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east coast raver here. a couple days ago on new years i experienced a seizure at a rave/club. I had only taken one and a half pills. however, on the comeup i experienced a wierd feeling which i think was anxiety. the only way to describe the way i felt on the come up was that i shouldnt have been there and was tripping out thinking i could possibly die. (the pillls i took were clean and i was with friends who took the same ones and did not have this awful comeup). when the roll finally kicked in i felt a lot better and was dancing and having a good time with my buddies. i took the first pill around 730 and took another half around 1030. throughout the night i drank two gatorades and two waters.around 12 i was coming down slowly and decided to go sit and take a break. the dance floor was very crowded when me and my buddy were exiting the stage and thats when i experience trouble. we were walking to the back of the stage when i looked back towards the dj there were strobe lights going off. i believe this is what triggered my seizure. the best way to describe what happened is that the light from the strobe went into my eye and messed with my brain. i started convulsing like i was being attacked by bees in my head and then i black out. my friend said i fell to the floor and got up a couple seconds after and then was taken to a first aid tent by security. i was then put into an ambulance and taken to a nearby hospital to make sure i was alright.

i had rolled 2 times previously without having a seizure. im scared to roll again and will probably not for a very long time. however, i am curious as to what the cause of this was. i have no history of seizures in my life and i am 19 years old. i knew about the dangers of overhydrating( which i read can cause seizures) so that is why i drank the sports drinks with electrolytes. the most pills i have taken is two and have rolled 3 times including this time with a seizure. i have spaced out the time of rolling every 2-3 months. i am also very active and in good shape and have a decent healthy diet.

any thoughts would be greatly appreciated as i am very traumatized by this event and will be very sad if raves/edm events would be too dangerous to go to now due to the lighting.

thank you:)
 
I wouldn't jump on MDMA right away, strobe lights are a huge cause of epileptic seizures. overheating is another big factor in that environment.
 
Yeah, I'll throw the blame on the strobes but MDMA did play a role, no doubt. I'd be turned off of MDMA for a while, too, especially after a hospital trip. Sounds odd to me though since you have no history of seizure and are in good health. Still can't rule out the possibility of contaminants, but I'm not the one who took the pill so I'm not going to speculate on that.

I just remembered when i was a kid, there was a pokemon episode that gave hundreds of Jap kids seizures because of a strobing light and they banned the epidsode. /random
 
i know it was directly because of the strobe lights but i also think the mdma might have made the strobe light more intense. would you guys recommend wearing sunglasses next time i decided to go to an event? im very passionate about the music and i love rolling at them on occasion but as of right now id rather just go sober to make sure it doesnt happen again... do you think dark lensed sunglasses would help against the intense strobes?
 
yes i saw that but i didnt find any help with my situation because i have never had any issues with epilepsy and im just trying to see if anyone else has had a similar experience and how they dealt with it.
 
sorry this is probably an important detail, but 3-4 weeks prior i took 70mg of vyvanse to study for finals for school so this could have maybe had an effect?
 
not a massive effect but who knows depending on personal chemistry ? stimulants are too much in some cases, and i've been really... twitchy before which lead to some concern. I think it's even worse when one tries to trip beyond their means like to try to get high when one has already recently, led to a very uncomfortable situation where one of my arms or legs alternately would flex in an extreme way to to overstimulation.

some people are built for much smaller doses IME
 
Strobe lights can cause seizures and other reactions (hallucinations/panic attacks) in susceptible persons even without mdma.
Taking E may have made you more sensitive to the flashing lights.
Also you say you left 3 hours between doses. Too long IMHO.
Next time you roll just try doing it in a safe and secure environment.
grtz
 
Strobes and MDMA can really mess your head up - add to that if you have been dancing for ages etc then it could be a number of things that started you off.

I personally wouldnt simply blame the strobes and would be very caution with MDMA if you intend using again.
 
Yea i wouldn't just simply put if off to the strobe lights. You said you took 1 and a half pills, which is not a lot at all even for a small person like my self. If you had taken like 6 pills for instance than yes you could most probably blame the light triggering it. But you should definitely be cautious, because there are thousands of ravers who get up close light shows with beaming strobes in there face and no seizure occurs. You may be over sensitive, or who knows your pills may have seemed 'clean', but in fact had meth or some pipe combo which would play a great roll in seizure.
 
