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Entheo's HOT-7 reaction

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The following first 44 posts of this thread were excised from the PD social thread so don't be surprised if there are interjections of social or semi OT talk. But basically it seems the premise is that entheo ingested 56 mg of HOT-7 (and if I am not mistaken there were other drugs in his system taken before, during or at the very least after adverse effects presented, such as benzo's for damage control). The adverse effects are at one point described as follows, but are not necessarily limited to this:

Terrifying gastric pain/emisis and partial convulsions.
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As is implicitly the case with every HOT-7 ingestion is the question of identity or purity considering HOT-7 may be quite sensitive to conversion to 2C-T-7. A lot still seems to be unknown about the exact conditions that may cause this conversion and 2C-T-7 doesn't have a particularly clean track record either. So, attempting to analyze and explain what happened to entheo may be inevitably complicated to begin with. Let me just stop right there since my personal interpretations and opinions are appropriate to put into my own posts. (Tho for the record I am sorry you had to experience these bad effects man)

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Roger&Me said:
jealous got llama strapped

he jus mad cuz u shinin bro
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Oh shit! Big Rog is on that Spice 1 tip!

Help me out guys, I'm pretty sure I wanna trip tonight but I'm down to only 2 compounds as my MET and 5-MeO-MiPT hasn't come in yet. I'm thinking either 65mg 2C-C up the nose or 55mg HOT-7 orally. What sounds more novel, and hopefully earth shattering to you guys?
 
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entheo said:
I'm sorry for giving you so much shit over the last 18 months or so in TL. I never knew it went down like that.
Maybe you can apply for voc rehab like I am, or some form of non-government educational funding.
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like i always say in the lounge.... (paraphrased tool line...) "all you know about me's what i told ya"

most of the current loungers are in their late teens/early 20s.... i'm not too much older at the age of 27, but there's a big difference between being out of high school for 3 years and being out for 10 years. i just hope my mistakes can serve as a warning.... i see a lot of younger loungers going down the same stupid path i went down though. :/

entheo said:
Help me out guys, I'm pretty sure I wanna trip tonight but I'm down to only 2 compounds as my MET and 5-MeO-MiPT hasn't come in yet. I'm thinking either 65mg 2C-C up the nose or 55mg HOT-7 orally. What sounds more novel, and hopefully earth shattering to you guys?
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the HOT-7 would probably be more earth shattering.... can always snort some 2C-C later if the HOT-7 doesn't get you as far as you'd like to go
 
^ well I dropped out about 6 years ago, so I'm not a teenager but I get what you mean. I feel like a lot of stupidity increasing around those parts, especially as more time from the bottle goes by. I mean, I am obviously a GABAergic addict-benzos especially, but the haze is beginning to clear a bit. On the other hand depression and realization are creeping in on the fact that I've made some really bad choices in life and done bad things to people. Things I don't like to relive in my mind or on any board...

As for the HOT-7, I can sense an endless amount of potentially the one time I took a full dose my heart was pounding so hard I could feel it inky temples. Not a lot of visual activity at 40mgs orally, but that's a rather low dose of a phenethylamine compared to how I normally dose. What do you think man, a 55mg bomb and possibly sniff 12-15mg of 2C-C if I'm not where I wanna be? 2C-C is such a gem, and I will inevitably have to restock with a few more grams but I really don't have the cash at the momement and you never know when your supply will disappear.

Chaz you eve get around to T-7? I know you post about 2C-T-4 in TL the other day but I always thought propyl was your alkyl of choice. If HOT-2 ever comes my way I'm 5 grams deep I can say that right now, 2C-T-2 is 2nd only to LSD for me I think.
 
entheo said:
Oh shit! Big Rog is on that Spice 1 tip!
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bro i got 4 vinyl copies of "strap on the side" single, one of them mint, and i got 2 vinyl copies of "welcome to the ghetto" single, one of them mint. and i got all his cd's, lol. spice 1 is one of the best, imho. so underrated, him and too $hort are the kind of rappers that other rappers listen to. strap on the side is one of my favorite rap songs ever tbh.
 
entheo said:
Chaz you eve get around to T-7? I know you post about 2C-T-4 in TL the other day but I always thought propyl was your alkyl of choice. If HOT-2 ever comes my way I'm 5 grams deep I can say that right now, 2C-T-2 is 2nd only to LSD for me I think.
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T-2 is the only one of the "classic" 2C-T-x's that i never got around to.... i only had one 2C-T-7 experience, which was awesome.... and quite a few 2C-T-4/2C-T-21 experiences.

