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effects of 200mg of codeine on someone with no opiate tolerance?

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Pars101

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I did about 90mg codeine 2 days ago, ive done kratom 2 times, and last year did opium a couple of times. I would say I have little to no opiate tolerance.

How much codeine must I do to nod? would 200mg be enough or to little? or way to much for some with little tolerance?
 
90mg made me feel spacy, heavy and mild euphoria.. however after 1.30 hours I felt really weird, mild paranoia? (not really paranoia but I just didnt feel right, I was just really anxious).. I want to nod (if possible) and get alot more euphoria etc.. I weigh 60kg height= 167cm
 
Height/weight don't come into it as much as people think, it's more to do with tolerance (natural tolerance can vary hugely). 200mg is over double the dose you tried before, which is a big jump. I would try something a little lower first and work up, especially if you got some disagreeable effects from 90mgs. Also bear in mind codeine isn't noddy for everyone and it's effects can vary. One thing I would definitely recommend is an antihistamine, it can get pretty itchy at high doses!

If you have experience of other opioids, here is a conversion chart. (Doesn't include opium though I'm afraid, potency can vary)
 
Yer, ill try 130mg. Ive heard it can get itchy unfortunatly I dont have antihistamine. What kind of effects can I expect at 130mg? I have little to no tolerance? thanks!
 
Pars101 said:
90mg made me feel spacy, heavy and mild euphoria.. however after 1.30 hours I felt really weird, mild paranoia? (not really paranoia but I just didnt feel right, I was just really anxious).. I want to nod (if possible) and get alot more euphoria etc.. I weigh 60kg height= 167cm
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are u CWE extracting ur codeine from t1's with 15mg caffeine in each to?

This would be the reason for feeling anxious, because the 200mg+ dose of caffeine ends up overpowering the codeine and then ur just a bit wired from the caffeine. I've done up to about 240mg doses of codeine via t1's (15mg caffeine, 8mg codeine, so 30 pills cwe) and if I haven't been doing it alot lately I will get a pretty strong euphoria for about 10-15 minutes, 10 minutes after I dosed, and that's about it lol. The caffeine then takes over and I'm just sorta anxious feeling, I've come to realize its just not worth it. Never came close to nodding. and codeine is the only opiate ive done so I'm opiate niave to (only cwe'd codeine about 20 times I'd say in my life)
 
Shouldn't contain any caffeine. As the other guys said, it's always better to gauge a dose based on your previous reactions than through any other method - if 90mg had you feeling good, you shouldn't increase the dose too much.

A key mistake with opiates (especially the weaker ones, like codeine) is to expect too much. Increasing the dose won't get you fukktup, and it's unlikely you'll get a nod off of it. Doing too high dosages and chasing an effect like this will just end up giving you side effects like increased anxiety and nausea.

So yeah, try 120-130mg and report back on how you feel, but if you're looking for crazy nods and euphoria, may be worth upgrading to a stronger opi.
 
Hey, did around that dose. As previously predicted seroquel dulled the effects to a great extent. However, I still felt warm, spacy and had mild euphoria. If I could find stronger opiates I diff would upgrade, but I can get ahold of most things APART from opiates. Ive turned to kratom and codeine as a result :(
 
DHC is also fairly commonly available OTC in the form of Paramol, and is also CWE'd, so might wanna look out for that. It's a very hit-and-miss sort of opi, but it's a logical progression up from codeine.
 
I usually stick to 120-160mg of codeine on avg and though I don't nod it does get me nice and euphoric with some sedation. 180mg was a good dose for me when I had 30mg/500 co-codomal without to much nausa or difficulty breathin and would let me enjoy the nod without me being anxious about dying in my sleep.



I like how you're going nice and steady without jumping to much. It takes a while before you notice the effects, they can be quite subtle at times so take a minute and try to feel the high. what do you do when you're on codeine? I would only really nod when I took my mind off opiates and started to think about things and my mind would "dream" and I wouldn't realize it until after I twitched or took a deep breath.
 
I may get some dhc today --> "Pharmacy Paracetamol Plus Dihydrocodeine Tablets - 24 Tablets" it has 7.46mg of dhc. Is the extraction the same as normal codeine? water extraction? Is the dosage the same? around 150mg?

