Ending the War On Drugs Would Be a Huge Mistake

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It's a bit old, so I apologize for that, but this has got to be the most ridiculous article I've read in a long, long time. If ever. Basically none of what he says makes any sense, even according to what he says! 8) This guy is nucking futs!

If anything you know this guy is full of shit because he makes the HUGE assumption that ending the War on Drugs is the same thing as Legalization - when in fact they are two very, very different thing, and one absolutely does not necessarily lead to the other (I mean, some states have legalized cannabis, yet it's still illegal and the WOD rages on...). An obvious sign this guy was either paid to write this or is nothing but a narrow minded pro-prohibition zealot. I put my money on the former. Bet he'd be great at a conservative think tank or working some place like Fox or another major news (esp cable) outlet.

4 Reasons Why Ending the War On Drugs Would Be a Huge Mistake

James Banks | 11/12/13 said:
We have heard it all before: The War on Drugs is lost and legalizing drugs would mean more government revenue. Doesn't that make it a good thing? But the legalization crowd's arguments are based largely on unsubstantiated claims and misleading statistics. Just scratching beneath the surface suggests that a world with either no restrictions or fewer restrictions on narcotics would be a long way from utopia.

1. The Government Spends as Much on Therapy for Legal Drugs as It Does On Containing Illegal Drugs

Believe it or not, the real problem in recent years has not been illegal drugs, it has been legal ones. Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron, in a pro-legalization study, suggests that we could collect as much as $32.7 billion in tax revenue from the sales of recreational drugs. Well, guess what? We spend about $72 billion every year on treating prescription painkiller addiction. Legalizing drugs has not made people use them more responsibly. In fact, since 1999, deaths from legal drugs have increased by as much as 400% among women and 265% among men.

2. Recreational Drug Use Would Mean Less Educational Attainment and Lower Productivity for Users

This should be a no-brainer, if you will. It is an idea that pervades popular culture. But it is also borne out by the evidence. A study by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) concluded that marijuana had roughly the same impact on one's educational attainment as growing up in a single parent home. While it is still an open question as to whether or not marijuana use lowers IQ, this research from the NBER indicate that it goes a long way toward creating the conditions that lead to ennui and underachievement.

This is just addressing marijuana, which is probably the most harmless illegal narcotic. It is also the narcotic for which the most research is available, but if someone wants to make the case that cocaine actually has a net positive effect or that meth is good for math, I am happy to hear that person out.

3. Drug Legalization Would Severely Restrict Workers' Rights

If drugs ever are legalized wholesale, you can expect to see much more invasive employers and many more ambulance chasing lawyers. There already are urinalysis test requirements for many jobs, such as trucking, law enforcement and heavy duty manufacturing. But if drugs ever become prolific in society, there will still be many employers who refuse to hire anyone who uses them. That will not prevent paying customers from scrutinizing every mistake employees make. Soon, we might be hearing plaintiffs shaking their fists and screaming things like, "You have a pot smoker managing my retirement fund?!" "You let a cocaine user teach our kids organic chemistry?!" "You handed our advertising campaign to a meth junkie?!" At the moment, most employers and industries are covered by the fact that it is the government's responsibility to regulate drug use. If drugs are legalized, that responsibility will fall on the industries themselves. And they and their clients will not let anything slide.

4. Legalizing Drugs Would Make Low Income Individuals More Vulnerable

People who favor legalization almost always mention how much money the government could make from a consumption tax on weed or crack. But the government making money is not a good thing if it is taken from the wrong revenue source. For instance, it is usually not a good thing when the government takes money that would otherwise be invested in the economy. That is why capital gain taxes are so low. It is also not a good thing if the government takes money from people who badly need it. Yes, drug addiction afflicts the rich as much as the poor, but these statistics are not a good indication of the future. One of the reasons why drug use has been comparatively high among the wealthy is because the ban on drugs has made them more expensive while cheaper legal forms of recreation, such as smoking, are more commonly amongst the poor. The poor also have fewer resources with which to break addictions and are also more affected by paying, say, a $20 tax on a pound of marijuana than a rich person would be by purchasing the same product for the same amount.

The legalization movement has always been more of a pet issue of the 1% than it has of other Americans. While a slight majority of Californians, regardless of race or income, opposed marijuana legalization in 2010, the uber-rich, such as this guy, this guy and this guy have always been dead set in favor of it.

Does this mean that we should keep the incarceration system that is currently in place? Not necessarily. There are other approaches to the issue that somewhere in between where we currently are and the wholesale legalization that libertarians are always pushing for. This might mean giving more autonomy to local law enforcement; legalizing marijuana for medical use; considering compelling criminal justice options like corporal punishment for minor infractions; and hunting down drug kingpins with fewer federal officers and more bounty hunters. But this does not mean giving in to the idea that all is lost as the growing legalization echo chamber keeps claiming.

