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Eggs and Cholesterol

SL - The fact that a vegan diet contains no cholesterol should tell you that vegans obviously have (on average) lower cholesterol than meat or dairy eaters. While I don't have the study in front of me, I have read this and I'll eat my lap top if it isn't true.

Also, the 30% reduced risk of stroke and 24% reduced risk of heart disease doesn't lend much to your "unsubstantiated scare tactic" theory. Stagnant Reaction's post was very informed. If I'm wrong, please show me some studdies or something.

sorry, i'm not trying to be a jerk. just saying what i believe :)
 
Jimmy the Gun said:
SL - The fact that a vegan diet contains no cholesterol should tell you that vegans obviously have (on average) lower cholesterol than meat or dairy eaters. While I don't have the study in front of me, I have read this and I'll eat my lap top if it isn't true.
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I don't think youre a jerk! siily ;) I respect others' points of view. But I would be interested to read the evidence which firmly links dietary cholesterol with high cholesterol levels. I personally don't believe the link has been established; and if there were a dietary culprit saturated fat would probably be the worst offender. Although it is obviosly foolhardy to test it by consuming huge amounts of cholesterol-containing foods, neither do I think being a vegan is the answer.

I guess Stagnant's slipup about eggs and saturated fat put me on the wrong foot, as has his constant one-sided preaching about the evils of meat. Fine if you are doing it for moral reasons but I really don't believe all the hype about the health benefits. I've never been sicker than when I ws vegetarian (7 years) and I followed the priniples to the letter. I don't think that lean meat, low-fat dairy and eggs in *moderation* are harmful for the average, healthy person.

If you want to lynch something, try hydrogenised fats and processed foods.

This is probably fodder for another thread!
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Beatifully put Strawberry. Althought I do not necessarily feel saturated fats are the problem either.

Alot of interesting research going around these days about the hunter gatherer diet and weather it's healthy or not.

I worry most about trans fats, and overuse of certain vegatable oils. On the other hand the saturated fat from coconuts seems to have some amazing benifits. Helps Tyroid function, high levels of caprilic acid ( helps kill candida). Very stable so not much worry about rancididy.

I remember a study along time ago. They used to put BHT in snak foods as a preservative. A flawed study deemed it carcinoginic. A number of years later stomach cancers rose sharply in the american public. I'm not avocating the use of BHT here, but pointing out the possible dangers of rancid polyunsaturates from vegatable oils used in snak foods ect.
 
>>SL - The fact that a vegan diet contains no cholesterol should tell you that vegans obviously have (on average) lower cholesterol than meat or dairy eaters. While I don't have the study in front of me, I have read this and I'll eat my lap top if it isn't true.>>

Well, a vegan diet is also going to be very low in saturated fats (unless your diet is based in french fries and other such junk), so I think that is the main factor at play.

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Sucrose and trans fats are the devil. After Cuba killed the sugar import to the US, corn syrup was the answer. I'm really loving the black-and-white answer the cola corporations give: aspertame cancer or sucrose addiction.

But to be purely honest, I really do think there are no benefits in dead animals (especially when compared to plants) and their equally disgusting excretions besides the protein. Plants contain no dietary cholesterol, and compared to animal products, are significantly benign.

The results of two, fat-modified diets, a lactoovovegetarian one rich in plant-based foods, and another in which 60% of the plant protein was replaced with protein from lean meat, were compared. While both diets lowered cholesterol and blood pressure relative to a high-fat diet, the vegetarian diet had a significantly greater cholesterol-lowering effect than the prudent non-vegetarian diet.
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/50/2/280

I really think everyone would be better off without them, but only if they know how to replace what their body has been used to burning energy on for so long.
 
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Recommend this for egg replacement:

Ener-G Egg Replacer
Ingredients: Potato Starch, tapioca starch flour, leavening (calcium lactate [not derived from dairy], calcium carbonate, citric acid [corn derived]), cellulose gum, carbohydrate gum
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Nutrition info


Mimics what eggs do in recipes, Greatly simplifies baking for people who cannot use eggs. It replaces egg whites as well as egg yolks in baking. Pack equal to approximately 100 eggs. Recipes provided on pack.
 
I'm curious about something:

Assuming eating multiple eggs a day is bad for you (high cholesterol), what happens if you work out a lot? Will the triglycerides just be used for energy production, so that the serum cholestrol is lower than in people who don't work out?
 
Here is a great link about eggs:
http://www.lammd.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/2003-No3-Eggs.cfm

I've found many other sites confirming what's said on these (and of course some that do not confirm to that).

Basicaly it says that 2 raw eggs a day shouldn't increase you blood cholesterol level if you're healthy. Your body makes cholesterol anyway and adding some extra will simply lower your own production. But there are some people who are sensitive to dietary cholesterol and their blood levels could elevate, so I guess everyone should do blood check every once in a while.

And why raw eggs? Heat "destroys" protein in eggs, not completly but makes it less useable to our body. It also modifies cholesterol so it becomes bad cholesterol. Anyway I know I can eat 5 (maybe more) raw eggs at once, but not more than 2 cooked eggs, or my stomach would hurt really bad.

I've also started eating 2-3 raw eggs a day about month ago. It's a great way to add protein (egg protein is best natural food protein), fats, vitamins, minerals to diet. And also hormones are made of cholesterol, and I've read somewhere that porno actors eat tons of eggs before filming so they can cum a lot. Could be a hoax, but my girlfriends now has real problems swallowing ;)
 
[nl]mdma as a kid I used to eat raw eggs sometimes, it was fun for me. But later I heard about salmonella and decided to cook my eggs. I've been eating cooked eggs for last few months. But about month ago I found some articles saying that salmonella is so rare you have a better change getting it somewhere else then from raw eggs. I researched more and found many claims like that. So I eat raw eggs again, so far no problem. I'm eating both store bought and directly from farmer eggs. You should just make sure they are very fresh. Visit the link above to find more about salmonella in eggs.
 
^^ How do you make sure they are fresh?? Organic, hormone-less, free range "vegetarian" eggs assure that the chicken is healthiest. I recommend those.
 
Check this link for info on egg freshness:
http://www.mercola.com/2002/nov/13/eggs.htm

Generally when you buy eggs in shop, look for most recent prod. date, also some shops refrigirate them some don't, so I believe it's better to take refrigirated ones, and keep them in fridge at home.
I usually buy once a week from a farm, and they are much bigger than those i can find in shops, and sometimes even have two yolks.
 
^^^ I don't like to take the word of someone who's pushing a program or book..

Shit his "program" costs $70 a bottle 8o
 
[nl]mdma no nuclear plant here, just a military building with biohazard sign on it near farm, but i think it's safe ;)

StagnantReaction
it's just a page with good info on how to eat raw eggs
 
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