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Ecstasy – third time – My (Horrible) 5-HTP experience

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Bluelighter
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So I'll start this thread by saying that this was ENTIRELY my fault for being stupid. I don't need any lectures at this point, as I completely realize my mistake, and this won't happen again.

I merely want to share what happened to me and my girlfriend last night as we were rolling.

So, Over the past 6 months, I have rolled twice, and last night was to be our third time together. I have done PLENTY of research on Ecstasy itself, the effects it has on you, the dangers, and things of that nature.

After my first roll, I experienced "suicide sundays" and it was a horrifying experience. My roommate at the time had suggested using 5HTP as a supplement at the end of our roll, to negate those effects.

The second time I rolled, with my gf, we took about 3 5HTP at the end of the night, and sure enough, the negative side effects the following day were gone. At this point, my friend suggested taking 5HTP WHILE we roll to intensify the roll.

Here was my first mistake. As much research as I had done on Ecstasy, I hadn't done ANY on 5HTP. My friend is one of those guys who is always looking for that "next level" whereas, I just want a good roll. So onto last night.

Last night, my gf and I had planned on stacking 3 pills each. We took 1 with a 5HTP at the same time. These were pure MDMA pills, and I wasn't really rolling, so we took the second E and 5HTP about an hour later. Again, I wasn't really rolling, so I began to pop the 5HTP. My belief was that since 5HTP is an HERBAL supplement, that I couldn't OD on it. This was the biggest mistake of all.

Over the course of 3 hours my gf took two E pills, and about 4 or 5 5HTP's. I took 4 pills, and close to 40 5HTP's. The problem is that 5HTP actually MUTES the effects of ecstasy, so I wasn't rolling, and wanted to. The end result was I ended up in front of the toilet for about 3 straight hours. It got so bad that as I would take a drink of water, it would come right back up within seconds of going down. This of course led me to dehydration. Thankfully, my gf wasn't nearly as fucked up as I was, and was able to calm me down, and I began sipping my water so as to not throw up. I never had to go to the hospital (Thank God) but the experience was very horrifying. It won't stop me from rolling monthly, as I know it wasn't the E that got me so messed up. It did however get me to research 5HTP today. I only post this so that others who might be new-er users won't make the same mistakes I did. I am, thankfully, fine today, just a little "hungover" if you will. Headache, and grogginess...probably thanks to the dehydration, but I am Ok. Lesson learned. So in summary:

-5HTP mutes the roll. It can EXTEND the roll only if you take 1 or 2 at the END of your roll night.

-You CAN Overdose on it, and the experience is quite the opposite of fun. Never take more than 2 or 3 of these, and then, again, only at the end of your night.

-When throwing up liquid, which leads to dehydration, sip your water, don't gulp. Take in very small amounts, and your body wont reject it as easily.

Again, I dont need a lecture. I'm 27, my gf is 25, neither of us is stupid, we are just inexperienced, and I made one bad decision without basis for that decision. I hope that this post is helpful to someone like us who merely wants to have a good time, but doesn't necessarily have all the answers.

Thanks for listening (reading).
 
You're lucky you didn't get very, very severe Serotonin Syndrome.

The very most i'll take while rolling is 300mg (which will double how hard I roll, and extend it too), and that's only because I know about interactions and how much I can handle. I'm i'm telling others to do it, then i'll be telling them 150mg.

And no, 5-HTP doesn't mute MDMA. It does seem to for some if taken beforehand through a mechanism that I don't understand (and seemingly, neither does anyone else) but certainly not for all!
 
I take 100 mg of 5-HTP for the few days before i roll and 250 the day right before.
The day of I dont take any 5-HTP until afterwards and each pill i pop is the bombest roll ever.
 
Yeah...mind you, I didn't really KNOW how many I was taking. Since I had already assumed that you couldn't OD on herbal supplements, I really just wasn't paying attention.

As for the muted roll...it DEFINITELY muted my roll, and everything I've read online says the same thing. That taking WHILE rolling will just minimize the effects of the roll. But whatever...to each his own I'm sure. Every body is different right?

Yeah, 300 mg doesn't sound like that much after you've taken 4000. Each one of those pills was 100 mg, and I just wasn't paying attention. Meh, thank whoever's watching over me for letting me dodge that bullet eh?
 
The caps I have are 150mg. When I take it, I never take more then 2 at one time. It's good stuff, you just have to not go overboard. But you know that.
 
Ok, Been...I don't need a lecture. As I pointed out throughout my ENTIRE post, I made a mistake...albeit a stupid one, and I have learned my lesson. The point of a lecture is to teach a lesson. I got it.

As for why I took 40. If you really READ my post you would have read that I didn't realize how many I was taking. Since I had figured I couldn't OD on herbal supplements (my mistake), I wasn't even paying attention to how many I was taking. I honestly thought I had taken between 8-10. It wasn't until the following morning when I counted the remaining pills in the bottle that I realized how many I had taken. Again, this post was more or less for informing other people who might be as inexperienced as I about the dangers of 5HTP. Whereas it can be a great FOLLOWUP supplement at the end of a roll, it really shouldn't be taken during, or in excess.
 
5htp is more dangerous taking while coming down then on other days.

if i consume 300mg of 5htp while im coming down i get intense nausea to the point wher i fall to the ground and have massive headspins feeling like i want to die (serotonin syndrome??)

tho if i consume 400mg or more at once on days after im completly fine....

now a 300mg dose is like 3x 5htp caps.
if u took 40 then i dunno how ur alive right now.
 
i just dont understand why thinking about taking 40 of ANYTHING seemed like a good idea...

this is the reason why there are drug over doses.
 
allfunkedout said:
i just dont understand why thinking about taking 40 of ANYTHING seemed like a good idea...

this is the reason why there are drug over doses.

what i don't understand is why people still think that taking 5HTP just before/after a roll will have any noticable effect on your recovery at all

you have to be taking regular doses every day for a few weeks for it to really help you - part of your diet
 
Geez... It's people like that who end up getting ecstacy or any drug of choice an evil label. "Oh, the kids are dying on this shit! We must take it off the streets before it happens to your kids!" 40 5HTP pills... herbal supplement or not, that's just plain stupid. Have you been playing with lead based toys from China or something?
 
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