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ecstasy substitutes?

I don't get the shroom thing either. Shrooms can be very euphoric and tactile, sometimes even moreso than MDMA. But empathy is the distinguishing effect that makes MDMA so unique, and while there are other drugs that envoke feelings empathy, I have never gotten this effect from mushrooms (nor do I know anyone who has).
 
BTW, I've been hearing some good things about IAP, which is supposed to be "MDMA-like" in nature. There are some mixed reports though
 
Something that I experience with MDMA that I don't find with any other drug is this sense of expectation. It feels like "something wonderful is about to happen." And that fuels a sense of excitement in the whole of the MDMA experience for me.
 
Get your self a girlfrieand (bf). That will make you feel loved up!
You cant come closer than that on anything else.
Mushrooms,Mescaline or dirty speed wont do it!

Or maby you just wanna get "fucked up" then just mix something!

If not, and you dun wanna have a gf/bf or if your gay and theres no gays near you! Then just buy some clean MDMA powder, do a small dose (ONE DOSE) and when your comming down, drink some milk, eat some food, swallow some 5htp smoke a joint and go to bed, next day you feel good, exept your a lil tired! Still not worse than alcohol. bcuz nothing else is going to work.

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before i ever started doing mdxx i once tried on a cruise ( i heard that they fuck you up from some kids i met) and we took 3 zolofts each and i drank a little and then i smoked some bud and im not sure if its the bud or alcohol or what, but i felt something i had never felt before, i was smiley and felt warm and everything around me was brighter... i can say that now thinking back on it, i can almost compare it to x
 
I recommend Neurontin

My friends and I have been using Neurontin (Gabapentin) at doses ranging from 800 mg to 4000 mg to achieve an MDMA-like dissolving of social anxiety and warm, open mood that is very E-like.
Everyone I know who tries it likes it.
Its wonderful stuff- not too strong, but very "there". Very sociable substance. No hangovers, and you can eat and sleep on it.
Plus you can buy it from online pharmacies.
I'm on it right now, in fact. Definately check it out.
 
Ive found that 1gram of mushrooms = 60mg MDMA = 150mg Mescaline.. At those low doses the drugs feel almost interchangeable(and yes ive done all three at lower and higher doses).. At this point it is brightened sensations with a mild peace/empathy feeling..

However, once the dosages increase, the drugs split from their similar origins to take very different paths..

There is no other drug that can recreate the peak of MDMA/MDA.. MDMA is extremely unique and seems to take the best qualities of every drug class to sort of make a super drug..

Inhibtion lowering of alcohol
Mental clarity/Friendlyness of uppers
Warm body euphoria of opiates
Insight of hallucinogens

All merging together to equal one zenned out feeling of transcedental bliss!
 
DXM 1st plateau. 1.5-2.5 mg/kg (150mg for someone who weighs 70kg)
I think i remember reading somewhere that it is slightly simlier to MDA.
read the effects of dxm on erowid. it says things about empothy & mood lift & diluted pupils. I have tried this & I felt slightler happier & music sounded better.
this stuff is cheap & easy availible.
I also read somewhere that E has stimlulating effects like Meth & hollusigenic effects like mescaline. therefor being a holusigenc stimulent.
ive had codeine after a couple of drinks before & it made me talkitive. some ppl would say this is dangerous. but i think its safe as long as u dont over do it. I dont know about other opiates mixed with alcohol. I cant imagine it bein safe.
anyways DXM!!!
 
1-2 grams is perfect for an MDMA substitute for me.

2 grams may be too hard for some at first, but after
the initial effects (anxiety) subsides, its all remarkably
euphoric from there on.
 
I agree with the piracetam/5-htp combo. I've tried 2400mg piracetam/200 mg 5-htp/alcohol/low dose of caffeine and it feels mildly like the comeup.

There's some *very* interesting fun to be had with a particular interaction of deprenyl but i feel best not to post it here for safety reasons.
 
After I discovered Ecstasy, I immediately started trying to find substitutes. My first roll was the most beautiful experience of my life, and I decided to only use E for very special occasions.

There is no substitute for MDMA. There are some things that are somewhat similar...

- Low doses of DXM

At the levels where it doesn't feel dissociating, DXM can feel like E in a way. Euphoria, lowered inhibitions, music sounds much better, dancing feels good. There's no strong push, like E though...much more mild. Adding ephedrine makes it feel more like MDA, more of a stimulant feel. Adding pseudoephedine gives more of a "flooring" feel to it, reminiscent to MDMA, but not nearly as strong. Adding small amounts of ketamine increases the euphoria, and gives more of a 'push.'

- Methylone

Aka 3,4-methylenedioxy-n-methylcathinone, probably as close as you're going to get to a real substitute for MDMA/MDA. Not exactly the same experience, but closer than anything else out there that I know of.

- (Meth)amphetamine

I don't particularly care for stimulants like methamphetamine, but I've seen many people take pills with nothing but methamphetamine in them and think they're rolling. There's some similarities: stimulation, euphoria, and increased social aspect.

- Lower doses of many psychedelics

Not just shrooms (although they're one of the better choices for this topic), but taking 'sub-psychedelic' doses of many different tryptamines and phenethylamines can have an Ecstasy-like feel to them.
 
Cocaine is one hell of a drug! (Quote from: Rick James)

And my third favorite drug after MDA & MDMA
 
Well, the only two drugs I've ever found that could satisfy my new craving for E besides E are a-MT and shrooms.

Both times that I tripped shrooms, the extreme euphoria of MDA was present. Maybe it is just me, but I see that others are somewhat agreeing with me. Sure, mushrooms kick your ass in the psychedelic sense but I find them to be extremely euphoric.

As for a-MT, it blasted MDx's euphoria into oblivion! Sure, the come-up was kind of rough and took about 2-3 hours, but once it hit, I had the MDxx rushes for a good 6-8 hours. The best way that I could describe a-MT would be a candyflip, and others have shared that sentiment. Visuals had a tendency to be LSD-like in nature, things morphing and flowing, while the euphoria was much "cleaner" than MDxx could touch. Also, I find it necessary to note that tolerance wasn't a factor. I could (and did) trip a-MT all week, dosing every day, with no real dimishing in the effects. The visuals tapered a little, but not much, and the euphoria actually seemed to be getting better.

a-MT isn't by any means "safe" though, since it is a research chemical.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Well, the only two drugs I've ever found that could satisfy my new craving for E besides E are a-MT and shrooms.

Both times that I tripped shrooms, the extreme euphoria of MDA was present.

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i do agree that shrooms can give you the MDXX effects as it did for me the couple times i did it. however, after 1 hour or so of pure euphoria, the shrooms just threw me to the other end of the spectrum by giving me a bad trip for the next few hours. i just say no to shrooms now.
 
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