Fermented Milk Products and Eggnog For Methylphenidate Comedowns
Hi there,
I think IV ritalin is very good, yes you dont have instant rush but after it acts like very very good coke after 3 minutes (clear mind and focused, not like mdma more like methamphetamine. Totally reverse to pethidine (meperiden) very good rush but very bad trip afterwards, i tried to combine them not good, meperidine ruins your stimulant trip). Even some Medical Doctors i known are abusing it with IV administration. (Not for they can't afford cocaine, but it is actually more purer for IV ing and also long lasting if you follow the basic steps and have a chemistry background). If you do metylphenidate iv i recommend using an insert an iv line and filter the product. IV line is important as you will want to repeat it in 2 hours, dont mess all your veins, Just one. And after you do it, clear your vein with sterile %9 NaCL (isotonic solution). And as you sleep throw your iv line altough it works, and if necessary make another afterday. Also before you throw it away inject some paracetomol (iv form) that is an NSAID that helps irritation that you create in your lovely vein and your body also maybe a little 5 mg prednol also helps for inlamation, both can be found pharmacy in the country that i am living (not my country, as i can't say). BE AWARE The prolonged use of IV line can make sepsis (bacterial growth in you blood and your heart valves, also bad you can have a stroke,as some of my firend got he cannot talk and walk for it, if you had them on your heart valve), don't danger your life for little time of joy. YOU WILL BE SAFE IF YOU REMOVE THEM AFTER 12 HOURS OF USAGE.
Internet is full of bad quality information, as I learned alot from this forum site as harm reduction (filtering megathread and varius thanks to Captain.Heroin) i want to contribute something also. For metylphenidate iv or rectal users, comedown can be really bad (worse than mdma, mda, methamphetamine and cocaine, as these are stimulants that i have tried). As its first metabolite is inactive you drop very very quickly, you smash literally, unless you repeat the dosage in 2 hours (at least half of it). I think its a great factor for substance repating behaviour, and being addicted (its a kind of losing control i think, and if it is not from drugs it can also be happened from events, people or hardness of life, as i see alot of addicts around who are abusing no drugs but theirselves...).
However, This method i tried is helped me alot. As you feel you are coming down, and the drug is almost finished. Mix Egg (complete), unedited milk and honey, and drink it as fast as you can tolerate. It is very tasty indeed and high content of Tryphtophan and Phenylalanine. The theory behind this is these foods have lots of Tryphtophan and phenylalanine. As tryphtophan being a essential aminoacid and precursor to great neurotransmitter Serotonin that slow downs the synapses of neurons. And phenylalanine as being great neurotransmitter Dopamin that you already finished with your dopamin relasing agent and metabolized with MAO to superoxides that have some sort of neurotoxicity. As this mixture milk have great calcium content and also honey has sugar, make these aminoacids to absorb better to your system.
I always thought the comedowns from stimulants is being experienced because you finished your Dopamine and Serotonin. As you do this egg milk and honey, you force your brain to produce more dopamine and serotonin. This i thought brings you more physiological level. But be aware that this can also may cause more neurotoxicity that is caused from dopamin release if you continue to taking the drug to your system. That will cause more neurotransmitter release.
I generally repeat the half of the dosage at more intervals like 3 or 4 hours if you can tolerate. I wrote these lines as i comedown from 30 mg (extracted as i calculate) x5 or 6= 150 or 180 mg (not at once 2 hours seperately, i started at 16:00 and now the hour is 03:00) iv and i fell no horror or nothing, not like my before this 2 experiences. I had to use benzodiazepines (midozolam and diazepam all iv) and also first generation antihistaminic that is been famous for anxiolytic properties (hydrizine) (not iv of course) to slow down the falling. As i have no tolerance at all to benzodiazepines and alcohol as i seldomy use them, they worked for me. But this egg+milk+honey combo is also good if you not had to sleep in a very short time.
You can use also fermented products of milk as cheese and yoghurt also have some sedative properties also. Please not underestimate them as you think like you are sober, your brain chemistry is very changed and at this conditon you are very open to GABA activity. Your brains begs for it actually.
