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skahead17

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i HATE the bullshit Ecstacy myths

i know many of you on BL have haerd this before but im not asking if these myths are true im just starting a discussion about how i hate the myths and if you hate the myths. first off the reason they piss me of so much cause i used to have this job where my manager was a huge drinker. he was a college kid, drank a shitload and would always tell me of his partying stories. so one time we got into talkin about drugs and hes says he doesnt do any just alcohol. and i told him that i dont like to drink but i have my fun with other things. so he starts talkin to me about how i should be creful with certain drugs especially ecstacy. he tells me i should never do it at all and that its the worst drug of all even worse than heroin. he tell sme it puts holes in your brain and slowly eats away brain tissue. so i reply with "well man, you now there are alot of myths out there" so then he gives me some shit about how his ex-girlfriends dad is a scientist and has done some breakthrough experiments on the drugs effects on the brain, and thats its all true, also he tell sme that some girls he knew from high school who would roll alot is now paralyed from E. so this guy would preach this shit to me all the time. and one day i juat said."okay man ive done e and i love it." and he say, wel dont do it again, you can get paralyed.

so my point is this, the majority of people im hang around with are my age (18) i go to alot of shows and the kids im around are drug users so there's is really no hassle there, but when i come back to my hoe town and mention things to other people is when the shit about all those D.A.R.E stories and myths come out. and i fucking hate it, cause none of them are truth at all, they arent even based on truth.
 
haha theres this fat lass who is usually at the same parties me and my friends go to, and she's always whinging about something haha, first it was how weed will make you blind. Then she saw us all on speed and flipped saying it would make our body eat our bones. (O_o)

Then came the magic day when we went to a party buzzed up and she told us the old spinal fluid tale hahaha, we all said stfu stupid. Then we discovered her mom is a drug counsellor so knows everythig about drugs hahaha. Silly cow. =(
 
Yea, E has a really really bad rep in certain people's minds. The unfortunate thing is that it's driving everyone to do coke instead of pills.

It's absolutely ridiculous because coke is seen as a bit of classy fun, nothing can go wrong, whereas if you pop a pill then you'll fall down dead. In reality a lot of these people are getting themselves in a lot of trouble with coke due to its price and addiction potential.
 
I've come across numerous people who just aren't educated on the subject (MDMA). Maybe it's from leading a sheltered life. I'm sure the majority of the ignorance towards MDMA is due to government propaganda and spin doctors. If something is "enjoyable", and the government can't tax it, it's labeled as evil. Then, as I said, the propaganda flies. And just by that, you can weed out the sheep that follow the heard. We need more free-thinkers.
 
I don't even listen to people like that...There are myths with every drug...

Personally, my least favorite myth is how LSD stays in your spine forever....This is always being spit from the mouth of people who binge drink on a regular basis and chain smoke cigarettes...

They think I'm crazy when I bash them for drinking and smoking, and I got my LSD and exercise.
 
skahead17 said:
i know many of you on BL have haerd this before but im not asking if these myths are true im just starting a discussion about how i hate the myths and if you hate the myths. first off the reason they piss me of so much cause i used to have this job where my manager was a huge drinker. he was a college kid, drank a shitload and would always tell me of his partying stories. so one time we got into talkin about drugs and hes says he doesnt do any just alcohol. and i told him that i dont like to drink but i have my fun with other things. so he starts talkin to me about how i should be creful with certain drugs especially ecstacy. he tells me i should never do it at all and that its the worst drug of all even worse than heroin. he tell sme it puts holes in your brain and slowly eats away brain tissue. so i reply with "well man, you now there are alot of myths out there" so then he gives me some shit about how his ex-girlfriends dad is a scientist and has done some breakthrough experiments on the drugs effects on the brain, and thats its all true, also he tell sme that some girls he knew from high school who would roll alot is now paralyed from E.
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the guy is obviously a fuckign idiot. just school him with direct questions, such as "are you referring to the george ricaurte study done at hopkins?" (in regards to the holes in the brain) and when he says he doesn't know, as he most likely will, you say that ricaurte is the one who led that study. he will say yeah, then, you tell him how the study was retracted after ricaurte admitted it was meth, not mdma used in the study. thanks to maps and rick doblin. then you proceed to tell him about the therapeutic uses of mdma. and it was recreational abuse that led to it's scheduling, not harmful effects.

as for the paralysis, never disregard something no matter how absurd it sounds until you research it yourself.

