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Elon Musk reportedly using multiple substances, including ketamine, MDMA, and Adderall

canadianpeduser said:
I agree that MDMA if taken in the wrong place at the wrong time can be a terrible drug.
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I wouldn’t say it’s terrible. It’s one of the best damn highs there is from a raw “getting off” standpoint. Alone or not.

It’s jist has zero utility or upside besides “getting of off” and, I don’t buy the medical trials (yea of fucking course it makes you feel better about life). It’s extremely damaging to the brain if used regularly. You can’t function on it like you can with meth or amp. It’s too stoning and mind altering.
 
canadianpeduser said:
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think that ketamine therapy done professionally can have extremely good benefits. They’re already opening up shop so it’s FDA approved for psychotherapy while under the influence of moderate dose IV ketamine. Talking to a dr and a “psychotherapist” idk what type of school that takes but it’s beyond psychiatry
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typically psychiatrists are medical doctors, they go to med school and can prescribe medications and do procedures

psychologists will have PhD training and fellowship in clinical psychology. these guys are like super therapists, terminal degree and top of the therapy game but they can't prescribe medications or perform procedures due to lack of medical training

therapists, including some psychotherapists, could have anywhere from a certification to a PhD but the training isn't quite as much as the other two and of course no med management
 
All I can say is that even the highest-paid doctor and psychiatrist will recognize that if the patient fatally ODs on medications THEY prescribed, THEY are responsible.

George C. Nichopoulos
Robert Freymann
Conrad Murrey

Eventually they all ended up getting their licences revoked even when famous clients were not provably killed by an OD of medicines they prescribed.

So sooner or later someone WILL discover who Elmo's doctors are but right now you can bet whoever ARE his doctors will be weighing up if the rich people Elmo brings to their door outweighs their likely outcome of eventual loss of licence.
 
that's really the rub, they have comprehensive medical training to make those decisions, are board certified regularly, and carry malpractice insurance. the buck stops at them

maybe some doctors would be willing to sit on a pile of cash to lose their license, maybe Elon just has his DOGE henchmen order them, maybe both


I wonder if Elon is doing adderall meth presses lol
 
Doctors just fall in love with their credit cards, chequebooks, ID and so on - all those reminders of who we all are, for them being referred to as 'doctor' is a large part of their ego.

So it's not just a financial wrench. It takes away their entire self-image.

My instinct is that Elmo is using on-line consultations with clinicians who might not even live in the US. I say this because although it's rare, their are some pharmacies in the US who will fill private prescriptions issued by (some) foreign nations. So it's entirely possible that a Swiss, Australian or indeed South African clinician could write the script.

Certainly Harley Street doctors in London are amenable to witing for the money and oh boy, I mean thousands of pounds a pop. But clearly there is a market.
 
Shambles said:
I can totally see his stack. Makes sense in a kinda twisted silicone valley way… mostly microdosing for sure but apparently with enough ket to blow up his bladder

I finally feel the real feels of a billionaire ❤️

He comes across as the usual over-amped, over-inflated guy we all know… but he is a multibillionnaire. And he has immense power over all of us.

His drug use doesn’t particularly bother me… the fact that it has to happen in the shadows is the problem.

We all know how drugs cloud one’s vision - in every sense of the word. For as long as drug use has to remain in the shadows we have had coked up politicians, junky politicians, alcoholic politicians, politicians on uppers, downers and - apparently - ketamine infusions.

Shit needs to be shown the light so we can have an adult conversation about power and powerful drugs…
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Power might be one of the most powerful drugs of all.
 
Phobos said:
Power might be one of the most powerful drugs of all.
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Didn't someone note that power is addictive without being satisfying but at least is calorie-free?

Lest we forget, Harold Shipman was given bail after being charged with mass murder! Yes he was eventually struck off, but it's clear that the word 'doctor' gives powerul associations.

Elmo and Harold - I envisage a four-part comedy mini-series in which an arrogant billionaire gets as much heroin as he wants. MORE than he wants (that's the plot twist) 'with hilarious results' as every single press release would undoubtedly mention.
 
