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Enlightenment Finally!

Hey man we are what we see. Not in words but in reality.

You can learn from everyone and everything, because you already know. Thoughts don't come from the external, they bubble up from the Now if you want them to.

I just came back to say that its happening faster. I realize that to really really really let go and enter total fucking crazy world I have to fully reject what I see and hear. Like not reject but sort of "leap into". And it's basically the other dimension I have to learn how to create on my own. And it's exactly what Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy was talking about. "We" don't even Realize we create it. And the only way to START creating is to totally leave the We behind.

In fucking sane. I can't wait to play god, gonna try to lose it completely brb.
 
Hemiechinus said:
You can learn from everyone and everything, because you already know. Thoughts don't come from the external, they bubble up from the Now if you want them to.
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And if you don't? Does that stop them?
In fucking sane. I can't wait to play god, gonna try to lose it completely brb.
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What? LOL.
 
MDPVagrant said:
Why are you cramming this guy into a "way," a predefined path? Did he say he was a Zen Buddhist? I must have missed something...
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I'm giving an example that happens to be from the zen tradtion. The term 'Way' is a much used working definition of the path someone travels to realization. The term actually was adopted by Chinese ch'an (zen in Japan) from the earlier Taoists.
 
speaking of the tao...
The more you use it, the more it produces;
the more you talk of it, the less you understand.
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I haven't yet seen anywhere where you've explained or cited examples how your enlightenment has changed the way you live your life....your just....theorizing....and talking.
 
Harry potter is going to die.

HAH.

Poor kiddie, he'll be ok.

And by killing harry, voldemort himself dies.
They become one person in death,
the troubles are solved.

I'm not kidding.
Or am i?

How many people does it take to screw in a lightbulb? How many does it take to run from it.

42.
4.2.0.
0.

ITS IN THE ZERO.
 
Yah Hemiechinus, FWIW this is looking a bit strained. 'Crazy wisdom' is one thing, plain insanity is another.. LOL.

But feel free to knock yourself out if you like - people actually say a lot dumber sh*t around here (mostly in the Lounge). I'd rather read you than "Blah bleh p*ssy c*nt d*ck f*ck" type posts.
 
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I always come to conclusions like this on the tale end of trips. My friend and I go on for hours just blown away by our new conclusions. It's really difficult to explain this to someone who dosn't understand where your coming from.
 
Different vibrational levels of trust, it's all in the pudding.
We have one heart, and together we are the same person.
Everything you're reading right now is in fact coming from you.
It's what you needed to hear. It's the basic message that really needed to get through, and it works with absolutely everything in the physical world.

I'm still dealing with this, but I know the moment I let go I'm going to get as small as an atom and as big as the universe. The next step.
 
Zophen if you really want to transcend your body you can do it.
You don't have to wait until your body goes naturally, you can do it from the vantage point you're at now.

Psychedelics are merely trying to teach you how to take control of the powers that Be and understand your subconscious conditioning better.

What's really really funny is how much society advertises the same concepts, we all want the same thing and advertisers know Where it is but not What it is.
Go FURTHER.
 
and I'm pretty sure if you wait until you die then you have to be reborn and take the whole human journey over again until you figure it out on your own without being involved in the sins of adam and eve.

We have to sort of "deal" with the conditioning, it's the focus of our lives to overcome it entirely even to the point of time and space.

The thing with enlightened "Zen Masters" is that most of them are only half enlightened, they're only halfway Down the mountain. That's why jesus was around 30 when he started preaching, he wasn't actually fully in tune with the possibilities. He made a huge fuss and then his own glamour over being half-enlightened went all the way to the crucifixion.

For some reason it seems to go in waves of 15, you start to really get into the possibilities of rebelling against your own mind then and then it reawakens at 30, sort of like a natural time urge.

But the thing is, All of life is merely telling you the same concept.
Every single goddamn movie, every single story you've EVER SEEN has been about the same thing.

Thing about it like What Dreams May Come.
The guy was actually painting his own world, most of it based on stuff he'd already seen.

But the real trick is to go back and rescue the chaotic part completely, to fully get in touch to the highest level your Soul and enter into pure creation, unlimited and infinite rather than held onto by the clutches.

You gotta really really really give in.

A few tricks are what you already know, just dealing with your mindtalk and meditating, but another really good one is crossing your eyes and then relaxing, like the Huna meditation. It's slow at first but then it starts picking up speed and suddenly theres this Shift into 3rd dimensional consciousness. With practice, you start staying there and your imagination becomes as real as anything. And then eventually you get so into it that it shifts into higher and higher levels all the way up 9. Nine lives.
1, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000.
 
The message is really there in music too, because we listen to it so much.

Check out the lyrics of the mr. bungle song:
Your lips say one thing
But the drugs say another
How can I massage
This inter-galactic ulcer?

Goodbye sober day

Hello milky way...

Pin my ear to the wisdom post
Hang me up and drain me dry
Mend my shipwrecked spirit
Lift the veil from my eyes




not mr. bungle: Theres a pit and a pendulum. The pit is in your stomach, it's your will power, it's the ulcer of bowel cancer. The pendulum is time, always swinging into our memory, never just lived completely Here, Now, contolled and yet completely at the mercy of One Moment.
 
zophen said:
Thanks for the vote of confidence. :-) That aside I can 'do it' with sufficient psychedelic, yes, but as to without, I ain't that enlightened. Hope springs eternal though.
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I'd put my money on you getting 'there' first, mate - you've glimpsed it enough times already.

This poor sod's getting lost in a labyrinth of his own creating.

Hermiechinus, me old boy - take a break, eh?

No rush.

Steady, Eddie.

You'll get there in the end.

We don't need to know the workings.

Luvya.
 
Yeah, that is true.... no need to know the machine, it's enough just to have a spaceship.

Thanks fishy! ~
 
zophen said:
^ Take your time, I'd guess if you exist in physical form then you're meant to do that until such time as you die or whatever.
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I used to believe (or pretend, or think) perhaps on enlightenment I would physically fade out of existence... at some point that's what I actually wanted, LOL.

My, how things change... a very silly idea, that is. People have all sorts of strange ideas about so-called enlightenment. Anyone who believes the bodymind is transformed and vanishes, or leaves the realm of 'maya' somehow may want to examine that belief, and why there's so much attachment to the body and to thought (and related personal identity).
 
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I reckon that maybe you'll, [not you personally Hemiechinus :-)] just get all calm and happy and non attatched to this reality, realising that you probably are highly unlikely to succeed in attempting to 'enlighten' others. A process which I assume occurs internally anyway.
 
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