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Enlightenment Finally!

Hemiechinus

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It took "me" so long to find the right teacher, the right sensibilities that let me let go.
The ultimate question of man is in fact the question of identity, and I finally realized who we all really are.
We are god.
We are the Void, Space, we are Nothingness which allows Everything into being.
And when the body that my nothingness is constructed out of "dies" or dissolves persay, my reality doesn't "stop" it merely goes back to eternity. These are really really simple concepts that cannot be accomplished within the constantly chattering mind. You must empty your mind, your memories, all the thought loops you're stuck in, and then realize what your center of being is, who you've been all along.

If you want a totally enlightening expirience, something that finally "unifies" you,
meditate for about three hours and try to get as peaceful as possible with the chattering mind.
And then go here http://www.headless.org/english-new/homepage.html

It is such a simple concept and it is free. Do some of the expiriments, and don't judge anything you're doing. Try to remain as open minded as possible, and just soak in as much of the Truth as you can, until you sink into it, and let go.

I was blown away by the simple pointing expirement,
and completely gone with the seeing expirement.

It was like my biggest fear was that I had to Be something,
I couldn't just be Nothing. I was always trapping myself in form, in thought, in reaction, rather than accepting the complete ordinary nothingness that is total zen. The space between thoughts.

I understand what psychedelics were always trying to teach me,
and before it was almost like a big joke. Without enlightenment psychedelics are like poking holes in things until you pretend you've poked a hole in yourself.
You dont need ANYTHING to do this, its so fucking simple. Simpler than anything you've ever done before. The essence of simplicity.

It's almost like zoning out. We're taught in school and at home that the only way to do things is to constantly be Active in our heads, constantly Look for an answer or a form that appeases those around us and eventually appeases the person we think we are.

But it was all a dream.

It took me a while to get here,
and I'm sure with practice I will be absolutely autonomous,
total Zen,
but the first awakening is all that's needed to be conscious of what all the spiritual masters were talking about.

If you post after this that I'm not enlightened,
you yourself are not aware of enlightenment.
I can lecture and run and think,
but it is the awareness of Being,
of Self,
that is eternally awake, not under the influence of the buzzing seeker.

I am god, and so are all of you.

Life is absolutely fantastic, and today was the most beautiful day i've ever had. I feel like Im in the garden of eden again,
I feel like i'm a child tripping to the sounds of silence.

Of course there is no Me feeling anything,
but its still fantastic just to realize that my false self' search is over,
that theres no more pain,
no more frustration or confrontation with anything in my life anymore.
I realized Buddha.

Everything makes absolute sense, and it's astoundingly clear.
Total empathy.

Check that site out, all of you,
it is absolutely wonderfully clear.
It is like if Zen stopped being a dick and just said it straight up,
when in reality its You stopping the dicking of your mind and being straight up.
But its the simplicity in his teachings and the actual usage of them that makes things so obvious, as they always were.

If you are not enlightened, you don't understand the word Concentration.
Con (with) Centration. I never did and now things flow because theres no one judging anything, no obstacle or filter my being has to go through. I am divinely pure with the moment.

I suppose i'll write a few books now,
and make some money so that I can forget about money and just spread the word. And you know whats Really divine? All books are holy. It's like the essence of your self is in fact god, and god lives in a structure that is in fact Non-structure. Because of this, all books are only telling the story of how one overcomes the psychological stressor, longer books are merely more of the pattern. Like the stock market, pattern within pattern, it's all the same process. Once you get the message, Hang up the phone.

Theres a reason you hang up the phone.
So noone starts talking your ear off! =D
 
Also, don't expect the world to "break" or "freak out" when you enter enlightenment. It's not like everything is dramatic.
It is the first awakening that comes like a bolt of lightning, and then with practice you learn to control the lightning and finally "you" are no longer controlling anything. "You" stop existing. Death, really. It seemed so scary before but now it makes total surrender the absolute reason for living.

As you gradually realize self-lessness you envelop yourself more and more in the eternal wisdom, and structure breaks down more and more.
Eventually "my" expirience will be like that of... laughing. When you laugh spontaneously you "lose" a lot of yourself. Its quite a bit like that.

I did laugh a lot when I realized the Truth.

It seemed so... sad... to think of not caring, but they are only constructs of thought. Once you get into the state of samadhi, nothingness, etc, you still "care" but you no longer are trying to "drive" that care. You're not at the whim of your emotions or your old structure.
Theres really no more reason to continue this, just try and let yourself out and you'll come to understand precisely what all of Gods have been getting at.
 
Oh! One more thing!
Carlos castaneda wasnt kidding when he said that with his truth comes incredible powers. When in Zen, my body is like a machine. I am like Neo. If I want to shoot a basketball, I do it. If an enlightened being fights, or aims, or anything, they will be supernaturally perfect at it. It is like there is no one doing it, it's just a body.