2C-T-4 might edge of 2C-P for me, but it was never readily available so i don't know for sure. phen trips for me, especially 2C-T-x trips, can vary so much from experience to experience even at the same dose.... so its hard to say for sure.

i've never tried 2C-C, but i would really like to.
 
You missed out man, I'd say that T-2 is an A+ in all areas besides the neusea factor. Mixed with LSD it's like a beacon or the aliens lol. How were your other explorations with alkylthio 2C's? 2C-T-21 kind of scares me, I don't know about both fluorine and sulfur in one compound. If low to hear about your phenethylamine trials.

As for 2C-C is far superior to all of the halogenated phenethylamine psychedelics, you just have to be willing to use a substantial amount I material. It's got goo vibes written all over it and the visuals are fucking amazing. It's got a really unique aural effect to it as well, the neon green and yellow visuals pulsate to it. Almost like dub music but not quite.
 
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2C-T-21 was awesome imo. "flourine and sulfur in one compound" doesn't mean a lot, its just unique for a psychedelic since they tend to have pretty basic structures.... looking at other drug classes: etizolam has sulfur and chlorine, for example, and appears to be no more dangerous than other GABAergics.

i took 2C-T-21 to a higher dosage than Shulgin suggested.... took it as high as 22mg, and it got pretty visual, and very spacey in a vaguely dissociative way. that was a good 6 years ago, though, so the memories are vague... and i didn't write up any detailed trip reports unfortunately. at higher doses, though, it is very much active as a psychedelic similar to the other 2C's... and with a distinct but mild flavor at lower dosages, as Shulgin described.... 2C-T-21 is a very versatile and under-explored chemical IMO
 
^ I understand the etiz plan reference, but the electronegativity of adding a halogen onto an alkylthio group is just a bit daunting considering how basic, yet profound these chemicals are. I guess I sort f understand voltage gated ion channels better than 5HTA agonism better though....

Hmmm I wonder what they higher doses of 2C-T-21 would lead to if only 22mgs had a sort of dissociative effect. It's fairly long acting iirc?

Well guess just dosed 56mg HOT-7 orally about 15 minutes ago, the plan is to watch Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows Part 1 and we will see where it goes from there. Hopefully I don need to add 2C-C to the equation, I'm running dangerously low on my sacrament.
 
would expect t-21 to be something like t-2 tbh (never done t-21), maybe some type of linear combination of t-7 and t-2 effects. adding an alkylthio-F out there on the 4 position should be pretty similar to just alkylthio. you gotta remember that while F is very electronegative it is very small and is neither hydrophilic nor hydrophobic and is actually pretty similar to just an H in terms of pharmacology

my SARwizard skillz are rusty as fuck just fyi, i really should read pihkal again or something
 
Well my ~50mgs HOT-7 ended horribly. Terrifying gastric pain/emisis and partial convulsions. I'm not convinced this is a safe psychedelic for further human biassoys
 
^ not enough. Already had to burn 1/4 of my months benzos just feel 'slightly' better.
Id be at the hospital but I have a ton of clonazepam on hand and my brother is on stand by

Either this synth was botched or HOT-7 is toxic, felt it in all my trials tonight being the last
 
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Pretty ungodly bad. Like I think it may not have been washed correctly. I'm actually still experiencing internal pain, especially in the general region of my liver, like it induced acute hepatitis. Still have been getting 'serotonin syndrome like' abdominal cramps and brain zaps. Lasting dissociation and anxiety as well. You know I've dosed way higher on other compounds, it's a mystery. The peripheral side effects got worse after when the peak should have occurred as well. Mr. Roger helped me calm down a lot though. He's a stellar guy.

And I didn't even get past a ++. It's either a garbage compound, bad synth, or I have some latent medical issues that I'm unaware of.
 
dude

that was the day after thanksgiving, right?

lots of monoamines in turkey supposedly, perhaps those bad effects were due to having a thanksgiving dinner the day before dosing an MAOI
 
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I didn't consume turkey because it was all gone by the Ike I got to it. But I assume the excess tryptophan/tyrosine could make a difference. I just don't know if it would be clinically significant.

The experience was very strange, definite phenethylamine appearance, taste, texture, visuals... But the somatic effects were so I intensely painful. I passed the HOT-7 onto Marijuanster; but he has no interest in bioassaying it any time soon either.
He was with me for the experience and noted that I was in obvious dysfomfort but my cognitive faculties were about 75% intact. That doesn't jive for what should be the highest recorded dose ever consumed from what I've read.

Idk Ill stick to the MET I just got and reup on 2C-C. Maybe it'll make it's way to the Chaz someday :)
 
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