As for making it suitable for IV product first crush your pills of your dosage (do not do over x3 to your usual daily life adhd dosage). As first time users like me, i recommend starting 30 mg. I used Concerta 54 mg for extraction that is more available to me. In the country that i living metylphenidate is controlled and you can take one ritalin 10 mg package for a month. So it will make 300 mg of total dosage, that is not suitable for my purposes. Altough extraction of ritalin is more easy i would prefer for the Concerta 54 mg as you can easly extract nearly 900 mg of metylphenidate for IV quality and the rest (720 mg) as snorting or rectal quality. I am generally use them once in the weekend day Friday or Saturday, as a chain and for one weekend extracting 5-7 pills of Concerta 54 mg--> metylphenidate of 150-210 mg is almost enough for whole weekend. Dont use them as a chain for more than 2 days it will make a psychiatric disorder known as amphetamine pyschosis. I feel it can easly be turned to chain if you have not good ability to control you. BE CARE OF YOURSELF DO NOT USE THEM AS CHAIN.
For users of Ritalin, i recommend first crush the pills in the predecontaminated glassware (you can use ethanol %70 for decontamination). After all the you waited for all ethanol evoporated, you begin to crush them 3 of the is enough for first dosage. First make them acetone wash (cover the pills with acetone and wait for 10 minutes), as metylphenidate luckly very very little dissolves in acetone you have discard the acetone. You can see as metyhlphenidate crystals begin to form. And then you can use ethanol %95 to dissolve the metylphenidate (or you can use IPA but i recommend for ethanol is more physiologic than IPA, as the remnants can be also there!!!). Filter them with filter paper and the liquid that contains ethanol and metylphenidate. For evaporating use big surface dish and bottom you will put hot water to make evaporation faster.
After you wait for 20 minutes you have almost pure metylphenidate (i will use MP after). Use sterile %9 NaCL an 0,22 M PVDF sterile filter before injecting (this step is alot important if you use filter you see some of the remnants of the fillers is out there floating).
For users of Concerta 54 mg, first dissolve in the water the red coating (that is said to be contain %20 metylphenidate as it must be around 10 mg MP). After 2-3 minutes it will dissolve very good. Do not IV this solution but save them for Rectal or snorting usage. You had now 3 piece thing, green one is bad, cut it carefully with it and throw it away. Whiteone and orange one has MP and fillers. Also I try to peal the plastic like coating, sometime to hard to peal that contain i think metylcelluso thing. And treat them like Ritalin 30 mg. Crush the stuff. As i calculate the rest 44 mg was maybe %80 efficent extracting as it is like 32-35 mg. I say them as 30 mg of MP.
I RECOMMEND ACETONE AND ETHANOL AS SOLVENT AND ITS REMNANTS CAN BE IN THE SOLUTION THAT YOU ARE IVING AS THEY ARE NOT CARCINOGENIC AND ALSO OUR BODY PRODUCES BOTH OF THEM, MINIMAL QUANTITY BUT THEY ARE PSYOLOGIC.
I WROTE THOSE FOR USERS BEING SAFE SIDE. NOT FOR ENCOURAGING THEM USING. ANY KIND OF STIMULANT TO IV OR SNORTING OR RECTAL ADMINISTRATION IS VERY VERY DANGEROUS, AND ALSO VERY ADDICTIVE NATURE. PLEASE DON'T TRY THESE IV IF YOU CAN'T HAVE SOME PARTS OF IT (FOR EXAMPLE FILTER, ACETONE, ETHANOL %95). USING INTRARECTAL SYRINGE WİTH MP ALSO LIKE IV (%80 BIOAVALIBITY). BEST SECOND WAY TO USE THEM. SO USE IT THIS WAY IF YOU HAD TO.
ALSO DO NOT USE ANY KIND OF STIMULANT IF YOU HAVE KNOWN HEART VALVE PROBLEMS, ARYTHMIAS OR OTHER PROBLEMS. YOU ARE NOT THE LUCK SIDE, USE PSYCHODELICS THAT NOT BELONG PHENYLETYLAMINE FAMILY.
IT IS ALSO TRUE FOR OPOID USERS. I HAVE SEEN FENTANYL ARITMIAS EVEN NORMAL DOSAGE. IF YOU BELONG THIS GROUP DON'T DO ANY THING IV.
BE IN THE SAFE SIDE (BE LIVING, DEATH FROM OVERDOSE IS NOT FUN ). YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT HERE, WE ALL WILL GO THERE WHEN OUR TIME COMES.
please write if you do it and how your body reacts it...
