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Ecstasy and the immune system.

Indelibleface said:
As many of the physiological changes elicited by MDMA closely resemble those induced by acute stress, it is suggested that exposure to MDMA could be regarded as a ‘chemical stressor’ on the immune system
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I dunno whether this was a government anti-warrior funded research or not but "acute stress"? Are they serious? Not to me it doesn't. The physiological changes elicited by MDMA closely resemble those induced by acute happiness in me.

If it caused me "acute stress" I wouldn't take it.
 
for me it seems to cure colds and pain like a horrible toothache (never having a rebound thing like most ppl)
 
Ismene said:
I dunno whether this was a government anti-warrior funded research or not but "acute stress"? Are they serious? Not to me it doesn't. The physiological changes elicited by MDMA closely resemble those induced by acute happiness in me.

If it caused me "acute stress" I wouldn't take it.
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well i agree on this study as MDMA causes some changes in the body that are simular to stress, so they assume we got the same effects on the immume system

BUT the big diference between stress and mdma is the euphoria :) i actually beleive the euphoria makes our immume system stronger, but i also thing that the comedown makes it weaker... ive had it happen that mdma did not fully kill my extreme cold, but it left me with some weak cold symptons nothing bad but they seemed to stay around longer (weaker immume system on comedown?) maybe that explains the big rebound in colds if it did not kill it off

there is no proof for this tough, just my personal idea :d
 
This is really interesting! And it's good to see that other people have experienced this as well.

Two different times I have taken E. when I had a cold and low fewer. (around 38 degrees celsius) The first time I knew that it was probably not a good idea to drop due to my condition, but I dropped at a party anyway...
I had a great time, and I actually got better!
The following days was normal, no sickness...

As I said earlier I've done this two times with good results. But, I don't really recommend rolling while sick. When you're sick, I think you should stay home :)
 
More anecdotal evidence:

Just a few weeks ago, bad cold, runny nose and aching sinuses. One hit of good E and the next day: cold is gone. It's happened to me a few times at least.

Just my 2 cents.

ciao.
 
Was a long time ago but i started to develop a cold on a Thursday, dropped on Friday and it didn't go any further.
 
I dropped 2 pills friday and I could feel an oncoming cold, it got worse and I was sick for 1 week.
 
+1 for extra-sickness for me

E makes me hella fuckin worse if I were to take it while sick, adding practically another week to the sickness. E with meth makes it even worse (A LOT worse). Either it's the shit-load of newports I smoke or the little bit of alcohol when rolling that does it, but I used to think the same thing about it curing/helping.. but it's only temporary.. what comes up must come down.. and in this case it falls through the fuckin floor... I hate myself so much the next few days when I roll and I'm sick.. It'd be like having a twisted ankle and rolling.. you goto your friends "hey look! i don't even feel it! i can dance!"... then for the next week or so you'll feel like an ass because you're sitting inside with a fucked up ankle... but that's just the obvious physical pain.. so if you're feeling cured off these toxins, I think you got an immune system like Superman or you typed this shit up while rolling lol peace

edit: another thing I'd mention is the type of cold, some sicknesses last a day or two, some last a fuckin week or so.. I think it's the more heavier colds that really get to you.
 
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nakoma74 said:
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Yeah, but were you chillin at home, or out with a bunch of people dancing and shit?
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With 4 years of rolling experience I have yet to rave it up, not even once. The most atmosphere I get when I roll is at little house parties, which not even then will I be dancing or hugging everybody. I seriously probably roll more than half the time at home than I do when I go out (I guess you can say I use it for therapeutic use; but the other [smaller] half is used socially.. with a beer in hand, I fit right in at a drunkard party).. I'm very conscious about germs too, I even get pissed for the 2 seconds my hands are dirty from flushing a stand-up stall, right before washing my hands... now I just kick that shit to flush hehe
 
You're not awake all night at these house parties are you?

The idea is to take it fairly early in the day so you get some euphoria, a bit of extra heat in your body to help kill off the cold and then get a good nights sleep to top it all off.
 
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is there a real connection between ecstasy and the weaken-ing of the immune system? i started rolling about 6 months ago and i roll about once a month (usually around 4 tabs on the nights i do roll) ive always had a very strong immune system and almost was never sick - i have a pretty healthy diet and i exercise atleast twice a week, i am in shape. but for the past 3 months, ive been sick each of those months for almost a week for each illness and the odd thing is my friends aren't really getting sick... i preload and post load using 5-htp. i always roll at raves... i am guilty of sharing drinks and pacifiers with ladies (never guys) but i havent partied in two weeks and now im getting sick now! it isnt normal to get sick 3 times in 3 months! is ecstasy the issue? or am i just extremely unlucky? thanks :)
 
Nearly all amphetamine-like substances have a negative impact on the immune system, and MDMA is no exception.

I've gotten sick several times after taking MDMA. I usually just drown myself in orange juice - does the trick for me.
 
Yeah I tend to also get sick after dropping... its gotten to the point where im actually pretty paranoid / careful after I drop to get full day's sleep + vitamins everyday... otherwise I fear a random flu coming on, etc.
 
Carsick is right (in that there isn't a whole lot of evidence to directly support this claim, but I think it can be widely viewed as a fact that MDMA and other amphetamines will lower the immune system) - actually, there was a thread (a couple actually) not too long ago, discussing getting colds and taking MDMA. I think I'll merge them...
 
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