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So after hearing mixed reviews about this one and with our old friend 'B2' on vacation atm, I decided to give it a try.
This report will be fairly short as the compound itself seems to be fairly uninteresting.
Subject Info
21 y/o, Male, 10 Stone, Lefthanded.
Experience
MDMA, Mephedrone, Methylone, 4-MEC, 'B2', Ketamine, Methoxetamine, 2C-B, 2C-E, Cocaine, Etizolam, Valium, Cannabis, 6-APB, Speed, BZP and probably various other substances sold as something else.
Setting
Just having a chilled end to the weekend at home with a few beers with the girlfriend.
Report
Info: Times inaccurate as this report is from memory. Was previously at a pub in town after work having a couple of pints, so 2 pints down already. Girlfriend is pretty pissy with me taking stuff now. She used to enjoy taking stuff with me (especially B2) but she wants to give up but I'm not really ready for that as I don't find it a personal problem. Get home and crush a small amount out (eyeballed) and crack open a couple of cans for me and my girlfriend. Girlfriend gets in a bit of a mood because I'm taking shit but it's nothing too major.
Harm reduction: Never eyeball dosages. My friend had the scales I usually use but I've read up on this compound and feel it'll be fairly easy for me to eyeball a suitable dose.
'Keyboard scale (KBS)' - A rough scale I personally came up with for measuring line length. The length from one numerical key to another on a keyboard. (I know size varies but like I said, a rough scale)
0:00 - Insufflate small amount for allergy test. Thin line, 1-2 on the keyboard scale. Instantly made me choke. It seems once this compound is crushed down it's so thin it hits the throat very easily.
Totally have to change the way I usually bosh to compensate for this. I find the best method is to sniff very slowly and gently, even more gentle than if you were breathing through your nose normally.
0:10 - Not too much felt. Slight clear headed, 'fresh' feeling if anything.
Rack up again. 2 lines, again, 1-2 on the KBS, slightly thicker.
Bosh them, again I choke, still getting use to the way to bosh it.
0:20 - Feel much more now. Now I've tried a fair bit of street Cocaine of various prices and never felt much from it at all. My feel when the second 2 lines hit was, "This feels like what I imagined Coke to feel like". Nice smooth buzz. Stimulated and talkative.
0:30 - Go to meet my friend briefly to give him half a gram of this stuff. Can feel it a little more prominently when I meet up with him and stand in the cold chatting to him about it.
Only outside for about 5 mins. Go back home and return to sitting in bed and go on my laptop.
1:30 - Drinking on this seems fine, obviously wouldn't over do it.
Been on my laptop and intermittently watching TV. Concentration is easy however as with most stims occasional distraction occurs. For example, for the past hour I've been trying to install a HD texture pack to Minecraft (new to MC so was learning how to do it and what was needed to support HD textures etc) and whilst doing this my attention went from doing said subject to watching TV, Million Pound Drop
1:45 - Decide to have some more, 2 lines, 1-3 on the KBS. Manage to get the hang of sniffing it, no choke this time. Hits again with a nice buzz. Seems the longer the pause between dosages the better, now that seems like an obvious statement but bare in mind this can be a bingey chemical and you may try to get a higher/better buzz by taking more immediately after the first dose hits.
2:00 Onward - Same shit really, realised there isn't much more to this chemical. Been doing a lot of stuff on my laptop (no fapping xD), even opened Photoshop for the first time in ages to do a small request for someone.
Now, this chem, despite how minor and subtle the buzz is, has an alarming amount of residual stim. Was up till 4am on this one. Took 2 Etizolam's at about 2am and they seemed to add to the stimulation if anything as I felt a fair bit of euphoria after taking them, more so than when I take Etzi's on their own. At 3am I thought I'd try to drink more booze to send me off but again, didn't really help (I imagine a whole bottle of wine might have done the trick but I hate the headaches you get off wine, especially when a stim is involved in the mix). Finally, just before 4am I took 2 Valiums (my last ) ROA for the Valium was sublingual which works best I find, hits you like a rock and 'lights out'.
In the morning I felt fairly groggy, however I was coming down with a cold and always feel very dopey and mongey after taking valium. After a cup of coffee and a bite to eat I was absolutely fine.
Conclusion
Might not be for everyone, hence the variety of positive and negative reports. Like I said, I've never felt much, if anything off Cocaine and Ethylphenidate felt what I expected coke to feel like. The residual stim is a bitch so stock up on benzo's if your planning on sleeping on the night.
I can imagine it being a good alternative to coke on a night out at the pub or whatever, but don't get your hopes up if your planning a huge buzz that you can keep chasing all night.
