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Say there are some really strong poke's, and the "normal" pokeball amounts were taken. I had 1 an 1/4 tabs for my initial dose. We felt slightly floored, cept for a girl who was basically on the couch the whole night rollin maddd face (on 3/4 of a pill). We all had a great time obviously, but we have had more energetic rolls from previous pokeballs.

I've read a bit about caffeine with mdma, and I see majority of the pokes analyzed have caffeine in them, in small amounts. I would like to try and slightly increase the amount of caffeine, in hopes that it could help boost the energetic part of rolling so were not super floored.

Is less more here? or should I add the caffeine powder?

If so, how much to add?
 
Although it's impossible to say how much caffeine is in some pokeballs, you could always get those 200mg caffeine tablets at your grocery store and cut one in half to get 100mg and work your way up from there...

I've found that adding caffeine makes my comeup a little anxious until I peak, but everyone is different. My sweet spot is around 200mg after I've peaked, it usually gets me up and dancing pretty well!
 
I don't know why but every time I roll I usually buy a few energy drinks so I'm rolling balls AND wired, hahaha.

Even better, take some speed! :D
 
I took a Red Monkey once, which has caffeine it it and I was up the whole night. There's definitely more of a "rush" when adding it. I had a pretty bad comedown from it though, so keep that in mind as well
 
It depends on how you like your rolls. I have a few friends who love speedy rolls, and they combine them with energy drinks like Red Bull the whole night if they are more "chill". I prefer MDMA to be smooth and easy so I don't take any caf. with it.
 
energy drinks

has anyone taken energy drinks (red bull, monster etc) and Mandy before? and does it increase the energy in the roll? as when i take mandy i dance for 30 mins and chill the rest of the time by melting in the seats :P but i would love to make the dancing more energetic and prolonged :)
 
Yeah. It helps a bit. Granted, for me, Red Bull and such doesn't get me too terribly perky. But, any little extra kick helps. I perfer being wired rather than mellow. =)
 
Caffiene is caffiene, so yeah, they'll work. But, be careful with caff pills. Those bastards are usually really strong, and too much caffiene isn't alot of fun. I'd take your pill, see how you feel (sometimes you wind up with speedy pills to begin with... and extra caff on top of that... urgh =s ), and if you think you need it, take about 100mg of caffiene.

That being said, Red Bull and other drinks usually have other supplements in them which act like caffiene (guarana, etc), so don't try and get 100 mg of caffiene by downing a ton of RB. =P
 
Caffeine pills are probably not the way to go. I've used them a few times to wake up in the morning, and when you over do it you feel like shit :/
But sure a red bull is tasty as hell on mandy, and will probably get you buzzing a bit more, but don't expect it to intensify the roll cause it won't.
Be safe! :D
 
caffeine pill usually - 200mg

red bull (small can) - 80mg

can of coke - 35mg.

i think the pill would be overdoing it. id take half at most, or maybe a 4th.
 
be careful, don't overdo it

The present study determined the effect of caffeine co-administration on the core body temperature response and long-term serotonin (5-HT) loss induced by methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA; "Ecstasy") and its metabolite methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA; "Love") to rats. In group-housed animals, caffeine (10mg/kg) enhanced the acute toxicity of MDMA (15mg/kg) and MDA (7.5mg/kg), resulting in an exaggerated hyperthermic response (+2 degrees C for 5h following MDMA and +1.5 degrees C for 3h following MDA) when compared to MDMA (+1 degrees C for 3h) and MDA (+1 degrees C for 1h) alone. Co-administration of caffeine with MDMA or MDA was also associated with increased lethality. To reduce the risk of lethality, doses of MDMA and MDA were reduced in further experiments and the animals were housed individually. To examine the effects of repeated administration, animals received MDMA (10mg/kg) or MDA (5mg/kg) with or without caffeine (10mg/kg) twice daily for 4 consecutive days. MDMA and MDA alone induced hypothermia (fall of 1 to 2 degrees C) over the 4 treatment days. Co-administration of caffeine with MDMA or MDA resulted in hyperthermia (increase of up to 2.5 degrees C) following acute administration compared to animals treated with caffeine or MDMA/MDA alone. This hyperthermic response to caffeine and MDMA was not observed with repeated administration, unlike caffeine + MDA, where hyperthermia was obtained over the 4day treatment period. In addition, 4weeks after the last treatment, co-administration of caffeine with MDA (but not MDMA) induced a reduction in 5-HT and 5-hydroxyindole acetic acid (5-HIAA) concentrations in frontal cortex (to 61% and 58% of control, respectively), hippocampus (48% and 60%), striatum (79% and 64%) and amygdala (63% and 37%). However, when caffeine (10mg/kg) and MDMA (2.5mg/kg) were co-administered four times daily for 2days to group-housed animals, both hyperthermia and hippocampal 5-HT loss were observed (reduced to 68% of control). Neither MDMA nor MDA alone induced a significant reduction in regional 5-HT or 5-HIAA concentrations following repeated administration. In conclusion, caffeine promotes the acute and long-term toxicity associated with MDMA and MDA. This is a serious drug interaction, which could have important acute and long-term health consequences for recreational drug users.
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http://www.mdma.net/toxicity/coffee.html
 
You would have to drink A LOT of red bull for it to do anything while your on caps. Caps are very powerful and tend to overpower "smaller" drugs such as weed, and drinking.

Think of it this way, I did blow on caps and it was pretty much a waste of money because your already so fucked it doesn't do much. (unless your going over a flap at a time). But that's blow compared to energy drinks.
 
I love having a bit of caffeine with my rolls but not much. I drink about one or two energy drinks so I get a bit wired and that's it. Stay away from the caffeine pills! :D
 
Molly

I just bought 2 caps of pure mollies. Going to be my first time since I've only done rolls. I heard its more of a mellow high than that upity, dancing feeling you get from the caffeine and amps in the pills. Now I want to know, is there anything I can drink such as:Energy drinks, coffee, etc to help me get the urge to stay on the dance floor? Caffeine pills, anything? I'm planning on taking it to a rave so I don't want to be just standing there or sitting around talking to people, barely able to walk. I want to dance too! lmfao
 
Eyes...sure. People who take pure MDMA have been known to mix a little caffeine to give them the urge to move around. Just don't overdo it. Energy drinks (1 or 2) should get you going just fine. Enjoy.

Cheers
 
If it's your first time I woudn't add any more stimulants, when you're flying on mdma taking something like that would just seem rediculous. You will be in a perfect state of mind. I would have something delicious and hydrating instead possibly with a lot of antioxidants, like apple juice maybe. You will be experiencing a whole new world for yourself, complete freedom, and personally it turns me into a wild man on the dance floor when I normally don't dance too much, or at least it's normally not my absolute favourite thing to do like it is when I'm rolling. And I pretty much only ever take molly crystal.
If you really want to though, go right ahead, I have gotten wasted on it many times and survived so I'm sure a little caffeine won't kill you. I just don't think it will be necessary.
 
nah dont drink apple juice ^ something about the sugar that brings your roll down. If you want a bit of caffiene with it then go ahead, just dont over do it or believe you must need this for a decent roll. You will roll fine off mdma, could probably dance for hours aswell. If your sat in someones front room though the sofa feels so nice. all depends on the setting i spose.
 
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