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Elon Musk reportedly using multiple substances, including ketamine, MDMA, and Adderall

specialrelativity said:
Is it worth cheating to become a billionaire? Probably.
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Nope. Most definitely not. Once you sell your metaphorical soul you are very unlikely to ever get it back. And that leaves a void you can never hope to fill no matter the riches.

It’s just Monopoly money after a certain point anyway. Number goes up, number goes down: still insanely rich either way. Who cares? Not even yourself at that point.
 
Shambles said:
From what I’ve seen, he specifically told close friends and aides that he felt he had bladder damage from his ketamine usage.
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Well, a 'close friend' as I understand the term wouldn't pass on anything so personal.

So do we mean close friendd OR do we mean people who claimed to be close friends (since it isn't a legally protected term) and in fact we mean 'everyone in the room at the time' who would like to think of themselves as a close friend when it was of benefit to them, but didn't feel all that close when it came to getting paid for inside information?

I'm not defending Elmo, I just come from a family of kournalists so believe me, lies are quite usual in this sphere.

At least Will Self had the guts to write an article about smoking H on a prime ministers aircraft as they were off on a junket. It got him fired in the morning and rehired by noon. So did he actually do it? Who knows? He won't say.
 
specialrelativity said:
Is it worth cheating to become a billionaire? Probably.
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worth it to who? society? definitely not, the exploitation done by billionaires causes so many issues and damages humanity at large. greed is not a virtue

for the individual? not unless you lack empathy, the cost to interpersonal relationships is destructive. surrounded by sharks who are only after money who lie to your face
 
4DQSAR said:
Well, a 'close friend' as I understand the term wouldn't pass on anything so personal.
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You’d be surprised. My mom that has moved heaven and earth to try and help me in any material way her whole life (which was her stunted way of trying to offer love and support)….as gossiped to all sorts of people in my family and close friend groups about my ketamine bladder damage, overdoses and heroin addiction. She’s a very emotionally stunted and immature addict herself in denial for 40+ years even though she would die of a benzo alcohol withdrawal within a week cold turkey. She’s super Christian and these are legal drugs so she’s “different”

But I have best friends, solid, intelligent people that I still consider my best friends - that have also talked behind my back with eachother about all my problems as I am the most complicated/difficult member of the friend group.

This is just the way most ppl are. Very few people keep things close.

I’ve had best friends in NA talk about relapses and cheating with me that I was shocked they would be telling me about someone else. Most ppl can’t hold these secrets.

My wife guards my secrets with her life but I think it’s more out of shame. Because shell for example tell me the most personal shit about my brother and laws sex life and relationship.

Ppl just love to talk shit even if it’s on their friends.

Also Elon has no genuine friends. 1) he has no empathy or character or love and therefore would never receive those things back from ppl; When you’re that rich everyone around you is using you for thier money. Famous ppl like that have often expressed such isolation and lack of real connections because no connection is genuine and instead transactional
 
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someguyontheinternet said:
for the individual? not unless you lack empathy
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you’d be surprised at how even a decent empathic person can rationalize unethical shit when billions fall into their lap.

I consider myself to be empathic to a self destructive fault but I can’t say I wouldn’t rationalize it by saying “I would use the money to help humanity” Ala bill gates. Although my means of “helping” would be very different and probably seen as sociopathic by most people ….but it’s so far down the rabbit hole of empathy it doesn’t make sense to ppl that are regularly empathic. It’s wrapped up in efilist/antinatalist ideology but that’s a whole other conversation.

So it’s hard to judge because ppl have their different versions of expressing empathy. Elon has explicitly stated empathy is wrong though so he’s clearly a piece of shit any way you slice it
 
That can be the case. Growing up my family knew another family due to our shared love of horses. This family did it on a large scale but in all other things, had no luxury of any kind I can recall.

Aged about 20 I asked my dad if there was enough money in horse trading to support even the modest lifestyle of those people. His anwser was simple. He said 'You do know that X owns one eigth of Nestlé, right?' so I looked in a newspaper and realized the slightly batty but lovely person was if not a billionaire, not far short of it. If they still hold those shares - they ARE billionaires.

But talk about scruffy. WE looked affluenct compated to them! US!

I suppose X thinks of money in a different way to most people. They do understand budgetting and indeed shop at Aldi for food and second-hand shops for clothing. I THINK the logic is that 'it's not mine, it belongs to my offspring and the offspring of my offspring and so on'. X had two kids. The clever one became a vet (no surprse there) and the one who was considered 'dim' became a doctor. So they appeared to be quite intelligent as well. Just able to dissociate from where the money came from.
 