Although 3 months old, this video highlights how bad Elon Musk's behaviour and apparent mental state was 3 months ago, well before the latest installements.

Mainly focussing on him losing his popular appeal, and the way he has been running X to apparently try to prevent that from happening, or to turn it around.

By all accounts things were already pretty bad, well before all the latest things went down, or came to light.

Many youtube videos are obviously incredibly biased, but this one seems to be a fair and accurate account of some of the happenings on X.

 
What is interesting is that while no clinician will diagnose a transient mental illness without a proper one hour face-to-face diagnostic session, personality disorders are actually much more accurately diagnosed by much longer periods of observation.

I will leave it to those who are skilled in the art to say if they suspect Elmo's behaviors are a function of a personality disorder.

But I think narciccistic and psychopathic tendencies may be apparent.

Does anyone else recall that (in)famous Elmo tweet in which he proudly boasted 'never been to therapy'?

Because I suppose someone who is both narciccistic and psychopathic WOULD avoid a formal diagnosis at all costs.
 
Shambles said:
I can totally see his stack. Makes sense in a kinda twisted silicone valley way… mostly microdosing for sure but apparently with enough ket to blow up his bladder

I finally feel the real feels of a billionaire ❤️

He comes across as the usual over-amped, over-inflated guy we all know… but he is a multibillionnaire. And he has immense power over all of us.

His drug use doesn’t particularly bother me… the fact that it has to happen in the shadows is the problem.

We all know how drugs cloud one’s vision - in every sense of the word. For as long as drug use has to remain in the shadows we have had coked up politicians, junky politicians, alcoholic politicians, politicians on uppers, downers and - apparently - ketamine infusions.

Shit needs to be shown the light so we can have an adult conversation about power and powerful drugs…
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Ket and p*ssing blood. That's why it's something I would Not use often.
He needs to be more responsible with the ket, I think.
I heard of some people that abused it, and they are having to wear huggies/diapers all the time, because of the uncontrollable bladder problems. It's apparently something that can't be reversed?
 
RoundLettuce said:
Oh yeah, I forgot about Ket and p*ssing blood. That's why it's something I would Not use often.
He needs to be more responsible with the ket, I think.
I heard of some people that abused it, and they are having to wear huggies/diapers all the time, because of the uncontrollable bladder problems. It's apparently something that can't be reversed?
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I have ketamine baldder. It’s the total opposite of what you say. You can’t piss at all even if you need to. Everything in the bladder and urethral tract is chronically inflammed sometimes blocking the passage of urine out of the bladders. Also the bladder is so stiff that the detrusor muscle isn’t strong enough to compress it to make the piss come out.

So you can’t piss.

Yes it’s irreversible.

I’m probably going to kill my self due to this, been living with it for like 6 or 7 years. It’s never ending pain and ultimate hell.

I can guarantee you Elon is in hardcore opioids if he has this as the pain has been ranked as badly as cancer pain by medical experts.
 
Ketamine is such an overated drug IMO it's a nightmare even considering only what it does to the human ego without the bladder damage.
 
LucidSDreamr said:
I have ketamine baldder. It’s the total opposite of what you say. You can’t piss at all even if you need to. Everything in the bladder and urethral tract is chronically inflammed sometimes blocking the passage of urine out of the bladders. Also the bladder is so stiff that the detrusor muscle isn’t strong enough to compress it to make the piss come out.

So you can’t piss.

Yes it’s irreversible.

I’m probably going to kill my self due to this, been living with it for like 6 or 7 years. It’s never ending pain and ultimate hell.

I can guarantee you Elon is in hardcore opioids if he has this as the pain has been ranked as badly as cancer pain by medical experts.
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I know me asking you think as though you/doctors haven't already thought of everything, but would a combination of, like, a foley catheter and sme type of strong muscle relaxers not help?

