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(Ethylone/Cannabis - Inexperienced/experienced) - Low Dose Experiment

yucatanboy2

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EDIT: Second experience posted below with a higher dose.

I did this experiment a few weeks ago, I will be exploring higher doses later.

Background: Male, late 20s, has been taking substances for over 10 years, 230lbs, 6'1"

I got some ethylone to try, having heard its a weaker version of methylone (which I have not tried), which is a weaker version of mdma.

I tried a 10mg allergy test dose a week prior to this experiment (ALWAYS START LOW WITH RCS!!!), and didn't feel anything (although going to bed that night I was smiling and said "I feel good". No effects at all.

Goal: looking for a substance I can take and go out to a club/bar and have a good time, not a "i'm rolling balls!" but a "I feel good and I am enjoying myself". I wanted something short acting, and relatively mild. I don't want something that'll overstimulate or overintoxicate me.

Experiment:
At home on a weekend, relaxing, I had eaten a good sized meal earlier, and had taken my vitamins and was caffeinated at my usual level (coffee).

1pm
Dose 35 mg ethylone (that is a threshold/low dose compared to the reports I've read here and on erowid)
I expect to feel something in about an hour
The powder tastes plastic, tingly, numbing and bitter.

1:25pm
Had an emergen-C vitamin drink, still no noticable effects

1:45pm
I start feeling light, loose, and strong. I like this feeling :). This reminds of one of my favorite feelings I get from e. I do some stretching and it feels really good. This bodes well.

My dad calls, and I answer and have a conversation with him. I feel normal talking on the phone, and don't feel like I am talking too much or anxious or anything. I actually feel relaxed.

2:05pm
I smoke two hit of medium cannabis (medical, not that great stuff). I don't really feel the cannabis, I just feel more awake. Its not a pushy/stimulated feeling though, just awake.

2:10pm
I take 100 mg 5htp and 2.4 mg piracetam (normal amounts I take daily). The cannabis and ethylone combo is growing. Now I feel it. I feel good and when I close my eyes I see some mild patterning, which is cool. I am feeling some anxious energy, which is likely from the cannabis.

2:41pm
During the last half hour the feelings are about the same, still have some mild patterning when I close my eyes. Somewhat trippy.

3:15pm
The cannabis takes over and I get the munchies and eat some food.

3:30pm
Feel down from the high, had a glass of wine.

Conclusion:
I definitely took a threshold/very low dose. Next time I will double the dose to about 70 mg or so I think. It seems to be short acting and not stimulating (again, which is something I want). I really liked that "I feel good and strong" feeling I got after about an hour. Potentially good for dancing.

I will post my next explorations when they occur.
 
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Here's a follow up experiment:
Sunday night, went out to a warehouse burningman-esque techno party, and took 88mg (a little over twice the previous dose) in a capsule just before driving there (ok, I know driving under the influence is very bad, but the drive took 15 min, and I knew it wouldn't kick in right away because it was in a capsule and I had just had some food)

We got there and had a drink (my wife and I were drinking greyhounds, I drank only a little, she drank more)

T+1hr
1hr after dosing - I feel light and energized. I notice I have a high body temp, but I have three layers on and have been dancing, so I take two layers off. Everything seems to have an internal energy and is very clear and in focus.

T+1h25min
The internal monologue I usually get on e is in full effect. Very awake internally, thinking about various things. I can conversate normally but there is no push to do so. Definite time dilation (time seems to be going much slower)

T+1hr35min
I go to the bathroom and notice my pupils are dilated. A song comes on that I love and my head explodes in a tingling sensation while I am dancing (Cleveland Lounge - Drowning). I'm loving my earplugs, I can dance and talk and not be blasted away (Etymotic Research High Fidelity earplugs), and the sound is balanced well. There is absolutely no push to socialize even though lots of people are (I'm pretty introverted normally).

T+2hr35min
Took a small hit of weed, and I just feel good and level and content. Its a smooth drug, with a smooth come up and smooth experience. I predict a smooth come down. My wife is getting pretty bubbly and drunk. I've been enjoying dancing and watching my shadow projected on the wall. Dancing with my shadow is fun.

At t+3h, my back starts hurting, probably because I spent several house cleaning the house earlier and I think i tweaked it.

At t+3h15min I yawn. its a sunday, i'm tired (but not super sleepy or drunk although I have had like 3 drinks). My wife is pretty trashed. I drive her home, and the drive is fine (Again, driving on substances is bad, but was on a low dose, and it was down, and I felt very awake and would have passed a breathalyzer... had I felt higher, I would have stayed longer and drank water).

I really like this drug. i think 100mg would be perfect for a night out like this. Look forward to more fun enjoyable smooth nights. This stuff is definitely smooth and mellow compared to mdma.
 
i like reading these reports!
thanks for keeping us updated on the experiments...

must say im intrigued by this, but it does sound a lot like mdai in some respects, perhaps a bit milder even....

any unpleasant side effects? like say, sweating? or cotton mouth?

id get some, but at 2h, the duration is quite short....
 
The duration is more like 3.5 with an afterglow that lasts a while. Negative side effects seemed minimal at the doses I tried. I think my next dose will be 125, and I have a feeling that will be the sweet spot, above which some of the usual amphetamine-like side effects will manifest. I've got a cold now, so not going to try it again for a while
 
Followup FYI I took >200 mg (ca. 220) at a festival in combo with some other drugs and blacked out I was so high. Basically I was running around completely e-tarded out of my mind. I think I should have stuck with a 150mg dose and not gone over. I had also had a few drinks (bad idea to combo) and some weed. And maybe nitrous.
 
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