Stimulants Ethylphenidate + Meth Combo

[Tweak Thizz]

Would this potentiate the meth in any way? I have both but I don't have too much of the Meth so I was thinking of mixing ethylphenidate with it so it would increase the strength of the meth but I heard mixing 2 different stimulants can also trigger panic attacks.

Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.

also: If i am coming down from the meth, and i do ethylphenidate, will it help the comedown or make it worse?

 

[tricomb]

Jeez, sounds like a dreadful combination. I think it would ruin the methamphetamine high. I would rather be coming down from methamphetamine alone than adding in EPH and making me feel like shit.

However, I don't like methylphenidate or any of it's analogues including EPH.

I would be careful mixing strong CNS stimulants like that because it lowers your seizure threshold and I'm sure there are a plethora of nasty side effects.

$0.02

 

[Tweak Thizz]

Jeez, sounds like a dreadful combination. I think it would ruin the methamphetamine high. I would rather be coming down from methamphetamine alone than adding in EPH and making me feel like shit.

However, I don't like methylphenidate or any of it's analogues including EPH.

I would be careful mixing strong CNS stimulants like that because it lowers your seizure threshold and I'm sure there are a plethora of nasty side effects.

$0.02

EPH isn't bad IMO..feels like coke..except more straight forward and last a bit longer. Still have a shitty comedown though.

I was thinking since EPH stops the reuptake of the dopamine/norepinephrine using meth after the use would increase the effect? Though may having a strain on the heart?

 

[tricomb]

It would put a significant stress on your body and the pleasure centers of your brain, I really would not advise you mix the two.

 

[Tryptamino]

EPH cancels out the meth. you will not feel any positive effects, but you will come down from the meth immediately.

 

[Tweak Thizz]

EPH cancels out the meth. you will not feel any positive effects, but you will come down from the meth immediately.

I was thinking that caffeine potentiates amphetamine that Ethylphenidate would do the same since they are both DNRIs...I think I might be wrong though.

 

[pbuilder]

I was thinking that caffeine potentiates amphetamine that Ethylphenidate would do the same since they are both DNRIs...I think I might be wrong though.

Caffeine is a DNRI lolll...?

Where did you get that information from.

 

[xxxyyy]

i for the life of me cannot discern why people keep comparing MPH/EPH to coke.

 

[pbuilder]

i for the life of me cannot discern why people keep comparing MPH/EPH to coke.

I noticed EPH with alcohol felt similar to cocaine with alcohol.

Just not quite as high, but a lot more level of a up and down rather than huge up and huge crash.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

i for the life of me cannot discern why people keep comparing MPH/EPH to coke.

People get different quality Cocaine. I'd imagine that relatively pure Cocaine feels much more smooth and empathogenic than methylphenidate. The similarity between the two is significant when injected, however.

I noticed EPH with alcohol felt similar to cocaine with alcohol.

Just not quite as high, but a lot more level of a up and down rather than huge up and huge crash.

Both of these chemicals when combined with alcohol form new substances which will have that effect.

EPH cancels out the meth. you will not feel any positive effects, but you will come down from the meth immediately.

Can you explain this pharamacologically and/or cite a source?

 

[xxxyyy]

granted, but even bad cocaine feels nothing like MPH, i mean i could get someone comparing it to dex or meth.
decent cocaine is a whole other story.

 

[Twigs]

Both of these chemicals when combined with alcohol form new substances which will have that effect.

Only cocaine forms another substance (cocaethylene) when combined with alcohol. Ethylphenidate does not. I think you are confusing it with methylphenidate where ethylphenidate is formed through transesterification.

 

[scottd420]

I was thinking that caffeine potentiates amphetamine that Ethylphenidate would do the same since they are both DNRIs...I think I might be wrong though.

You're right that they don't work on the same mechanism. Caffeine is an adenosine receptor antagonist, which in turn indirectly causes a an effect where adenosine cannot counteract catecholamines (mostly NE, but also small amounts of dopamine).

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Only cocaine forms another substance (cocaethylene) when combined with alcohol. Ethylphenidate does not. I think you are confusing it with methylphenidate where ethylphenidate is formed through transesterification.

I read it wrong.