4DQSAR said:
The clever one became a vet (no surprse there) and the one who was considered 'dim' became a doctor.
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That makes perfect sense to me because humans are awful to work with but animals are cute. Smart one went for the more fufilling career because money obviously isn’t an issue.

I guess some ppl like people though so I’m just seeing it through my own lens.

Btw isn’t the nestle corporation the one that said water shouldn’t be a human right or free and is trying to buy up all the water on earth?
 
LucidSDreamr said:
Btw isn’t the nestle corporation the one that said water shouldn’t be a human right or free and is trying to buy up all the water on earth?
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Yep.

In their defence, 40+ years ago, Nestlé wasn't noted for beind especially 'evil'.

I WOULD like to catch up with X because they did have a strong sense of right and wrong. But posh, my god, they made the Queen sound common. But not snobs. We were absolutely treated as equals - that's why as a kid, I could not quite work that family out. They would shoot rabbits on their land but ATE the rabbits. I think they might have had a couple of cows. They certainly had goats as they would always ask what we thought of their cheeses and their milks. Again, as a kid I thought this all very odd. I didn't understand what they meant by 'our'.

But I suspect that is HOW the family got so rich. They simply worked out the cheapest way to live. BUT key was the fact that they could affort to get the animals and were prepared to milk them and make the cheeses.
 
canadianpeduser said:
If i was Elon, I’d be on at LEAST that.
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Ketamine and mdma are pretty stupid drugs to be abusing imo. Empty, hedonistic, and serve no utility. Ketamine is also highly addictive and toxic. MDMA will also fry your brain with prolonged use

The mushroom and adderall use makes sense though and is somewhat sustainable.
 
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LucidSDreamr said:
Ketamine and mdma are pretty stupid drugs to be abusing imo. Empty, hedonistic, and serve no utility. Ketamine is also highly addictive and toxic. MDMA will also fry your brain with prolonged use

The mushroom and adderall use makes sense though and is somewhat sustainable.
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think that ketamine therapy done professionally can have extremely good benefits. They’re already opening up shop so it’s FDA approved for psychotherapy while under the influence of moderate dose IV ketamine. Talking to a dr and a “psychotherapist” idk what type of school that takes but it’s beyond psychiatry
 
canadianpeduser said:
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think that ketamine therapy done professionally can have extremely good benefits. They’re already opening up shop so it’s FDA approvedi for psychotherapy while under the influence of moderate dose IV ketamine. Talking to a dr and a “psychotherapist” idk what type of service does that but the one in my area. Not cheap either but legal if your dr signs off that it could help you
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LucidSDreamr said:
Ketamine and mdma are pretty stupid drugs to be abusing imo. Empty, hedonistic, and serve no utility. Ketamine is also highly addictive and toxic. MDMA will also fry your brain with prolonged use

The mushroom and adderall use makes sense though and is somewhat sustainable.
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Well is there proof that he’s taking all of those things? Like legit receipts for it? Cause I know he uses some natural stuff on a therapeutical level that helps anybody so obv he has access to the best care . They know what they’re doing I think
 
canadianpeduser said:
Well is there proof that he’s taking all of those things? Like legit receipts for it? Cause I know he uses some natural stuff on a therapeutical level that helps anybody so obv he has access to the best care . They know what they’re doing I think
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I agree that MDMA if taken in the wrong place at the wrong time can be a terrible drug.
 
canadianpeduser said:
Well is there proof that he’s taking all of those things? Like legit receipts for it? Cause I know he uses some natural stuff on a therapeutical level that helps anybody so obv he has access to the best care . They know what they’re doing I think
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He’s admitted to using both ketamine and adderall himself. In fucking tweets even.

Is that enough proof?

Mushrooms and mdma no proof. He did date amber heard that had a big mdma problem so there’s that.
 
canadianpeduser said:
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think that ketamine therapy done professionally can have extremely good benefits.
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Yea ketamine administered in a clinic where they give you a small threshold dose less likely to spark addiction and you don’t get to take a script home and they assess you for addiction.

Rich ppl like Elon and Matthew Perry get these private concierge doctors that give them monster scripts or just have nursed administer them whatever dose they want daily, combined with synergistic euphoric drugs like mdma and amphetamine. It’s very different.

Look what happened to Micheal Jackson. These ultra rich don’t get the same “medical treatment” everyone else does with safe guards

They get whatever they want addict or not because they say they want it and their private doctor is making a fortune off them
 
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