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swims first time considering geting x and it has meth in it.. would it be safe for him to try one pill? hes thinking of starting with half a pill..

swim doesnt like the idea of meth but i want to try x. swims budy said the efects synergize..

input?
 
We don't swim here. How does your friend know there is meth in the pill? Did he test it? My opinion is if you are going to roll for the first time you should drop pills that contain MDMA only because that is the only way to get the true experience of ecstasy. I suggest that you read through the ecstasy directory here on this site to gather information on what to expect. Above all I suggest that if you are going to partake of rolling that you purchase a testing kit. Have fun and be safe.
 
-Get a test kit and try to find Ecstasy that just contains MDMA
-Read the rules, don't use SWIM. It does nothing to protect you and makes your posts hard to read.

While the risk of mixing methamphetamine and MDMA is the whole stimulant+stimulant problem, it will probably mud the effects of the MDMA. I believe if you're going to be using a drug for the first time...just use that drug, don't start mixing it on your first time.
 
Sounds like the ultimate brain death combo.

Serious potentiation of neurotoxicity here, 9 chances out of ten your going to regret it, not to mention the fact MDMA is more of a relaxed, I love you feeling, while meth is a lets get the fuck otg and fuck some shyt up kinda buzz.

Overall sounds like a terrible idea, I wouldn't even contemplate it.

my .02
 
Wait so it was being sold as X and is actually meth? Or it has x and meth in the same pill?
 
somedud said:
Sounds like the ultimate brain death combo.

Serious potentiation of neurotoxicity here, 9 chances out of ten your going to regret it, not to mention the fact MDMA is more of a relaxed, I love you feeling, while meth is a lets get the fuck otg and fuck some shyt up kinda buzz.

Overall sounds like a terrible idea, I wouldn't even contemplate it.

my .02
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^thisssssss.
meth is just gonna enhance the neurotoxicity.
plus its your first time with MDMA (if thats what you really have), dont spoil it by adding in meth:|
 
Yes, meth increases the toxicity of MDMA.
This is known for certain.
A dopamine/MDMA metabolite is the prime suspect in MDMA toxicity.
It makes it way into the SERT and receptor after serotonin levels are depleted, starting about 3 hours after MDMA dosing.

But it likely potentiates the release of dopamine.
So it will improve the roll, esp if the MDMA content is low.
Adding meth to a poor quality MDMA pill is one way to increase profit and sneak it into new or inexperienced users.
You would expect to have more tooth grinding, jaw churning bullshit - which is a sign of dopamine neurotoxicity.
MDMA and meth both damage striatal dopamine neurons, which appear to sacrifice themselves for the sake of meso-limbic dopamine.

Pure MDMA is much more euphoric and 'clean' feeling, although it is still neurotoxic.
Speedy MDMA feels dirty as shit.

Regular meth users often CANNOT ROLL at all.
They don't even see the point of MDMA.
That tells you something right there.

Those who do like to combine them normally recommend taking a SMALL dose of meth during the comedown.
Taking it at any other point can RUIN the roll, completely overpowering it and making it feel dirty and disgusting.
The two drugs do not belong together.

And MDMA should not be taken multiple times in a night.
This is the most important rule.
 
If you're not reagent testing yourself, I'd be VERY suspicious of a supposed "meth/MDMA" pill. Sometimes someone will claim this is the contents when it's simply just methamphetamine or piperazine (very unpleasant).
 
thanks for the help. i asked my friend if he could get molly and he said maybe in the future but rite now the chemist cut all his shit with meth... so stupid haha
 
If you're new to E .. I just would have my doubts of the purity of the mdma , it is truly sad how some E pills are even CUT WITH MDMA ..like cutting baking soda with COKE instead of the other way around .

- testing kits people on here will repeat that a ton because it is pretty much the only way to know what you are taking 100% or as close to that as possible and they don't cost much I've heard 25$


As for the whole what's in the pill you could get meth bombs as in ritalin w/ adderal even with caffeine and maybe some md something but usually it's pma (piperzine) .

Be careful I went for awhile being lucky knowing some1 who just always had good pills but that still doesn't mean I did pure mdma back then but at least it wasn't pure meth lol

you can find your pills sometimes on pillreports.com as well , they'll show you the test results and a review of most pills if it isn't on there and you don't have a test kit not much I can say .
 
severely etarded said:
I would still test it. A lot of times people sell BZP as meth/molly. BZP sucks :\
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BZP can't be so bad I mean you don't want it but better that than some other stuff or complete dud sometimes from what I've read shortly on it ...

is it weaker or does it do something worse that molly makes better ? From what I read it sounds like a perfect knock off for molly ..not mdma but a rip off that would be close enough you don't need all that extra stuff like meth to convince some1 its mdma of anytype ?
 
Joker117 said:
BZP can't be so bad I mean you don't want it but better that than some other stuff or complete dud sometimes from what I've read shortly on it ...

is it weaker or does it do something worse that molly makes better ? From what I read it sounds like a perfect knock off for molly ..not mdma but a rip off that would be close enough you don't need all that extra stuff like meth to convince some1 its mdma of anytype ?
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I took pills that were BZP mixed with it's hallucinogenic cousin TFMPP. Horrible experience, constant anxiety, thought I was going to die, heart pounding, vomiting headache.

I would test. I prefer taking a dud than pipes :(
 
I've taken press that contained meth and MDMA and it was not pleasant, particularly the comedown. As was said.. absolute brain destroyer, and not in a good way. I felt like crap for the next three days after taking it. Not fun.

And indeed.. BZP OR TFMPP by themselves are not too bad, but acting together as one.. watch out!
 
Is MDMA and methamphetamine safe?????

neither of those two drugs are safe lol

but yeah go for it its not gonna kill you but you will feel like a bag of poo for 2 days afterwards.
 
MarkoPolo said:
Is MDMA and methamphetamine safe?????

neither of those two drugs are safe lol

but yeah go for it its not gonna kill you but you will feel like a bag of poo for 2 days afterwards.
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Meth alone will just leave you soooo drained so common sense says yeah and MDMA drains chems in your brain like Serotonin and dopamine which basically in short make you feel good..soo again common sense yeah won't be feeling great the next day.

But sometimes you feel fine the next day and every1 is different you never know you can take the same pills 1 year and the next and 1 time the next day you feel high still or just normal and never have a problem and 1 year you feel like you downed 2 handles of vodka and don't know how you will get threw the next few hours because you're so worn out you just want to sleep lol

Also as said above MDMA and Meth are "safe" in the way you're asking but nothing is truly safe heck water can kill you lol

I hope you end up without a hangover , it is possible and makes everything more enjoyable when you look back months from now about mdma...
 
Meth is never safe unless you don't do it a lot but it's just a dirty drug. Pure MDMA in moderation can have lasting psychological benefits for some. Others it may make depressed. Everyone is different
 
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