I'm not saying you could jump 40 feet in the air,
but something like say, climbing a tree,
could be done instantaneously. Theres no more hesitation or process, you just Become the act.
Like a musician who loses himself in the music he's hearing, and forgets that he's actually playing it.

This is the easiest and yet hardest thing to do it seems,
and we're all waiting for you to let go.
 
It's much easier to convince yourself that you're enlightened, than to convince anyone else.

I wish you the best.
 
You must give up the Glamour of Faith in order to live the Truth.
It is the last trick of the mind, the last petty thread that we allow in our self-concept, that we are unequal to everything and therefore need to "save" someone, by telling them they dont understand. If you find yourself doing this, realize it.
We are all enlightened,
it is just the act of Being that the mind has such a hard time submitting to.
The act of Dying in the State of Nothingness.

"Controlled or not controlled?
The same dice shows two faces.
Not controlled or controlled,
Both are a grievous error."
 
Pointing out directions are great, especially when they tie in to a useful construct. Sri Ramana Maharshi is probably one of the better known Guru's famous for his pointing out instructions; definately worth a visit. "The Simple Feeling of Being" is also another good one.
 
"The Simple Feeling of Being" is also another good one.

I was telling a mate about this earlier, when i just remembered how to experience that, true freedom i must say.
 
"We are god."

No. I think there is no God, I KNOW we are no God/Gods.

The only thing we create is through our body, which is a conduit through which our mind flows. It does NOT flow without the physical body; reality has never been and will never be altered by consciousness, only ones EXPERIENCE will be altered, solipsism is an absurd and oftentimes disturbing spiritual/philosophical path which has been rebuked many a times.
 
AcidRain said:
...sounds like enlightenment to me...

Being enlightened has nothing to do with living in poverty.
In fact being enlightened has more to do with living in extreme self-granted wealth, a wealth that transcends all material falsehoods.
It is your own false-ego assumptions that create a negative or positive label to things, when things themselves are Self-neutral.

It is such a simple thing.
We are not "god" because in the ego rational mind "god" means Something.
But when you understand your True Self, the Void the Awareness the complete Compassionate Lover, then you realize the un-literal and yet absolutely literal translation of all religion.
We are speaking in terms of Words right now, and as you're reading these words, where do you think they come from? Do you find them issuing from the light in front of your eyes, or do they not in fact emerge as an illusion of temporary "presence" in the light of what you really are? And when you stop reading, stop paying limited attention, dont these words "dissapear" into silence? Is not this silence the very essence of what you and all of the world has been the whole time? And the "light" of awareness, is it not the Love, the Creation of God that allows you an infinitely undefinable yet simplistically acheivable state of being?

When people say, quiet your mind, they arent telling you to stop perceiving. They are only trying to let you come to one of the most obvious truths in whole of existence, that You, are in fact, Nothing. When you say in your mind, I am Cool, does this thought not dissapear as soon as you stop clinging to it? And what is left? You. The place where that thought emerged.

Taking this further, if you are in fact nothing, pure awareness, and the mind is actually a concentration of atoms allowing this awareness a "vessel" through the universe, then technically you are not only time travelling, but the world itself is You. You are at the "heart" the "soul" of every single facet of the jewel that is the world.
And once realized, truly and completely given in to over a long enough period of time, the old concept of "cup" being a "shape, color, construct" in your awareness starts to dissipate. The truth to the Sea of Reality becomes more provoked, and you start losing your hold on Judgement more and more as you keep your Zen, your Awareness of Awareness of Awareness, and the ego becomes less of a obstacle.

Go to Headless.org and do the expirements.
They use the most simple and yet completely inspiring simplistically fundamental ways of showing you who you really are. And they back it up afterwards rather well with appropriate quotes from other Realized Beings, masters of Awareness. And suddenly, you will find that your life previously was only a dream, a big problem that was always finding itself over and over again, seeking this odd Self that was never to be, never true.

Afterwards, don't give up. It might provoke a little anxiety at first, because of the amount of difference it will make in your life, and a sense of Loss that accompanies the truth. But persevere, and every moment will grow into unending bliss, devoid of concerns and merely being alive as your only job.

Religion is only trying to show you this same idea, but we never end up with Buddha consciousness because of our Pre-conceptions. We think that there is some "shift" or gigantic cataclysmic PORTAL INTO INFINITY. When in fact it was there all along, idly unaware of itself into you gave it a chance to just Be.
 
"He, then, is very unwise who, when sweetness and spiritual delight fail him, thinks for that reason that God has abandoned him; and when he finds them again, rejoices and is glad, thinking that he has in that way come to possess God.

More unwise still is he who goes about seeking for sweetness in God, rejoices in it, and dwells upon it; for in so doing he is not seeking after God with the will grounded in the emptiness of faith and charity, but only in spiritual sweetness and delight, which is a created thing, following herein in his own will and fond pleasure. It is impossible for the will to attain to the sweetness and bliss of the divine union otherwise than in detachment.
................................................... St. John of the Cross

The goods of God, which are beyond all measure, can only be contained in an empty and solitary heart.
...................................................St. John of the Cross"
 
Do you realize how much you sound like a narcissistic ass?

