Effects of smoking small amounts of Salvia?

[Inkst]

I am well aware that salvia is a powerful psychedelic substance, but in an experience ~A year ago, It felt more like a relaxant due to my small dose.

The first time I had done salvia I didn't really feel anything, probably because i was doing it wrong in one way or another. Inside, check. Water bong, check. Lighter that didn't cost me .99c????.. Damnit.

Although the second time went even worse, as follows:

- It was outside, in light rain.
- It was a little chilly outside.
- It was burned in a pipe instead of a water bong.
- I didn't know that salvia requires much more heat than weed to have strong effects.

(Had just started smoking weed 3 or so months before this and never researched anything. Total newbie.)

Although all these factors were against me, I actually felt some effects.

It felt like a 200mg dose of DXM, (in my own experience) mixed with a 50mg dose of MDMA crystals, (again, in my own experience). But as if MDMA had no euphoria, and as if DXM had no 'intoxicating' or motor skill impairing affects or and dissociative quality, just total relaxtion, condensed into ~6 minutes. If that makes any sense.

I don't know how else to explain it. :[

My body felt totally relaxed and I ended up not being able to stand, my muscles just felt like they just gave out on me, but in a good way. It was like they were finally taking a break from me constantly dragging them around all day, and were taking me along with their break. My friend had to catch me because I almost fell over, and had to lie down for about 5 minutes on the wet grass until the feeling left me. Normally I would care about lying down in wet grass and dirt, but I couldn't care less at the time, I felt pretty damn good. There were absolutely no bothersome feelings whatsoever and I'm pretty glad I had that experience.

I know people usually just rip through hits of salvia to blast off, and I'm pretty jealous that I haven't 'blasted' off yet, that experience was the last of the 20x I had and the headshop stopped selling it because of ID issues. I am planning to get some 40x or 60x and do it properly, I know it would be intense but that's how I want a salvia experience to be next time I take it, not just torching it to get high, I will be doing it for the experience!

But this all being said, have any BLers taken in small amounts of salvia smoke and felt anything worth mentioning? Or was it just a big waste?

Now that I've had other substances it doesn't really compare too muchbut it felt amazing for what I had little I had experienced at the time. It would still be more than worthwhile if I were to try to do it again today.

I am also sure that what I was doing WAS 20x salvia.


Lasty, I am NOT saying mix MDMA and DXM so you can feel what this crazy Inkst guy on bluelight felt from hitting only a bit of salvia. The only thing you will be feeling is possibly how the interior of a casket feels. Don't do it.

 

[omicamushroom]

This little mushroom experimented with Lady Salvia way too many times in way too short a period of time. This little mushroom began experimentation early in his 16th year and was pretty much done by his 17th year. His first experiment was nearly a breakthrough. very confusing as this little mushroom only began experimenting with psychoactive materials a few months prior when he was still 15. The next few times he smoked salvia though, the experiences were not as intense.

Throughout this little mushroom's experiences he learnt a great deal about salvia. check out the salvia faq on erowid. It gives this little map of experiences, where the effects are broken up into levels. These levels reflect my experiences. the first three levels are light effects, and the last three levels are strong effects. This little mushroom breaks it down into 3 though. Pairing them up as they gain strength.

The light effect to this little mushrooms notice are mostly unpleasant. There was a couple times where he felt this graceful presence over him... but even then it was sorta awkward. This little mushroom felt a spirit touch him on the shoulders... hold his shoulders and guide him. It was very comforting.... most of the time, however, salvia experiences at this weak side of the spectrum can be very confusing... and often this little mushroom is flushed with anger. This little mushroom is angry at the confusion, whereas with dmt he is euphoric and is able to laugh at the absurdities.

The next level is where things get even more confusing... physical objects in your world may morph, and you lose the ability to communicate with others in a normal fashion. You feel like you are getting caught up in something... and not quite sure what it is.

Then there is the break through experience... which is still very confusing for this little mushroom. He usually gets caught up in letters that are trying to spell something. meanwhile, you are caught up in playing games that salvia spirits thrust you into. Everytime you complete a task you are given a letter, but you never really get to the end, before you need to start again... This is one example of highdose experiments. The other type is being sucked into an out of body experience in which you confront yourself. In this little mushrooms first experience... he felt the energy of a hand figure trying to pull him through a television screen. After seriously breaking through... he realizes that that hand wanted to pick him up and bring him in. Instead he fought the hand off. One day when taking a very strong dose though he was catapulted. After getting into a memory loop everything swirled together and then he was blasted... there was nothing... then there was a window... then there was his head being pulled through slowly until his feet eventually pulled through.... and then he fell.... and fell..... until he hit the ground.... and there he was seeing himself laying out in a field... his eyes seeing himself from up above in the sky.... Unreal experiences... scarey.... made this little mushroom want to explore more.... then he got mostly the first type of high dose experiences talked about.