When im on codeine I just lay down on my couch and watch t.v, when i feel something I play some Pink Floyd or something. Ive never got anything close to a nod, I dosed around 130mg yesterday. Im not that happy with the high at all tbh, I thought it would be something like Kratom at least. I dosed 3.5 grams enhanced indo kratom, and I was having the greatest time, with this, you come up it sedates you, you feel spacy and mild euphoric. Thats seems to be it. And tbh my expectations are rather high, this is problematic as I cant get any strong opiates.
 
I may have to dose around 200mg to see if I get anything close to what im aiming for!
 
If you are increasing your dose step-wise and 130mgs didn't feel like enough then going up to 200mg isn't unreasonable, it isn't a huge dose - the reason we always suggest you go slowly is that people's response to opioids can vary hugely and you don't want to overdo it accidentally. nAON is correct though - you may be expecting too much from codeine. Some people get more from it that others - a decent dose still hits me hard despite having a fairly high tolerance, but even then I don't find it an especially noddy opioid.

DHC is very variable - some people get no recreational effects from it at all, others find it much more recreational than codeine. It lasts longer and is stronger mg for mg - charts (like the one I linked above) often say 2 x as strong but I don't find it to be quite that strong personally, more like 1.5 times. Work on the assumption that it is twice as strong, however, as you don't know how it will affect you and as I said it can vary hugely.

The CWE process for DHC is identical, yes. Often OTC DCH products (in the UK anyway) don't give you a clear filtrate due to the presence of titanium dioxide in the pills, so be prepared for a cloudy solution - just be careful you have filtered it properly.

Good luck! Be wary of stepping up higher than DHC, once you get a taste for stronger opioids the easiest one to acquire in the UK (usually) is heroin and it's a big jump from CWEing codeine or DHC to using that..
 
Im starting to think that maybe I did not extract the codeine properly. I know the water extraction process fairly well as my friend showed me, but as I have no coffee filter, I use one of those thick tissue papers to filter the paracetamol. Im left with a cloudy substance, its not clear, although its not white either! just mildly cloudy. Perhaps im not doing it very well?

I have NO chance of finding H, I can find most things here but no opiates. Ive tried opium in Iran (oral) but got very little effects which was also a let down.
 
Good, I wasn't suggesting you move on to H :D

Most cocodamol I have come across filters crystal clear but it is possible there is titanium dioxide in them, there are a lot of different brands about. However filtering with tissue paper (no matter how thick) is not ideal. I use kitchen roll if I have no coffee filters but it has to be two layers or it doesn't give a clear solution and you absolutely cannot squeeze it however tempting. Coffee filters are slow but relaible.. sometimes they get gunked up so you can pre-filter through some cloth or tissue paper first if this is a problem for you.

It is worth taking your time and doing it properly - think about how much paracetamol is involved in CWEing the 8/500 pills - easily enough to cause liver damage if you were to ingest it.. be safe :)

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haha yer best not to squeeze it (although it was what I did yesterday) so tempting not to, ill filter it properly this time+ increase my dose. Is there anyway to solidify the codeine? I know this sounds stupid but I hate drinking it, tastes ridiculously bad.

Im gonna go and try and get some co-codomol from my petrol station (I hope they have it). Ill report back later.
 
Pars101 said:
haha yer best not to squeeze it (although it was what I did yesterday) so tempting not to, ill filter it properly this time+ increase my dose. Is there anyway to solidify the codeine? I know this sounds stupid but I hate drinking it, tastes ridiculously bad.

Im gonna go and try and get some co-codomol from my petrol station (I hope they have it). Ill report back later.
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yes, u can just let it evaporate with a fan over it, or using a blow dryer. I put it in a casserole type dish when I do this. But the stuff you end up with which is quite crystally, and for some reason, can't be smashed into a dust powder no matter how hard you try lol, should still only be taken orally. The times I tried it intranasally I didn't really feel phuck all, other then a placebo effect of course. But the truth is, evaping your cold water extract is a waste of time anyways... just man the phuck up, plug ur nose and chase with a sweet beverage... You don't even taste it at all like this.

I use 2-3ml per pill usually, I end up using 40-60ml total (20-30 pills, 160-240mg codeine). This evaporates pretty quickly with a fan + blow dryer.
 
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