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Ecstacy as speed?

Amphetamine and methamphetamine are in my opinion the worst drugs. The comedown is fucking brutal. And you don't really get high ( just really alert and hyper ) unless you shoot it! I prefer clean MDMA, because I've always liked hallucinogens like mushrooms. microdots, and good 'ol LSD
 
For what its worth OP I mostly agree with what you're saying. You have to understand if you come to Ecstasy Discussion claiming MDMA is worse for you than something else everyone here is going to jump down your throat about it.
 
I've done prescription speed, legal speed, and the (actually not intentional) crystal meth "bad" stuff: they aren't that different, especially once you build a tolerance to one and move on to another.

I don't think it's healthy to do amphetamines too often period, but MDMA is in it's own special category. I personally think that MDMA has the unique ability to make you a better, more emotionally healthy person if not abused, it creates a world of empathy that for me, has stayed with me long after I used it. I think psychedelics second to MDMA have an "enlightening" effect on peoples lives, and that's what to me, makes it a better drug for you than any form of speed.

...but as far as a party drug: hands down mephedrone IMO! Lots of energy without being tweaky, severely friendly, and music sounds as amazing as MDMA does on a good night. :)
 
he point I'm making here is that I feel like ALOT of what people do E for is the stimulant effects. The superhuman endurance, wakefulness, self-confidence, being able to out-talk any reasonable human being, even music appreciation and tactile sensations to a lesser degree, are all stimulant effects, and are really the most useful for partying. I'm not saying people don't take E for the empathogenic qualities, and have a damn good time as a result, but after going raving on pure MDMA, I realized it's way less of a party drug on it's own.
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I blame this on the fact that most people who eat E pills are infact eating speed bombs and probably have never had good MDMA. More than 50% of seized pills contain NO MDMA at all.

In my experience, I've had good MDMA a couple times, had decent MDMA/MDA mixture, and just plain shitty random "MDMA" from multiple sources, as well as mephedrone. I have to say that the pure MDMA and mephedrone are actually not that great for going out because you don't get crazy energy, you just feel amazing and want to bond with friends. With speed, all you want to do is dance dance dance dance!!
 
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