Also, can this happen at any point or just with chronic use? I've been looking into ketamine/esketamine infusions (for DR depression)
 
LucidSDreamr said:
I have ketamine baldder. It’s the total opposite of what you say. You can’t piss at all even if you need to. Everything in the bladder and urethral tract is chronically inflammed sometimes blocking the passage of urine out of the bladders. Also the bladder is so stiff that the detrusor muscle isn’t strong enough to compress it to make the piss come out.

So you can’t piss.

Yes it’s irreversible.

I’m probably going to kill my self due to this, been living with it for like 6 or 7 years. It’s never ending pain and ultimate hell.

I can guarantee you Elon is in hardcore opioids if he has this as the pain has been ranked as badly as cancer pain by medical experts.
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No - frequent urination is commmonly the first sign leading eventually to incontinence. Yes, people CAN feel like they need to pee even AFTER urination, but suffereres rarely retain urine, or at least that is how I understand it.

 
LucidSDreamr said:
I have ketamine baldder. It’s the total opposite of what you say. You can’t piss at all even if you need to. Everything in the bladder and urethral tract is chronically inflammed sometimes blocking the passage of urine out of the bladders. Also the bladder is so stiff that the detrusor muscle isn’t strong enough to compress it to make the piss come out.

So you can’t piss.

Yes it’s irreversible.

I’m probably going to kill my self due to this, been living with it for like 6 or 7 years. It’s never ending pain and ultimate hell.

I can guarantee you Elon is in hardcore opioids if he has this as the pain has been ranked as badly as cancer pain by medical experts.
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How long/often were you using K for to get like that? Does the bladder gradually get more and more painful but you're so hooked on K you cant stop taking it?
 
wouldn't mind getting high on ghb with Elon, as long as I can control the doses... ("Here mate, just sign here will ya..."
LucidSDreamr said:
I have ketamine baldder. It’s the total opposite of what you say. You can’t piss at all even if you need to. Everything in the bladder and urethral tract is chronically inflammed sometimes blocking the passage of urine out of the bladders. Also the bladder is so stiff that the detrusor muscle isn’t strong enough to compress it to make the piss come out.

So you can’t piss.

Yes it’s irreversible.

I’m probably going to kill my self due to this, been living with it for like 6 or 7 years. It’s never ending pain and ultimate hell.

I can guarantee you Elon is in hardcore opioids if he has this as the pain has been ranked as badly as cancer pain by medical experts.
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shee-it, sounds fucking awful that mate, damn - have you tried everything diet-wise etc to solicit anti-inflammatory response in the body? Inflammation is at the heart of so many issues eh (mine too, different to yours though)

I know of two under-25's in my locale who are suffering badly from ket-bladder too, but not to the level you are probably - one of them since she was 18 ffs
 
Ismene2 said:
How long/often were you using K for to get like that? Does the bladder gradually get more and more painful but you're so hooked on K you cant stop taking it?
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5 years in mxe. Saybe 2 1 gram per month. 8 months out of the year. Sporadic K use.

It came in pretty fast. There were some signs when it first started that I should’ve stopped but the drug was so addicting that I would rationalize it away,;)
 
4DQSAR said:
No - frequent urination is commmonly the first sign leading eventually to incontinence. Yes, people CAN feel like they need to pee even AFTER urination, but suffereres rarely retain urine, or at least that is how I understand it.

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I know what symptoms I’ve had for 7 years and my multiple doctors one being s professor urology at a top 3 university university diagnosed me never commenter about my difficulty getting a stream going being unusual vs, peeing too easily.

In fact many of the main therapies (Botox and pelvic floor PT) are specifically for the purpose of making it easier to urinate by relaxing the muscle and bladder.

Sometimes when it’s flared up I’ll have to sit and really focus and relaxing the pelvic floor and all the muscles wjrh a very light reverse kegel to even get the stream to start.

It’s completely the opposite of being easy to piss. During some emergencies some patients even need to be csthererized so they can even urinate at all before their bladder overloads and caused. Injury from not being able to empty too high a volume.

You dug up an academic paper which we know are often highly contradictory in a certain field. I’m just telling you my 7 years of personally living this and having 3 different urologists, two of them being scientific researchers.
 
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