Emsam and Phenylethylamine Dosage

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Hi all

I'm on the 6mg Emsam patch and have been for a bout six weeks. Basically I really do need a substitute for the 25mg adderall/50mg vyvanse I was on for six months. How much PEA should I take to "mimic" this effect? 100mg? 50mg? 25mg?

Thanks

 

[Seppi]

I don't think there's a simple dose equivalence between Amph and PEA/Selegiline - mainly bc people express the non-MAO-B phenethylamine metabolizing enzymes differently.
I'd suggest you just prudently use trial and error to see what works best for you.

 

[knockout_mice]

I wouldn't want to go down the selegiline + pea route. It's highly addictive and the duration is very short.

If you really want to, start low and titrate your dose up slowly.

Also, it's not advanced topic. ;_:

 

[sekio]

add _> bdd

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

I will start with 25mg. How long does it last? More addictive than amphetamine?

Thanks

 

[Dysphoric]

I wouldn't want to go down the selegiline + pea route. It's highly addictive and the duration is very short.

I don't know. From what I know its quite the opposite. I've been under the impression that the up-regulation of endogenous synthesis of MAO-B makes it less addictive/habitual.

 

[knockout_mice]

Some anecdotal evidence:

http://www.socialanxietysupport.com...lethylamine-pea-addict-anyone-else-out-91376/

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Sounds like an addiction on par with serious stimulants. We know how bad those can be if abused. Given that there are so few of these stories out there for PEA (taking into account that this combo would be less prevalent than someone simply taking amphetamine due to lack of information flow) I still don't see it as such of a problem. After taking about 83mg I feel more focused and have this feeling in my chest which speaks of something along the lines of a post-orgasm feeling, but it's not too strong.

I'm very experienced with stimulants; I took amphetamine for six months (with just one twelve day break) and never abused it. If I can take this 1-3 times a day I should be fine. It's mostly for productivity.

I also take Invega by injection.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

So I realize this is a bad idea. You are constantly popping pills all day long; there are several reports of people whose life this combination has basically ruined; it makes you nauseous; it isn't that practical for work; and its under-researched. I did it for two days, then watching my tolerance sky-rocket and my incoming addiction to it build, gave it up and threw away the rest. Be Safe!