Hi there,
I think IV ritalin is very good, yes you dont have instant rush but after it acts like very very good coke after 3 minutes (clear mind and focused, not like mdma more like methamphetamine. Totally reverse to pethidine (meperiden) very good rush but very bad trip afterwards, i tried to combine them not good, meperidine ruins your stimulant trip). Even some Medical Doctors i known are abusing it with IV administration. (Not for they can't afford cocaine, but it is actually more purer for IV ing and also long lasting if you follow the basic steps and have a chemistry background). If you do metylphenidate iv i recommend using an insert an iv line and filter the product. IV line is important as you will want to repeat it in 2 hours, dont mess all your veins, Just one. And after you do it, clear your vein with sterile %9 NaCL (isotonic solution). And as you sleep throw your iv line altough it works, and if necessary make another afterday. Also before you throw it away inject some paracetomol (iv form) that is an NSAID that helps irritation that you create in your lovely vein and your body also maybe a little 5 mg prednol also helps for inlamation, both can be found pharmacy in the country that i am living (not my country, as i can't say). BE AWARE The prolonged use of IV line can make sepsis (bacterial growth in you blood and your heart valves, also bad you can have a stroke,as some of my firend got he cannot talk and walk for it, if you had them on your heart valve), don't danger your life for little time of joy. YOU WILL BE SAFE IF YOU REMOVE THEM AFTER 12 HOURS OF USAGE.
Internet is full of bad quality information, as I learned alot from this forum site as harm reduction (filtering megathread and varius thanks to Captain.Heroin) i want to contribute something also. For metylphenidate iv or rectal users, comedown can be really bad (worse than mdma, mda, methamphetamine and cocaine, as these are stimulants that i have tried). As its first metabolite is inactive you drop very very quickly, you smash literally, unless you repeat the dosage in 2 hours (at least half of it). I think its a great factor for substance repating behaviour, and being addicted (its a kind of losing control i think, and if it is not from drugs it can also be happened from events, people or hardness of life, as i see alot of addicts around who are abusing no drugs but theirselves...).
However, This method i tried is helped me alot. As you feel you are coming down, and the drug is almost finished. Mix Egg (complete), unedited milk and honey, and drink it as fast as you can tolerate. It is very tasty indeed and high content of Tryphtophan and Phenylalanine. The theory behind this is these foods have lots of Tryphtophan and phenylalanine. As tryphtophan being a essential aminoacid and precursor to great neurotransmitter Serotonin that slow downs the synapses of neurons. And phenylalanine as being great neurotransmitter Dopamin that you already finished with your dopamin relasing agent and metabolized with MAO to superoxides that have some sort of neurotoxicity. As this mixture milk have great calcium content and also honey has sugar, make these aminoacids to absorb better to your system.
I always thought the comedowns from stimulants is being experienced because you finished your Dopamine and Serotonin. As you do this egg milk and honey, you force your brain to produce more dopamine and serotonin. This i thought brings you more physiological level. But be aware that this can also may cause more neurotoxicity that is caused from dopamin release if you continue to taking the drug to your system. That will cause more neurotransmitter release.
I generally repeat the half of the dosage at more intervals like 3 or 4 hours if you can tolerate. I wrote these lines as i comedown from 30 mg (extracted as i calculate) x5 or 6= 150 or 180 mg (not at once 2 hours seperately, i started at 16:00 and now the hour is 03:00) iv and i fell no horror or nothing, not like my before this 2 experiences. I had to use benzodiazepines (midozolam and diazepam all iv) and also first generation antihistaminic that is been famous for anxiolytic properties (hydrizine) (not iv of course) to slow down the falling. As i have no tolerance at all to benzodiazepines and alcohol as i seldomy use them, they worked for me. But this egg+milk+honey combo is also good if you not had to sleep in a very short time.
You can use also fermented products of milk as cheese and yoghurt also have some sedative properties also. Please not underestimate them as you think like you are sober, your brain chemistry is very changed and at this conditon you are very open to GABA activity. Your brains begs for it actually.