This happened to me the first time I rolled.. We were at a roll party with about 5 people and we were all coming down. I got up to go to the bathroom, and then woke up in my friend's bed with no idea how i got there. my friends told me that I started having convulsions and then passed out. No one else at the party experienced this yet we all took the same pills and the same amounts.
Looking back at the entire night i can chalk it up to over stimulation of the brain (rolling nuts for the first time, getting light shows and back massages, and dancing non stop for hours) and over hydration. I have rolled numerous times since then and have never had another seizure.

I expect the strobes to have played a huge part in your seizure but it could also have been the pills.. Ever since my seizure i have always had a bad reaction to pills (i.e. throwing up or extreme anxiety) My friends suggested Molly and she has always treated me great so i am passing that suggestion on to u. Hope that helps and try to just take things easy next time.
( Another thing that helps when i can't get molly is to break my pills into quarters and take them slowly ) ~PLUR~
 
yeah our situations sounds very familiar. i also experience extreme anxiety on the come up of the pills i took
 
raver24 said:
east coast raver here. a couple days ago on new years i experienced a seizure at a rave/club. I had only taken one and a half pills. however, on the comeup i experienced a wierd feeling which i think was anxiety. the only way to describe the way i felt on the come up was that i shouldnt have been there and was tripping out thinking i could possibly die. (the pillls i took were clean and i was with friends who took the same ones and did not have this awful comeup). when the roll finally kicked in i felt a lot better and was dancing and having a good time with my buddies. i took the first pill around 730 and took another half around 1030. throughout the night i drank two gatorades and two waters.around 12 i was coming down slowly and decided to go sit and take a break. the dance floor was very crowded when me and my buddy were exiting the stage and thats when i experience trouble. we were walking to the back of the stage when i looked back towards the dj there were strobe lights going off. i believe this is what triggered my seizure. the best way to describe what happened is that the light from the strobe went into my eye and messed with my brain. i started convulsing like i was being attacked by bees in my head and then i black out. my friend said i fell to the floor and got up a couple seconds after and then was taken to a first aid tent by security. i was then put into an ambulance and taken to a nearby hospital to make sure i was alright.

i had rolled 2 times previously without having a seizure. im scared to roll again and will probably not for a very long time. however, i am curious as to what the cause of this was. i have no history of seizures in my life and i am 19 years old. i knew about the dangers of overhydrating( which i read can cause seizures) so that is why i drank the sports drinks with electrolytes. the most pills i have taken is two and have rolled 3 times including this time with a seizure. i have spaced out the time of rolling every 2-3 months. i am also very active and in good shape and have a decent healthy diet.

any thoughts would be greatly appreciated as i am very traumatized by this event and will be very sad if raves/edm events would be too dangerous to go to now due to the lighting.

thank you:)
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Hey there-

Recently I went to a edm show where I was rolling on about .4 of mdma. Definitely was not my first time rolling, and I have rolled on a larger amount of mdma before as well. However this was my first show where we made it to the front of the stage, right at the gate. There was a giant strobe light directly in front of me about 5 or 6 feet away. all of a sudden my whole body shook violently for about 1/2 a second. Then again for about 3 seconds. And after that everything went black. My friends later told me that I went into a full on seizure, my whole body was violently shaking, I was clenching my jaw, I was foaming from the mouth, and I was unconcious for about an hour. I have no history with epilepsy or seizures ever before. I didnt feel sick or light headed or dizzy or anything leading up to the seizure. I was perfectly fine before and after it happened. My conclusion is that molly stimulates part of the brain and when paired with strobe lights or flashing bright lights, it becomes over stimulated, creating a sort of electric thunderstorm in your brain causing a seizure. I think some people are more prone to it than others, and I may have a mild case of epilepsy. I have not gone to a doctor or anything and have not rolled since then. I feel as though If I were to roll again, I wouldnt take as much, and I would be very cautious and careful about my surroundings. It was a very scary experience for me. It breaks my heart that I may not be able to participate in such a fun thing that my friends and I all enjoy together. I havent decided whether or not to roll again yet.

But I will never stop going to shows and festivals. Thats for sure!
 
MDMA lowers the siezure threashold making it easier for people prone to siezuers to have one. that is why it is dangerous to mix MDMA with tramadol or other meds that lower the siezure threashold.

I would be sorting out my siezure issue before rolling again if I were you. you may have a nuerological condition that makes you prone to siezures and MDMA can trigger it. the nextime you take MDMA you might not be so lucky. get to a doc an see if you have anything that might cause siezures before trying MDMA again.
 
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