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a748737371~db=all

now, whether there is indeed direct causation with regards to mdma, who knows.

in the end, you never convince most people, but you calmly state facts and that is all you can do. but what are you trying to convince them of anyway...that it is safe? it isn't, really....but i do agree that irrational fear is dangerous. more dangerous than the drug itself, when you consider how many people lose their lives in prison bc of it.
 
The biggest ecstasy myth where I live is that if you take more than 17 rolls in your life, you(men) cant preduce a baby. I actually know two 20, 21 year old guys that rolled up to 17 and stoped afraid if they went over they couldnt have kids.8)
I was scared about It b4 I wised up and and got info. I gept track of how many rollz I've taken still tyo this day, and I dont really know why? lol
 
what i hate the most are people that dont stop to praise the benefits of e without saying a single word about the bad sides.
 
all i do is praise i!!

I still hate the people dying from x myth.....gave the pill a bad name fro such along time and u know the media isnt the one hat pointed out to the public that they wherent x pills...they where whatever else!

After the CNN report bout how x and wherent werent as deadly as alchol or cigarettes, i had alot of friends who looked at me and said "what, now im confused,i thought x killed alot of people"

ya,so i get to fix the medias blunders for not correcting what they pushed down our throats 10 years ago!
 
My roll motto....
"Rollz dont kill rollerz, stupid rollerz do."
Not the x, its the people who are careless enough to die becuase of thier non- intelegince w/ X.
 
My biggest problem with folks that actually spout E Myths as Truth is the complete faith they take their info on. They seem to think that governments know best or that something they "hear" from someone about E is the absolute facts. They government won't even do tests on E because of the scheduling....how would they know? How would their friends know when they haven't even tried the drug let alone done extended testing on it? They spout them without even bothering to check up on whether it's true or not. This type of mentality classifies them as Sheeple in my book. If they can't do any research on their own, they don't deserve to try E. Leave it to those of us that are responsible, intelligent and investigative about it. LOL
...but then again I always have a problem when someone runs their mouth about things they know nothing about.... ;)
 
From what I understand, back in the 80's there was a study done on it paid for by the government that showed it to cause brain damage. The DEA used this as reason to ban it and make it a Schedule I substance. The study was highly flawed though, and even suggested that 1 pill could cause Parkinsons disease. This, of course, totally didn't match up with reports of people using it. The effects of this study were never duplicated, and no research ince has ever shown that normal MDMA usage is particularily neurotoxic. More recently, the MDMA used in thiis study was exposed to have been contaminated with methamphetamine, which can of course cause brain damage.

MDMA does have potent effects, and a large enough dose, or if used over a long enough time may possibly cause brain damage, but these cases are ususally rare. Stories of it causing impotence don't reallyshow to be accurate either, although it can sometimes cause erectile dysfunction in some men. Ususally this effect goes away when it wears off though.
 
imo people dying from e related causes have it worse off than the rest of us, stupidity or no stupidity...

i would prefer to blame sensationalist media; i heard in the uk they don't release public reports about deadly batches when they are first seized, which certainly doesn't do ANYBODY any favours...
 
Hell yeah. I know a lot of people that are like, I would NEVER EVER do ecstasy. That shit puts holes in your brain and you can die from rolling just ONCE. Like, uh, wtf? People act like ecstasy is the worse drug you can ever do.
 
Pretty_Diamonds said:
Hell yeah. I know a lot of people that are like, I would NEVER EVER do ecstasy. That shit puts holes in your brain and you can die from rolling just ONCE. Like, uh, wtf? People act like ecstasy is the worse drug you can ever do.
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unfortunatly pretty i feel like this is something that we will never be able to fight off in our life time!!

the government JUST started approving research on the drug in the USA (and im sure that is mainly due to other countries open acceptance of it and hat they are already are doing the research!!)

Nixon put us FAR behind on drug research due to his pompus arrogant statement that "drugs" where the cause of the nations rebellion on Vietnam...and thats a hard image to shed!! Kinda like the slutty whore in high school.....when u run into her 10 years later thats the first thing u think of and even though she says she is married u still go "i bet she cheats on her husband"
 
Anyone heard people sayiing 'These pills are smacky' ???

Why the hell would dealers put heroin in ecstasy tablets when they'll get way more profit selling heroin as... Heroin

Seems like any brown specks in pills has to be a 'smacky' pill.
 
pullstring said:
i thought they would be "shitty"
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Lets not forget when you crush up MDMA crystals it turns into a browny colour, perhaps this is the case. The majoraty of speckly pills Ive eaten have been good pills
 
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