Basically high dose salvia experiences are scary and confusing as fuck.... and low doses are confusing and make you angry most of the time. This little mushroom got to the point where he was afraid and still is afraid to smoke salvia.... to achieve the full effects. He cannot do it anymore. He will light the pipe and take in the hit... but let it out immediately. You need to hold it in as long as possible... then pack and take another one immediately after.... its best to pack the next hit as you hold in the first.. This will fucking blast you into scary places. Letting out the first hit too fast, gives you an uncomfortable light effect... that in most cases made this little mushroom angry. He doesn't enjoy being angry.... and his fear surely consumed him... so he has not touched salvia in 3 years...

This little mushroom sort of wants to experiment more with it. He certainly is not finished. He was thinking of chewing the dryed leaves. Thus far... he has only smoked various extracts. This little mushroom has between 20 and 40 salvia experiences within his mind. Ah.... most of them confusing, but some that are quite mesmerizing.



hope this helps. Be safe. Salvia is a fucking beast.

 

[Shambles]

^ That little mushroom has managed to improve on SWIMming no end, but it's still unnecessary and provides no legal protection. Up to you though. Or maybe up to your little mushroom :D

On topic, I generally prefer smoking low-dose Salvia to high dose. Mainly cos it's quite pleasant unlike high-dose Salvia which is best saved for when on MDMA, in my opininionionon. The only use I've found for sillyhigh-dose extractions (60X and their ilk) is in joints to take the edge off (the Salvia). Not necessarily a whole fist o' fun otherwise

 

[omicamushroom]

haha yeah.... my little mushroom.... not quite sure what it does... But the character "I" scares me a little bit. Sometimes the mushroom bit may get confusing... but people get it... maybe. The main point is to describe experiences. This little mushroom is a person with experiences... a good amount of 'em involve psychedelic research.




MDMA and salvia sounds pretty interesting. It may help with the anger this little mushroom sometimes feels after smoking low dose salvia hits.



This little mushroom should mention something about high dose hits. When he generally comes out of them, he often feels rocked by the experience... sometimes as if he didn't ever really come out of the experience. The experience is obviously gone, but he feels still very distant from reality. This is what made this little mushroom give up on salvinorin-A. Maybe one day this little mushroom will have enough courage to begin further experimentation.

 

[weekend addiction]

I tried it about 12 times. I had one enjoyable experience, one okay experience and the rest were pretty terrible. It's possible to have fun with Salvia, but its a waste of time trying. I know its considered a "psychadellic" but I would consider it more of a deleriant because while you do hallucinate its not enjoyable and the drug doesn't provide insight.

 

[That-Strange-Guy]

I eat my little mushrooms

On a side note, small doses of salvia make me feel uncomfortable around people, even if they are also on it. The only way I have been able to enjoy the experience is to take 4 of the largest hits I can possibly take. [By the fifth you should no way in hell be able to comprehend what a mouth or salvia is] I have also noticed too much clutter can confuse you on salvia and so can certian music.

Personally I go in a room with little to nothing inside, light a candle and place it close to a blank wall. Smoke the salvia as stated above and stare at this blank wall. Although your body may feel like an amusement park ride during the trip the blank wall and dull dancing light will make for a more enjoyable experience. It feels a lot like very very deep meditation with an added overwhelming body-high and slight confusion.

 

[blue_locus]

low-dose salvia leaves me with a vague pins-and-needles type feeling, slightly irritable and generally feeling a little "off".

many will disagree w me, but i feel high dose salvia, like a breakthrough dmt dose, isnt particularly useful for figuring shit out. I guess everyone should have the experience of your consciousness being the universe's bitch for a few minutes at least once, but if i wanted an experience where I had poor control over the proceedings and poor recall afterwards, I'd stick with dreaming. Its free, and still legal in all 50 states, last time I checked.

 

[stormyweathers]

even with a low dose of old 20X and a standard lighter, i still was transported into a strange cartoon musical world

 

[Sephirah]

low-dose salvia leaves me with a vague pins-and-needles type feeling, slightly irritable and generally feeling a little "off".

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Very-agreed on the pins and needles feeling. I'm not a huge fan.

 

[any major dude]

i've gotten the pins & needles things too... also i've found low dose, low-ish temp salvia experiences alright when combined with cannabis. I would roll up a joint of roughly 2/3g weed 1/4g 5x salvia and it was definitely a pleasant experience. Definitely not the aircraft carrier catapult into weirdness that the higher potency extracts & excessive bong rips bring. I was just quite relaxed & a bit giggly, extreme couch lock, in fact almost felt as if i were sinking into whatever i happened to be sitting on.

 

[TearItDown]

I tried it about 12 times. I had one enjoyable experience, one okay experience and the rest were pretty terrible. It's possible to have fun with Salvia, but its a waste of time trying. I know its considered a "psychadellic" but I would consider it more of a deleriant because while you do hallucinate its not enjoyable and the drug doesn't provide insight.

It took you twelve times with ONE good experience to not do it anymore? I've smoked salvia twice, personally. Both times were scary as fuck. The first time I smoked with my friend in his car. His windshield turned into a giant clown face and started yelling at us. The second time everything went into slow motion, and black and white. I was recording an old movie, one with those cranks. Not only was I recording it, I was in it, and I could see myself taking the movie at some points. My friend lance was dancing with a manikin, and he came close to me, but because of the salvia he came too close. He was then sort of sucked toward me in slow motion.

I do not suggest salvia, to anyone, ever.