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Sykik

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hi all, I would just like to start that a lot of this information is available in a number of other threads... And me compiling this list is more to help me then anything.

Also, any percentages mentioned here may or may not be true, but are only here as a guide. It's all about bioavailability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioavailability
(this list is more to do with pills, but molly is very similar)


Orally - (swallowing)

Pros
  • So fucking easy to do, open your mouth, wash down with fluid
  • Hard to spot - so very easy to do on a dance floor, bus, train, and in public places.
  • Don't get your friends going... omg you did what with your pill

Cons
  • Varying time of come up, depending on many things, metabolism, contents of stomach etc.
  • The percentage absorbed is not anywhere near 100%, alot of people seem to think it is closer to 2/3. So 1/3 is wasted as an estimate. Due to natural body functions, like the liver, kidneys. (you urinate approx 1/3 of it)
  • the pH of the stomach/small intestine is not ideal for absorbing MDMA, as it too acidic.

Oral Subsection - Parachuting/Drinking

Pros
  • Faster method of entering your system (larger surface area)
  • Faster Come up.

Cons
  • Due to faster come up, faster comedown, and less total time
  • same as orally, not all is obsorbed
  • need to chrush the pill, and have either TP, or other device for parachuting with

Sublingual (under the tongue) (a number of people do this technique combined with orally)

Pros
  • faster come up then orrally (people often say faster come-up, with same length as orally)
  • avoids the filtering systems in the stomach so more is absorbed, and a better pH enviroment then the stomach... approx 80% absorbed.

Cons
  • Terrible chemical taste... that some ppl can't stand, and others love (well dont hate)
  • other chemicals in the pills can burn your mouth leaving oulsa's (spelling)
  • best if the pill is crushed to increase surface area for absorption (ppl may spill if they are e-tards)

Plugging (anally, sure there is a better medical term for this :|)

Pros
  • like above a better pH for absorption.
  • the bowle is a very tough place.. and is relatively tough against the type of adulterants that would damage the mouth...
  • highest absorption method next to IV (ppl say 98-99% )
  • ppl swear it is a harder high, and lasts longer

Cons
  • need to insert some foreign object into your rectum
  • can't do it on the dance floor (well you could if you had a dress on i guess :\)
  • Depending on your method of insertion may need a syringe, also need to crush the pill to increase surface area.
  • lube may be needed

Insufflation (up the nose,) aka railing

Pros
  • Absorption times shorter then orally, anally, sublingual (maybe)
  • High is often stated to be harder
  • Obsorbed mainly in the upper regein of the nose, and absorbed into the bloodstream. Ie higher percentage absorbed ~80+%

Cons
  • Need to crush the pill into a fine powder
  • High not as long as orally/annaly/sublingual ppl say
  • needs to be snorted deep into the nose.

Intravenously (IV)

Pros
  • 100% absorbtion rate

Cons
  • adulterants avoid all of the natural filtering systems
  • need to stick a needle into your body
  • Very dangerous, at least compared to other drugs you can IV.

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I do in no way say this is a complete list, I have also tried to be very objective on the pros and cons and not biased

this topic is so people can add, give reasons for me to edit my own pros and cons.

Please keep your replied objective. And hopefully this can turn into a point of call for new BL'ers (with a lot of editing of course :))

Sykik
 
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Con to IV - I'd reword to "adulterants avoid all of the natural filtering systems" because that's the major problem with IV'ing pills imo

and "Plugging" is a better term than Anally :P

Nice list too!
 
Ive done all the above, IV'ing is a little drastic and not for everyone, plugging works great IMO.....but when all comes to all, its a pill so NECK IT.
 
Im pretty tired so may have missed it but I didnt see Parachuting or drinking it...............ie crushing it and disolving in water or coke etc.

Both are very fast methods of getting into your system but as with any fast come up, the come down is faster as well and as such the total up time is slightly less.

I would also add to IV use that it is extremely dangerous unless done correctly.........moreso than most other drugs as i understand it.

Regards the absorbtioon percentages, I am pretty sure they are false and have been proven wrong...........that in fact the difference is bugger all in absorbtion rates............I will try and find the documentation, its in the Directory somewhjere.
 
Wait, so if i plug I will get a longer lasting and faster come up so the time I am off my face will be longer?
 
yeh just to clarify a few points

-if u snort a pill the come up is faster then oral and the high is increased but the duration of good effects is decreased?
-is that the same with plugging or does plugging result in a long high as well as a strong one
 
Romie1092 said:
This worth trying compared to swallowing it? and how long would you say it takes to disolve?
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10-20min, then rinse mouth out with water and swallow.. check in the ectasy directory for a massive thread about this topic..

skatkid said:
yeh just to clarify a few points

-if u snort a pill the come up is faster then oral and the high is increased but the duration of good effects is decreased?
-is that the same with plugging or does plugging result in a long high as well as a strong one
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Now the first question is yes imo. The second question is yes imo, but is highly debated.. Again check ectasy directory for links...

dang.. i think im going to have to place links in that list... (or maybe just one to ectasty directory)

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* Firstly, it a better pH environment, so a higher percentage is absorbed and more efficiently (ppl say 80% )
* faster come up? people often say faster come-up, with same length as orally....
* avoids the filtering systems in the stomach so more is absorbed
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The first and third reasons are redundant.
 
serotoninstorm said:
As MazDan said, your missing a couple routes of administration. Other than that, great job.
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Which of routes of administration? a list of them would be great:/

are you suggesting modifications on the standard roots... cause if thats it.. fuck the list would go on forever :s
 
Oral Subsection - Parachuting/Drinking

Pros

* Faster method of entering your system (larger surface area)
* Faster Come up.


Cons

* Due to faster come up, faster comedown, and less total time
* same as orally, not all is obsorbed
* need to chrush the pill, and have either TP, or other device for parachuting with
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been there since MazDan said it :)
 
Parachuting and drinkin are 2 different things, are they not?

I thought parachutin (bombin in UK) was when u wrap a crushed amount of something in rizla and swallow it.. where as i would say drinkin would be letting it dissolve in a liquid first, then drinking.. both will have seperate pros' and con's, come up times, intensity etc..
 
rickolasnice said:
Parachuting and drinkin are 2 different things, are they not?

I thought parachutin (bombin in UK) was when u wrap a crushed amount of something in rizla and swallow it.. where as i would say drinkin would be letting it dissolve in a liquid first, then drinking.. both will have seperate pros' and con's, come up times, intensity etc..
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Correct.
 
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