You sound like a cliched guru from a bad b movie.

"But when you understand your True Self, the Void the Awareness the complete Compassionate Lover, then you realize the un-literal and yet absolutely literal translation of all religion." lmao...

""He, then, is very unwise who, when sweetness and spiritual delight fail him, thinks for that reason that God has abandoned him; and when he finds them again, rejoices and is glad, thinking that he has in that way come to possess God."

vs.

"We are god."

ummm yeah... nice one.
 
"We are god."

No. I think there is no God, I KNOW we are no God/Gods.
i don't have the time to really read the thread right now, buti noticed this, so

several (many) posters here will have understood what he meant by "we are god"

like you, i know there is no god... in the sense that religions give to the word god

but as many others, and as the OP apparently (sorry again, i didn't read the whole post) i have felt that we were not just independent individuals, but that we were part of a whole... of the whole, of the universe

in fact, we are not individuals whose sum make up the universe, but we are the whole universe, only able to be self-aware through its individuals

in this sense, as different leaves on the same tree are not 2 different entities but are parts of the same tree... are the same tree, we are not different entities, we are one unique entity experiencing different aspects of its evolution

so to come back to what the OP meant: every each one of us is to the universe what the leaf is to the tree or an arm to a body
and when you consider an arm, you don't see it as a separate part from the body. you consider it as a necessary consituent, not as a disposable part

so we are all the universe
the same universe that apparently was created some 14 billion years ago and which is becoming self-aware through its individuals having such revelations
we are the universe where matter was created, life appeared and consciousness developped

we are this universe, and there is nothing else
there is, as you said, no god, independent from the universe
so we are this universe that keeps evolving and creating

and that's where some people want to insert the word "god"
because the idea of "god" is linked to the idea of "everything" and "creator"

i think that the word "god" has a "clear" definition given by religions and history and that there is no reason to use it for this different concept that i just tried to explain
it would only strip this different concept of its meaning by assimilating it to the classical, religious meaning of "god"

but i see why it's tempting for some people to reclaim the word and apply it to this universal consciousness that we all share
 
Just wait til' the shine wears off- even 'enlightenment' becomes ordinary and boring after you get used to to 'IT';).

Everyone leave him be, he's enjoying his discovery. Just because you may have not experienced the same thing doesn't mean that his statements aren't legitimate.
 
dbailey11 said:
Just wait til' the shine wears off- even 'enlightenment' becomes ordinary and boring after you get used to to 'IT';).

Everyone leave him be, he's enjoying his discovery. Just because you may have not experienced the same thing doesn't mean that his statements aren't legitimate.

The shitty thing is realizing there's no easy way to share your enlightenment with anyone else. It is, by nature, impossible to express accurately through language. Even if you were to succeed in communicating the idea, very few people have reached a point in their development where they'll be remotely capable of understanding your meaning.

It's the reason it's called the secret of life, it's not that people who "get it" are jerks and don't want to spread the gospel, it's just that we recognize the futility of the task. Virtually everyone claiming to be speaking the word of god or explaining the secrets of life is inherently full of shit.
 
Yeah... it is essentially impossible to put awareness into context without running right back through the ego delusion.
But enlightenment does not become "ordinary", because enlightenment is beyond definition. It is Ordinary that enlightenment welcomes with open arms, and it is through accepting that we overcome all stumbling blocks.
Basically... The ego is a very tricky bastard. It is why enlightenment seems so hard a task to "accomplish", it is the reason we seek "it" to begin with.
The very nature of enlightenment is a paradox to the ego, because it is seeking death.

It's like... When donnie darko is asked to explain Watership Down. "Why should we mourn for the death of a rabbit, who, from the beginning, had no fear of death? We are the same. We are conditioned through the ego to Fear death,
and with self-realization comes the end of that fear and the understanding that there is nothing to understand. And then one finds that their whole world was an illusion of beleif and gratification.

Really... enough said. If an ego is fed up with itself it has all the help it needs to die.
It's absurd how easy and yet how hard it was...
one no longer needs Praise or feels Shame,
one realizes the false nature of time and the infinite capabilities of Space.

the only part my ego is still working through is decisions.
If I have no more value system other than Being,
then what do "I" really want from "my" time?
All I can assume is that there are no more "decisions" to make, things will just happen in the moment and "I" will be no more caught in the delusion of hesitation/anxiety.
Eventually "I" will get the hang of complete death, but in the process... "I" verily recognize the conditioned fear. At least "I" am no longer at mercy of it!!

I can see what you mean by Ordinary though. The ego loves Intensity.
 
But...fuck...
What happens when I enter this permanently?
Imean... Death....
It's not... conceivable... Shit now I realize why "donnie" died....

This is going to be... different... 8( 8( 8( 8( ...
 
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