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Energy during opiate withdrawal

I did try Kratom once. It did seem to help with withdrawal but very much like Gabapentin and Clonodine, it made me drowsy. Almost non functioning.

I am seven days clean right now. Started the Suboxone. It has been quite helpful. Some of the side effects are quite bothersome. Really hoping I can get to the bottom of my addiction with therapy and begin to taper off ASAP. Although I am aware recovery shouldn't be rushed.
 
gotit4cheap said:
no one mentioned kratom?? Helps tremendously, especially combined with some good ol cannabis. Taper with the kratom using a little less each day until you feel you don't need it. It doesn't effect the duration of withdrawal like subs or methadone does.
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In my experience kratom did nothing. My brain was way too dependent on the instantaneous activation of the receptors by shooting up to ever feel OK without such an act. :|

If kratom helps you, I think it can be a great tool. It's just wise to realize that it is also addictive and can be habit-forming (some BL members report addiction to kratom).
 
I am really starting to dislike the Suboxone. However, I don't feel I've been to therapy or meetings enough to be strong enough without it. I still have cravings, but knowing the Suboxone will block the opiate effects, I work through my cravings.

I didn't become an addict over night so I know recovery won't happen overnight. I just want to get my life back.
 
Sorry flyhigh146. I am so new to this posting and the rules of when you can, I should have sent here. Did you jump from 4mg a day CT and no choice to taper?
 
flyhigh146 said:
I am really starting to dislike the Suboxone. However, I don't feel I've been to therapy or meetings enough to be strong enough without it. I still have cravings, but knowing the Suboxone will block the opiate effects, I work through my cravings.

I didn't become an addict over night so I know recovery won't happen overnight. I just want to get my life back.
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What dose of sub are you taking? I found the most relief in the 1-2mg a day range. Anything over that had too many nasty side effects.
 
It's really important to understand yourself OP, and I'm glad you do. Even if it is difficult, if you believe it is your best option, stick with it then! Lowering your dose is a really good idea. I also had a lot more success on 2mg a day than higher doses.
 
I'm off the OC, off the Subs (cold turkey) because I wouldn't try Naltrexone. I am really, really struggling with lack of energy today. Caffeine did absolutely nothing. 2,000mg of L Tyrosine actually made me groggy. Gaba made me groggy. Clonodine, groggy. But, other then that and some mental cravings, I have very little withdrawal.
 
Good for you - I'm on week 3 of Suboxone maintenance and just now getting to the point where it's effective without the fear of needing h to ease the transition. I'm only taking 4mg, so I'm hoping I can start to taper pretty soon and avoid any nasty withdrawals. It gives me a good bit of energy, but did make me drowsy the first couple weeks, so I don't know what could help with that. I drink coffee every morning, but that's probably more habit than anything else
 
Adderall did seem to help a bit - I also used to be prescribed it for ADHD, so when a friend offered me a couple, I didn't hesitate to take them. So that might be a viable solution
 
I was on Suboxone for about three weeks. I felt terrible on it. Started to taper when my Sub Dr wanted me to try Naltrexone which was going to send me into miserable withdrawal. No way, no sir. I'll handle normal withdrawal on my own. I do not have a current Dr that will prescribe my Adderall. Lost my job in March, lost my insurance, lost my Adderall scripts, found the world of Oxycontin. Always been one with an addictive personality. Adderall always helped with my impulses. Just scared to take anything that could make withdrawal worse.
 
In my own experience of the energy thing so far I've found that your main energy enemy is simply a matter of motivation. When you're lying there unable to even peel yourself off the sofa, the idea of even going to the kitchen for some water is too much, but once you're going and force yourself to keep going you can get by without too many problems.

On saying that, you're gonna feel the waves of exhaustion like 100ft tsunami washing over you all day, but over time, these waves get smaller and you get stronger enough to withstand them.
 
Well, you're a tougher man than I am with withdrawals - I'm a big baby and can't stand feeling sick! To be fair, I also work a highly demanding job 7 days a week, and my boss is very familiar with WD symptoms - he used to be addicted to pain pills himself - so I have to have something. And the Suboxone really did take a few weeks to start working properly. I'm kind of concerned my doctor's going to start trying to get me on the Naloxone too, which would be horrible. He's also mentioned Methadone, which I absolutely don't want! So I'm hoping I can convince him I'm doing fine with what I'm already taking and start tapering off
 
I agree with you Cyan on the motivation forcing energy. Forced myself to get up yesterday. Managed to redo my child's entire play room, even carried large items up a ladder to my attic. My job is demanding, I assist with up to 25 medical procedures per day. No lunch break. Naltrexone is not for me.
 
I just read some of the materials on Neltrexone and even the manufacturer states it's of limited use for opiate dependent patients. And you have to be clean of all opiates for7 days before using. I think doctors who are pushing this are irresponsible.
 
I've heard the same. Not to mention, why would my Sub Dr want to throw me into severe withdrawal? I'm off everything and doing OK. Mental cravings are terrible along with fatigue, but I'll get through it.
 
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