Well, I think that about sums it up. First trip report I've ever written so hope it's ok.
Cheers!
This report will be fairly short as the compound itself seems to be fairly uninteresting.
Subject Info
21 y/o, Male, 10 Stone, Lefthanded.
Experience
MDMA, Mephedrone, Methylone, 4-MEC, 'B2', Ketamine, Methoxetamine, 2C-B, 2C-E, Cocaine, Etizolam, Valium, Cannabis, 6-APB, Speed, BZP and probably various other substances sold as something else.
Setting
Just having a chilled end to the weekend at home with a few beers with the girlfriend.
Report
Info: Times inaccurate as this report is from memory. Was previously at a pub in town after work having a couple of pints, so 2 pints down already. Girlfriend is pretty pissy with me taking stuff now. She used to enjoy taking stuff with me (especially B2) but she wants to give up but I'm not really ready for that as I don't find it a personal problem. Get home and crush a small amount out (eyeballed) and crack open a couple of cans for me and my girlfriend. Girlfriend gets in a bit of a mood because I'm taking shit but it's nothing too major.
Harm reduction: Never eyeball dosages. My friend had the scales I usually use but I've read up on this compound and feel it'll be fairly easy for me to eyeball a suitable dose.
'Keyboard scale (KBS)' - A rough scale I personally came up with for measuring line length. The length from one numerical key to another on a keyboard. (I know size varies but like I said, a rough scale)
0:00 - Insufflate small amount for allergy test. Thin line, 1-2 on the keyboard scale. Instantly made me choke. It seems once this compound is crushed down it's so thin it hits the throat very easily.
Totally have to change the way I usually bosh to compensate for this. I find the best method is to sniff very slowly and gently, even more gentle than if you were breathing through your nose normally.
0:10 - Not too much felt. Slight clear headed, 'fresh' feeling if anything.
Rack up again. 2 lines, again, 1-2 on the KBS, slightly thicker.
Bosh them, again I choke, still getting use to the way to bosh it.
0:20 - Feel much more now. Now I've tried a fair bit of street Cocaine of various prices and never felt much from it at all. My feel when the second 2 lines hit was, "This feels like what I imagined Coke to feel like". Nice smooth buzz. Stimulated and talkative.
0:30 - Go to meet my friend briefly to give him half a gram of this stuff. Can feel it a little more prominently when I meet up with him and stand in the cold chatting to him about it.
Only outside for about 5 mins. Go back home and return to sitting in bed and go on my laptop.
1:30 - Drinking on this seems fine, obviously wouldn't over do it.
Been on my laptop and intermittently watching TV. Concentration is easy however as with most stims occasional distraction occurs. For example, for the past hour I've been trying to install a HD texture pack to Minecraft (new to MC so was learning how to do it and what was needed to support HD textures etc) and whilst doing this my attention went from doing said subject to watching TV, Million Pound Drop
1:45 - Decide to have some more, 2 lines, 1-3 on the KBS. Manage to get the hang of sniffing it, no choke this time. Hits again with a nice buzz. Seems the longer the pause between dosages the better, now that seems like an obvious statement but bare in mind this can be a bingey chemical and you may try to get a higher/better buzz by taking more immediately after the first dose hits.
2:00 Onward - Same shit really, realised there isn't much more to this chemical. Been doing a lot of stuff on my laptop (no fapping xD), even opened Photoshop for the first time in ages to do a small request for someone.
Now, this chem, despite how minor and subtle the buzz is, has an alarming amount of residual stim. Was up till 4am on this one. Took 2 Etizolam's at about 2am and they seemed to add to the stimulation if anything as I felt a fair bit of euphoria after taking them, more so than when I take Etzi's on their own. At 3am I thought I'd try to drink more booze to send me off but again, didn't really help (I imagine a whole bottle of wine might have done the trick but I hate the headaches you get off wine, especially when a stim is involved in the mix). Finally, just before 4am I took 2 Valiums (my last ) ROA for the Valium was sublingual which works best I find, hits you like a rock and 'lights out'.
In the morning I felt fairly groggy, however I was coming down with a cold and always feel very dopey and mongey after taking valium. After a cup of coffee and a bite to eat I was absolutely fine.
Conclusion
Might not be for everyone, hence the variety of positive and negative reports. Like I said, I've never felt much, if anything off Cocaine and Ethylphenidate felt what I expected coke to feel like. The residual stim is a bitch so stock up on benzo's if your planning on sleeping on the night.
I can imagine it being a good alternative to coke on a night out at the pub or whatever, but don't get your hopes up if your planning a huge buzz that you can keep chasing all night.
Well, I think that about sums it up. First trip report I've ever written so hope it's ok.
Cheers!