Just because an idea is fashionable does not make it right.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/7...ding-the-war-on-drugs-would-be-a-huge-mistake
 
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1. Money is spent on getting them off prescription painkillers, not letting them sustain a legal habit
2. They focus almost solely on Marijuana. And yes, meth would improve schoolwork
3. (last sentence) says who?
4. It would be a lot cheaper for all. I don't see much of an argument holding up.
 
I'm not even sure what he says actually qualifies as an "argument" for a logical point of view... At first (really before I read any of this other than the title) it was like, "Interesting..." Now it's like, "What bullshit..."
 
i was about to respond to this guy's arguments but i realized it' just a waste of time.. the question that comes to my mind everytime i read something of the sort is: how can he actually believe what he wrote? it's yet another proof that people believe what they want to believe.
 
That article was so absurd I don't know what to say. The last two points where fantastically idiotic and absolutely disgusting/ironic, respectively.

I came up with a punishment for people like this a while back that I would like to share: first you burn the entire surface area of their body with cigarettes, then you fire acetaminophen tablets at them out of shot shells (they would shatter on impact, only causing superficial mutilation) then splash liquor on their wounds.
 
Quick reply to two points.

1) Most prescription drugs with recreational potential are controlled in some measure, not fully legal. The author seems to imply otherwise.

2) While not the silver bullets many people think they are, stimulants like amphetamine and methamphetamine certainly have some positive effects on cognition and alertness.

They won't turn you into Einstein, but under some circumstances (working for very long hours, for example) they can provide some advantages in productivity. There's a reason we give them to kids with ADHD.
 
What a load of corn-sprinkled caca.

I wouldn't be surprised if this guy stands to lose a substantial amount of money if the war on drugs is ended.

I can understand the prohibitionists' fears/concerns that an end to the war on drugs may result in more people than ever becoming habituated to "the hard stuff."

Do prohibitionists ever think past the tip of their noses? Has anyone of them given thought to the probability that an end to the war on drugs may also result in more people than ever "getting clean" and rejoining the workforce?

If it were up to me, the DEA, NIDA, drug czar, and any other federal or state level government-run sausage parties - which preach prohibitionist propaganda and abuse their power to enforce their views regarding recreational drug use - would not exist. Any UN Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs treaties would be torn into appropriately-sized pieces and used to wipe my ass. Any recreational drug laws would be repealed. And I would probably hand over the responsibility of telling Americans about recreational drug use to the FDA, but it wouldn't be the same shit you heard in school years ago. Rather, any information would be based on harm reduction. Just like how sex is discussed (e.g. use protection, beware of STDs), etc.)

How sad, that the reason why so many immigrants fled from their homes to North America before the US became a sovereign state was to escape oppression, persecution, and control at the hands of the Catholics in the UK and other parts of Europe.

The Evangelical Christians wanted to be free to practice their own denomination of Christianity. What a tragedy that they turned out to be just as controlling as their counterparts, if not worse.

It's bad enough that African-American minority's ancestors were seized and sold into slavery. It doesn't matter that slavery was abolished so long ago, Uncle Sam's control freaks have figured out another way to deprive an African-American of an equal chance to succeed in his/her life when compared to the average American Caucasian. And that of course would be for most of them to rot in prison.
 
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2) While not the silver bullets many people think they are, stimulants like amphetamine and methamphetamine certainly have some positive effects on cognition and alertness.

As we lurch slowly toward war in Ukraine, I'm reminded that fighter pilots are often supplied with amphetamines so that they are alert & functioning fully despite a long & boring flight, & can accurately drop fire onto people.

I've always thought it somewhat ironic that war should be legal while drugs are not! When governments use drugs they prohibit for recreation to commit acts of war entailing destruction & death, I'm almost stunned by the irony.
 
The war against drugs is simply put a civil war on its citizens.. The police will never win nor the citizens.. ALSO drug addiction is a mental health issue not a correctional issue.. This is how places such as Sweden have approached the issue and it has be proven to help the citizens waaaay more with serious drug issues.. Building up large prison systems and throwing over half the people in jail for drugs is asinine. The War on drugs has succeeded in creating a black market so large there are massive cartels in Mexico, Columbia etc. If you are truly worried about drugs effects on people focus more on things one at a time, like the needle program in Sweden which has dropped the STD rate very effectively. Focus on the issues in society that cause people to want to use, and continue to educate people about the negative sides of addiction. Throwing people in jails that are only growing in size and are now privatized which do not rehabilitate people is not the answer to the problems the war on drugs tries to address..
 
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