As for making it suitable for IV product first crush your pills of your dosage (do not do over x3 to your usual daily life adhd dosage). As first time users like me, i recommend starting 30 mg. I used Concerta 54 mg for extraction that is more available to me. In the country that i living metylphenidate is controlled and you can take one ritalin 10 mg package for a month. So it will make 300 mg of total dosage, that is not suitable for my purposes. Altough extraction of ritalin is more easy i would prefer for the Concerta 54 mg as you can easly extract nearly 900 mg of metylphenidate for IV quality and the rest (720 mg) as snorting or rectal quality. I am generally use them once in the weekend day Friday or Saturday, as a chain and for one weekend extracting 5-7 pills of Concerta 54 mg--> metylphenidate of 150-210 mg is almost enough for whole weekend. Dont use them as a chain for more than 2 days it will make a psychiatric disorder known as amphetamine pyschosis. I feel it can easly be turned to chain if you have not good ability to control you. BE CARE OF YOURSELF DO NOT USE THEM AS CHAIN.
For users of Ritalin, i recommend first crush the pills in the predecontaminated glassware (you can use ethanol %70 for decontamination). After all the you waited for all ethanol evoporated, you begin to crush them 3 of the is enough for first dosage. First make them acetone wash (cover the pills with acetone and wait for 10 minutes), as metylphenidate luckly very very little dissolves in acetone you have discard the acetone. You can see as metyhlphenidate crystals begin to form. And then you can use ethanol %95 to dissolve the metylphenidate (or you can use IPA but i recommend for ethanol is more physiologic than IPA, as the remnants can be also there!!!). Filter them with filter paper and the liquid that contains ethanol and metylphenidate. For evaporating use big surface dish and bottom you will put hot water to make evaporation faster.
After you wait for 20 minutes you have almost pure metylphenidate (i will use MP after). Use sterile %9 NaCL an 0,22 M PVDF sterile filter before injecting (this step is alot important if you use filter you see some of the remnants of the fillers is out there floating).
For users of Concerta 54 mg, first dissolve in the water the red coating (that is said to be contain %20 metylphenidate as it must be around 10 mg MP). After 2-3 minutes it will dissolve very good. Do not IV this solution but save them for Rectal or snorting usage. You had now 3 piece thing, green one is bad, cut it carefully with it and throw it away. Whiteone and orange one has MP and fillers. Also I try to peal the plastic like coating, sometime to hard to peal that contain i think metylcelluso thing. And treat them like Ritalin 30 mg. Crush the stuff. As i calculate the rest 44 mg was maybe %80 efficent extracting as it is like 32-35 mg. I say them as 30 mg of MP.
I RECOMMEND ACETONE AND ETHANOL AS SOLVENT AND ITS REMNANTS CAN BE IN THE SOLUTION THAT YOU ARE IVING AS THEY ARE NOT CARCINOGENIC AND ALSO OUR BODY PRODUCES BOTH OF THEM, MINIMAL QUANTITY BUT THEY ARE PSYOLOGIC.
I WROTE THOSE FOR USERS BEING SAFE SIDE. NOT FOR ENCOURAGING THEM USING. ANY KIND OF STIMULANT TO IV OR SNORTING OR RECTAL ADMINISTRATION IS VERY VERY DANGEROUS, AND ALSO VERY ADDICTIVE NATURE. PLEASE DON'T TRY THESE IV IF YOU CAN'T HAVE SOME PARTS OF IT (FOR EXAMPLE FILTER, ACETONE, ETHANOL %95). USING INTRARECTAL SYRINGE WİTH MP ALSO LIKE IV (%80 BIOAVALIBITY). BEST SECOND WAY TO USE THEM. SO USE IT THIS WAY IF YOU HAD TO.
ALSO DO NOT USE ANY KIND OF STIMULANT IF YOU HAVE KNOWN HEART VALVE PROBLEMS, ARYTHMIAS OR OTHER PROBLEMS. YOU ARE NOT THE LUCK SIDE, USE PSYCHODELICS THAT NOT BELONG PHENYLETYLAMINE FAMILY.
IT IS ALSO TRUE FOR OPOID USERS. I HAVE SEEN FENTANYL ARITMIAS EVEN NORMAL DOSAGE. IF YOU BELONG THIS GROUP DON'T DO ANY THING IV.
BE IN THE SAFE SIDE (BE LIVING, DEATH FROM OVERDOSE IS NOT FUN ). YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT HERE, WE ALL WILL GO THERE WHEN OUR TIME COMES.
please write if you do it and how your body reacts it...
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