pretty risky, especially since I already had a bleed in my nose which just gives bacteria or virions more of a chance to gain a foothold.

I'm quite liking this substance... it's a fairly relaxed stimulant, which I like and I haven't really experienced any untoward side effects from it. Definitely good for social situations too. :)
 
This sounds like an interesting substance, although stimulants are so not my thing. Also not a fan of substances that have constant urges to re-dose. But for a stimfan, I could see how this would be preferable to others. It kind of makes me wish I didn't react so badly to them (they completely ruin my anxiety level, and that makes for a very unenjoyable experience). Nice report!
 
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