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For all of you self proclaimed experts that think ecstacy does not come laced with heroin.
I got some pills last night. When I tested them with the Marquis Reagant the color went from pink to purple. At 1st, I had no idea what this meant. I did some research on the site and this is what I found.
Following is a chart showing preliminary results submitted to us for how the Marquis Reagant reacts with a variety of other chemicals. -Opiates- Pink to Purple.
I had snorted heroin a few times back in the early 90's and I was not afraid to try these pills. I urged my girlfriend to not try them, but she wanted too anyway.
We tried them and after about an hour or so, I started having weird feeling in my stomach, almost a sort of pain. She was fine though, so I am not sure what that was. Anyway, we were high for about 5 maybe 6 hours and I was even clinching my teeth and feeling very wobbly. I felt like I was tripping on acid, drunk and high all at the same time.
I guess the moral of this story, is E pills are sold with HEROIN in them, or some sort of opiate. The pills were double/triple stacked purple chanel's. I did a lot of research on these and if not for the test kit, I'd have not taken them with what I found on this site.
 
Did it look like this and was from LA? Or, where do you live?
lg-887-chanel.jpg
 
I'll take you seriously on this one. Do you have any more of these pills. Please, PLEASE, send one of them to Dancesafe so what you say can be verified by more sophisticated lab analysis.
(Also suggest you check the expiry date on your EZ-Test: I was getting some weird results from mine till i realised it was expired).
 
The picture I posted is from dancesafe. The pill in the picture is from the LA area.......that's why I asked.
 
Yes, I have more. I have quite a few. with the Marquis regeant it went from pink to purple. never went to black. did go to black with Mecke regeant. I can take a quick video and some picture with my cam. Give me a little while, I will take some pictures and a video if i can.
 
Ok, I took some photos and posted them on a website. Feel free to go to the link and comment. You can clearly see it goes from pink to purple. Last night, when I tested the purple didn't get nearly that dark. I only tested one of the pills though. I also did the Simon's Regeant test and it did absolutely nothing. That is why I did not include them. Pills are a very light purple and are pretty wide, double maybe triple stacked. here is the link.
http://www.gis.net/~edjr/chaneltest.jpg
 
Remember the green & golds I kept blagging about, well my dealer still insists that they have H in them. I kept arguing how it would not be economical to have H in these caps, & he just replied "You'd be surprised!"
But these caps did sell for significantly higher than your average biccie.
How hard could it be to grow the opium poppy & harvest / produce your own heroin to put in caps?
[ 21 April 2002: Message edited by: Disco Diablo ]
 
For all of you self proclaimed experts that think ecstacy does not come laced with heroin.
Why do you have that attitude?
Since there has never been a pill that has tested positive for heroin, it is fair to say there is no heroin in pills. If evidence shows otherwise, I'm sure you'll find people won't deny it.
This thread would be more appropriate for Pill Testing instead of new to ecstacy. You'll get a more informative response there.
You admit yourself that it appears to contain an opiate, not necessarily heroin, so why do you try to say it is heroin? It could just be codeine. Send one in to be officially tested.
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Good point, I think I'll move this to pilltesting, see what the people there think. Please carry on the discussion over there :)
 
*sigh* we've been over this a thousand times. The original myth was that "XTC" was just a mixture of heroin and cocaine in pill form. Ignorant fools didn't even know that a substance called MDMA existed so they described the feeling thes pills gave as being like "smack and coke all together". Other idiots took them literally, and so one of the myths was born. Then the media grabbed a hold of it and decided that "evil pill makers" were trying to get our kids addicted to heroin by putting it in the pills.
The truth is that yes one or two pills have been tested to contain heroin, but that is one or two pills out of literally millions tested each year. That is statitiscally so small as to be insignificant.
Unfortunately people like to have easy to deal with concepts, black or white. So, various people started a new myth; that there is no heroin of cocaine in pills. This is just as wrong as saying there is heroin and cocaine in lots of pills. Both myths are wrong, it's just that people don't like to remember a concept more complicated than a black and white equation.
Here's an idea, why not stop believing anything one way or the other, and only rely on what you test for yourself. Well done to this person for testing their pills and identifying a potentially harmful adulterant. But there is no need to get so "I told you so" about it...
[ 21 April 2002: Message edited by: johnboy ]
 
The truth is that yes one or two pills have been tested to contain, but that is one or two pills out of literally millions tested each year. That is statitiscally so small as to be insignificant.
I thought there had been one or two pills ever on record that tested positive for heroin. Are you saying it's actually one or two pills per year that have tested positive for heroin???
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^^^ who knows? none of us have access to all the results of testing world wide. we don't have access to any of the tests that the australian authorities do, but they keep telling us they are finding pills with heroin in them. personally i wouldnt be suprised if there were a few pills each year in australia that tested positive for heroin, knowing of the australian scene. mind you i could also pretty much guarentee you wouldn't be seeing any lately in aus as there is a considerable drought of heroin right now...
i'm just saying that the percentage is incredibly small. and we all know why it is small (not cost effective, not particularly orally effective, etc)
bostonboi: the black reaction with Mecke is odd. opiates should] go greeny/blue with Mecke (just like MDxx). This is why I don't like Mecke as a primary test. Did you see any green?
[ 21 April 2002: Message edited by: johnboy ]
 
Ok boys and girls, here's something I found that may be a great help to you all. Straight from the U.S. Department of Justice the Color Test Reagents/Kits for Preliminary Identification of Drugs of Abuse. It's a great little report that lists a whole lot of different field testing reagents that law enforcement officials use, and more usefully the color those reagents change to when exposed to a multitude of drugs of abuse. Now it's a pdf file so make sure you got Acrobat. Hope this will help out in some way...
 
JB - there have really been pills tested positive for H? I knew Dancesafe had tested some as cocaine, I'd never heard of heroin in them though.
Is this just in Oz, or have they been found elsewhere?
Learn something new every day. ;)
 
Opiate reactions have been seen by myself, and other Australian testers. Extremely rarely but they have been seen. It could be other opiates, which have been verified by RCMP and DIMMS results, but Australian Police have said (to my face) that they have heroin results. They even qualified it by saying "very few, but we have seen them.
Like I said before this is probably a result of the Aus drug climate at the time, ie that heroin was plentiful and cheap, and many dodgy people were pressing pills here, but with the current drought of heroin it seems unlikely that anyone would be that stupid now. Mind you the new crops are due out of Afghanistan any day now...
 
yes of course i did. that pink looks like the colour i have seen from testing heroin, but it does seem to go very purple, making me wonder if there isn't also some MDxx in there. But then again the Mecke reaction is just plain strange...
will you be sending it to dancesafe?
[ 22 April 2002: Message edited by: johnboy ]
 
To be honest. I do not want to waste my money and I don't really want to mail anything like that. I already took them with my GF and we both seem to be ok. I had never been so messed up from taking E before. There were signs of the way I usually feel though. I am just very confused. I wish there was someone that saw this here and could perhaps give a better answer. I took some very clear, colorfull pictures. The weirdest thing to me, is that the Simon's didn't do anything.
 
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